View Full Version : Stance coilovers in stock!!!!!
Endless Rotaries 06-23-2008, 02:30 PM Stance Finally has released a
COMPLETE TOP TO BOTTOM
MONOTUBE
15 way ADJUSTABLE
COILOVER
INDPENDENT RIDE HEIGHT ADJUSTMENT
One of the only coilovers that can get you SLAMMED while retaining suspension travel. 3" Drop shown below:
WE WILL LIKELY HAVE AN OPTION WITHIN 1 WEEK WHICH ALLOWS FOR A CLOSER TO STOCK RIDE HEIGHT AND LESS DUMPAGE, MAYBE 0.5" TO 2" RANGE.
UPDATES WILL COME SHORTLY.
Spring rates are 10kg/7kg
MSRP: $1495.00,
PM for Price
http://www.autornd.com/catalog/albums/Actual%20Product%20Pictures/Stance/RX8/TB_Stance%20RX8-1.JPG
http://www.autornd.com/catalog/albums/Actual%20Product%20Pictures/Stance/RX8/Stance%20RX8-2.JPG
http://www.autornd.com/catalog/albums/Actual%20Product%20Pictures/Stance/RX8/TB_Stance%20RX8-3.JPG
Rishie
Endless Rotaries 06-23-2008, 02:30 PM bump for stance.
Rishie
philsbluerx8 06-23-2008, 02:41 PM damn, thats a good looking coilover, i wish i hadnt bought my tein. and Sounds like a good price with good quality.
Endless Rotaries 06-23-2008, 02:59 PM Ya this is a ridiculous price for this coilover. There is no other coilover with these features in the price bracket.
FYI, stance has 1 year warranty. Offers full replacement parts.
We are stance's largest stocking distributor and for that reason they take care of my clients VERY VERY WELL.
Be confident that our account is handled with extreme care and you will be serviced with the utmost care.
Endless Rotaries 06-24-2008, 01:16 PM bump to get your stance on.....
Endless Rotaries 07-01-2008, 12:45 PM 2 sets in stock, NORCAL, ready to be installed on some lucky person's car.
Rishie
Damnit, these are the only coilovers I want, hopefully you still have that amazing price is 2 months when I can get my cash flow back to normal.
BUMP for an amazing price/product.
Endless Rotaries 07-01-2008, 01:47 PM Ya i doubt i can wait that long bro.
FYI, if interested please don't ask me how they are. That's the whole point of this deal, you tell me how they are so i can respond to client's question in the future.
Rishie
No problem, I'm still getting them one way or another even if I have to pay list price, I am sold.
FeelGuud 07-01-2008, 05:17 PM damn soo nice, if only i still had a job :(
Endless Rotaries 07-02-2008, 08:44 PM BOTH SPONSORSHIP SPOTS HAVE BEEN FILLED.
THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING AND I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR REVIEWS.
PLEASE EMAIL TO SALES@AUTORND.COM
Rishie
Endless Rotaries 07-03-2008, 08:32 PM I will continue accepting orders, please email or PM me.
Might be one left in stock.
Rishie
Angelo se3p 07-03-2008, 09:37 PM sorry to be bust on your thread,
NaarLeven 07-03-2008, 10:27 PM Don't be a tool Angelo.
Good looking set Rishie.
Angelo se3p 07-03-2008, 11:11 PM edited
NgoRX8 07-04-2008, 12:06 AM i would never get a megan product...
Endless Rotaries 07-04-2008, 01:08 AM Angelo, sorry but your posts have no place here so they've been booted.
At this point there's no data to even make that statement. Feel free to open a new discussion comparing coilovers and their values in the suspension section.
I'm looking for exactly that, a true experiential comparison between them. Side by side if you wish.
Rishie
JETS3T8 07-08-2008, 06:30 PM Just received the Stance coilovers and they'll be installed tomorrow. Once thing that threw me off was the shorter top bracket on the rears. After a quick call to Stance, they confirmed that these are in fact the new production brackets for the coilovers I received. The longer top rear brackets in the pictures posted by Rishie are the prototypes. Can't wait!
Here are the pics of the shorter top rear brackets:
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2581337010103083841jjMWFy?vhost=rides
Mazurfer 07-08-2008, 07:39 PM ^..........Links don't work!
JETS3T8 07-08-2008, 07:49 PM After you click on a link, click "Refresh"
Don't know why it works that way but it does.
Mazurfer 07-08-2008, 08:25 PM Here....fixed it for you. Pics are a little big, but oh well.
http://image55.webshots.com/55/3/37/1/2581337010103083841jjMWFy_fs.jpg
http://image60.webshots.com/660/8/63/4/2047863040103083841yIwLWQ_fs.jpg
Mr. Pockets 07-10-2008, 03:17 PM I couldn't get the above picture links to work at all.
Anyway, I received my coilovers today and I'll install them tonight. I'll probably drop the car very mildly at first, but I know I'm in for a lot of adjusting in the coming months so I'm sure it'll change.
NgoRX8 07-10-2008, 03:43 PM drop it like its hott and then take some pics :)
Mr. Pockets 07-10-2008, 05:17 PM I have a pretty steep driveway; I doubt I'll lower it that much. :)
lKoRTy 07-30-2008, 12:13 AM so.. any pics?
DXT-Motorsports 07-30-2008, 12:37 AM stance are pretty popular among the 240 crowd with good reviews
Endless Rotaries 07-30-2008, 01:51 PM The 2 gents are finishing up their installs by this weekend so we'll have photos on the car. We're going through and documenting ride height adjustability and all that good stuff.
Nick and Richie have been wonderful to work with. Epitome of sponsees.
Thanks, Rishie
JETS3T8 07-30-2008, 03:29 PM Here are some pics:
http://good-times.webshots.com/album/564784691XIJqmI?vhost=good-times
JETS3T8 07-30-2008, 11:13 PM Added one with the new wheels ;)
http://good-times.webshots.com/album/564784691XIJqmI?vhost=good-times
lKoRTy 07-31-2008, 12:13 AM wheels look sick. any more pics? lol
shaunv74 07-31-2008, 01:35 AM Prices and whitesheets on the coilovers?
snowflakes 07-31-2008, 01:52 AM so how do you think these Coilovers perform on track and courses???
hit it up~
PF-Racing 07-31-2008, 07:35 AM How is this compared to HKS Hipermax?
Mr. Pockets 07-31-2008, 10:09 AM so how do you think these Coilovers perform on track and courses???
hit it up~
I have an event this weekend, so I'll let you know. The car won't be corner-weighted yet, though. I'll get an alignment done tomorrow, but it's going to take a couple events to re-learn this car and dial in settings for the different surfaces we run on.
I drove the car around town last night and this morning, and I'm pretty happy with how it feels. I thought with such a high spring rate (560f, 390r) the car was going to feel way too stiff, but I think it's absolutely acceptable as a daily driver. The car reacts more quickly, but still has a good amount of roll. It feels accurate and communicative, but that's on the street.
This weekend will be interesting. I'll let you guys know how the car feels.
Endless Rotaries 07-31-2008, 01:55 PM Awesome Nick, gotta love the DOUBLE WISH/Multilink setups. They allow for such a greater ride quality than Macpherson dinosaur geometries.
SADLY WHITESHEETS/DYNO'S ARE NOT AVAILABLE AS YET. If you're that particular you might need to go with something like PENSKE, OHLINS, MOTON, ADVANCE DESIGN.....
If you're looking for a coilover with INSANE Value, this would probably fit the bill.
We're working on slight adjustments to the SUSPENSION THANKS TO NICK AND RICHIE'S SUGGESTIONS. I'll be sure to keep you updated, more should be landing next week.
Rishie
shaunv74 08-01-2008, 03:53 AM Awesome Nick, gotta love the DOUBLE WISH/Multilink setups. They allow for such a greater ride quality than Macpherson dinosaur geometries.
SADLY WHITESHEETS/DYNO'S ARE NOT AVAILABLE AS YET. If you're that particular you might need to go with something like PENSKE, OHLINS, MOTON, ADVANCE DESIGN.....
If you're looking for a coilover with INSANE Value, this would probably fit the bill.
We're working on slight adjustments to the SUSPENSION THANKS TO NICK AND RICHIE'S SUGGESTIONS. I'll be sure to keep you updated, more should be landing next week.
Rishie
I'd just like to know spring rates, options, adjustability options, rebuild warranty, general design of shocks and how the height adjustment is handled. I'm making the age old mistake of upgrading my setup a little bit at a time and spending more money than if I had just gotten the best setup I could afford to begin with.:lol:
Can you adjust jounce and rebound separately? When you adjust the ride height does it change the amount of spring travel you have or does it have a way to keep it constant? What is the warranty on the shocks if they break? Are they rebuildable? Is there a remote mounted motor control option like the Sustec or Tien EDFC?
A shock dyno would definitely be cool. I don't think I would have bought the Konis if I had seen the shock dyno first. They work well but I now know that I'd like to have jounce and rebound adjustable separately.:)
Endless Rotaries 08-01-2008, 02:07 PM 10k/7k spring rates
Monotube damper
Simultaneous Rebound and Compression adjustment, not independent.
Ride height adjusted from lower bracket, will not lose suspension stroke when lowering.
Servicability/Replacement dampers, even custom valved dampers are available. Replacements in US, Custom valving ordered from Japan at addt'l costs.
Currently there are no "EDFC" options available for Stance.
More info can be found here:
http://www.stance-usa.com/sus/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=29&Itemid=42
There are photos of the RX8 coils on the first page of this thread.
Rishie
Mr. Pockets 08-01-2008, 05:27 PM I don't yet have too much to add to what I've said already about the coilovers themselves, but I do want to praise Stance for their support.
The coilovers, as they were shipped to me, did not fit the car. The lower bracket had a bushing pressed into it that was too small to fit over the spindle on the car. Stance made new parts and shipped them to me. It took awhile, because the parts had to come from Japan, but the parts came with a nice little gift - steel cable remote adjusters that clamp onto the knob on top of the strut. The way it installs into the RX-8, that knob is inaccessible and these cables solve that problem. I wasn't expecting these adjusters (I had zip-tied fuel hose to the knobs to do the same thing, but these are way cooler), so they were a really nice surprise.
After I installed the coilovers this week, I found that the rears had another problem - at their max ride height, they dropped the rear of the car by about two inches. My tires rubbed (until I removed some of the plastic liner in each well) and I can't corner-weight the car like that.
I called Stance yesterday after noon, and they said they'd send longer springs to fix the problem, pronto. They weren't kidding, because the springs just got here. Now, I only live a couple hours away and they did send them FedEx Ground, but obviously they got them out the door within hours. I think that's outstanding service.
I just wanted to write about the excellent support Stance has provided for their product. Yes, the product had problems out of the box, but they've handled those problems very well and made sure I was a happy customer. That's a rare thing these days.
shaunv74 08-01-2008, 10:20 PM 10k/7k spring rates
Monotube damper
Simultaneous Rebound and Compression adjustment, not independent.
Ride height adjusted from lower bracket, will not lose suspension stroke when lowering.
Servicability/Replacement dampers, even custom valved dampers are available. Replacements in US, Custom valving ordered from Japan at addt'l costs.
Currently there are no "EDFC" options available for Stance.
More info can be found here:
http://www.stance-usa.com/sus/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=29&Itemid=42
There are photos of the RX8 coils on the first page of this thread.
Rishie
Thanks for the info Rishie!
shaunv74 08-01-2008, 10:25 PM I don't yet have too much to add to what I've said already about the coilovers themselves, but I do want to praise Stance for their support.
The coilovers, as they were shipped to me, did not fit the car. The lower bracket had a bushing pressed into it that was too small to fit over the spindle on the car. Stance made new parts and shipped them to me. It took awhile, because the parts had to come from Japan, but the parts came with a nice little gift - steel cable remote adjusters that clamp onto the knob on top of the strut. The way it installs into the RX-8, that knob is inaccessible and these cables solve that problem. I wasn't expecting these adjusters (I had zip-tied fuel hose to the knobs to do the same thing, but these are way cooler), so they were a really nice surprise.
After I installed the coilovers this week, I found that the rears had another problem - at their max ride height, they dropped the rear of the car by about two inches. My tires rubbed (until I removed some of the plastic liner in each well) and I can't corner-weight the car like that.
I called Stance yesterday after noon, and they said they'd send longer springs to fix the problem, pronto. They weren't kidding, because the springs just got here. Now, I only live a couple hours away and they did send them FedEx Ground, but obviously they got them out the door within hours. I think that's outstanding service.
I just wanted to write about the excellent support Stance has provided for their product. Yes, the product had problems out of the box, but they've handled those problems very well and made sure I was a happy customer. That's a rare thing these days.
Thanks for posting up your information. Will they be modifying their standard RX8 package with the changes you had to make?
Endless Rotaries 08-02-2008, 02:48 AM Anytime shaunv.
YES MOST DEFINITELY. THIS SPONSORSHIP MOST DEFINITELY WORKED ITS PURPOSE WONDERFULLY. CAN'T THANK THE GUYS ENOUGH.
CURRENT UPDATES I'M GOING TO PACKAGE TOGETHER BASED ON YOUR DESIRES:
#1. Lower Bracket is not an issue, minor mistake on initial production run.
As for options, Nick and Richie are solely to thank for this very important option.
Option 1. Approx range to be determined but I assume about 0.5" to 2" drop
Option 2. MAX DUMPAGE, range probably from 2" to 3.5" drop i'm estimating.
You will want to emphasize if you want CONSERVATIVE OR AGRESSIVE "STANCE".
Everything else should be gravy.
I am accepting orders but pickings are slim right now. We're waiting for a new shipment as well as more updates from Nick and Richie.
I DO WANT TO EMPHASIZE THIS IS WHY WE SUPPORT THEIR PRODUCT SO EMPHATICALLY.
***********VALUE WITH GREAT SERVICE IS INVALUABLE*********
STANCE TRULY STANDS BEHIND THE REPUTATION OF THEIR PRODUCT.
Sorry for the caps, just have to emphasiZE.
Mr. Pockets 08-06-2008, 09:19 AM Here's a picture of the car as it sits now. The front and rear are both lowered about an inch. I don't think I can realistically go any lower in the front, but I could possibly get it about a half-inch lower in the rear. Remember I am setting the car up for 275/40-17s (pictured), so I think it's probably possible to go lower on stock tires.
It is on the taller rear springs (option #1 in Rishie's above post), and I have plenty of room for adjustment up or down.
I autocrossed the car both Saturday and Sunday. On the very smooth surface we ran on I was able to set the car up very well, but it required using certain settings at their limits, so I'm concerned about rougher surfaces. I'm talking with Stance right now and I'll share what we come up with.
Endless Rotaries 08-06-2008, 11:58 AM That looks like a good ride height for 17's to me.
Looks great Nick. Let me know what you all are brewing up.
Do you know how much further UP you can go front or rear?
Thanks,
Rishie
Mr. Pockets 08-06-2008, 02:17 PM That looks like a good ride height for 17's to me.
Looks great Nick. Let me know what you all are brewing up.
Do you know how much further UP you can go front or rear?
Thanks,
Rishie
I could go at least an inch higher in the front if I needed to. In the rear, I'm not certain. I don't think I measured. I would guess it's a half an inch to an inch.
Mr. Pockets 08-18-2008, 03:32 PM I just wanted to post a quick update. I've done four days of competition in the car on the Stance coilovers at this point, but the car isn't as predictable or balanced as I'd like it to be. Stance has been fantastic to work with and we're trying to get it all figured out. When I'm comfortable with my setup, I'll let everybody know what it is.
Mr. Pockets 08-27-2008, 11:29 AM Another quick update. After following Stance's advice on tire pressures and alignment settings, the rear of the car is still the limiting factor. I don't have a lot of confidence under braking and I feel like I can't get on the power quickly enough. The front, I believe, still has a ton of grip.
Stance sent me softer (6k) rear springs. Hopefully that calms the rear of the car down.
As I said, the front feels great. I thought the high spring rate would be too much, but I'm really happy with how that end of the car feels.
I have an event this weekend, and it's on new (completed in the past few weeks) asphalt. I'll post an update next week with my impressions.
swoope 08-28-2008, 02:34 AM Another quick update. After following Stance's advice on tire pressures and alignment settings, the rear of the car is still the limiting factor. I don't have a lot of confidence under braking and I feel like I can't get on the power quickly enough. The front, I believe, still has a ton of grip.
Stance sent me softer (6k) rear springs. Hopefully that calms the rear of the car down.
As I said, the front feels great. I thought the high spring rate would be too much, but I'm really happy with how that end of the car feels.
I have an event this weekend, and it's on new (completed in the past few weeks) asphalt. I'll post an update next week with my impressions.
thanks for the follow ups! :)
beers :beer:
DOMINION 08-28-2008, 03:45 AM Here's a picture of the car as it sits now. The front and rear are both lowered about an inch. I don't think I can realistically go any lower in the front, but I could possibly get it about a half-inch lower in the rear. Remember I am setting the car up for 275/40-17s (pictured), so I think it's probably possible to go lower on stock tires.
It is on the taller rear springs (option #1 in Rishie's above post), and I have plenty of room for adjustment up or down.
I autocrossed the car both Saturday and Sunday. On the very smooth surface we ran on I was able to set the car up very well, but it required using certain settings at their limits, so I'm concerned about rougher surfaces. I'm talking with Stance right now and I'll share what we come up with.
Dude is that a dent in your door?! :eyetwitch Oh car looks good :)
Mr. Pockets 08-28-2008, 09:08 AM Dude is that a dent in your door?! :eyetwitch Oh car looks good :)
There are a couple dents in the door, yeah. There's that weird one right in the middle and then the trailing edge is bent, like the previous owner doored a brick wall.
At least he didn't drive it much...the car only has 29k on it. :p
Mr. Pockets 09-02-2008, 12:40 PM Okay, so we had another two-day event over the weekend. The course ran over three different types of asphalt, two of them being pretty new and grippy and the third being old, sealed and covered in oil stains. Slippery, in other words. Also, there were a lot of obstacles to hit, so I approached the weekend much more cautiously than I normally would. We ran closer to curbs and light poles than I would really prefer.
In short, the softer (6k) springs transformed the car. It went from unpredictably tail-happy to much more neutral. I was able to push the car like I haven't before because I wasn't trying to keep it from killing me. I could get it to rotate very nicely under hard braking, slide gently on higher-speed transitions and get on the throttle faster than before. It was a lot of fun. I was more competitive than I have been so far this season, and I still felt like I could go much faster after I get used to the car.
I think the real test is going to be in about two weeks, when we go back to the site I first ran the coilovers on. The car felt pretty good there on the second day last time, but was still difficult.
Again, Stance has been great to work with.
swoope 09-03-2008, 12:54 AM what are the #s on the rear springs?
i have felt the pain you talk about. but for different reasons! :)
beers :beer:
Mr. Pockets 09-03-2008, 08:06 AM what are the #s on the rear springs?
i have felt the pain you talk about. but for different reasons! :)
beers :beer:
As I said, the rears are 6kg/mm. The fronts are still 10kg/mm.
Endless Rotaries 09-03-2008, 02:07 PM Awesome update.
Can you tell us what alignment settings you're running Nick?
Rishie
Mr. Pockets 09-03-2008, 02:23 PM I have -2deg camber up front, -1.5 in the rear. Toe is 1/8in out on the front, 1/8in in on the rear. Caster is 6deg, I believe.
The toe-in on the rear was especially important with the 7k springs. If I find that the car doesn't rotate as well on concrete as it did on asphalt, I'll try setting the rear to zero toe.
Installing the coilovers and lowering the car allowed me a much greater range of camber adjustment. Honestly, I'm not certain what the front camber was set to before because I asked the shop for 'maximum,' and they didn't give me a print-out. That was the first and only time I went there. After the coilovers, the pre-alignment check said my fronts were set to -2.5. As I said above, I have that dialed back to 2.0 now.
Mr. Pockets 09-07-2008, 01:17 PM So, I took the car out of town with the coilovers for the first time this weekend. Since I installed them, the car has only been about 45min. outside of the city, and that was on a smooth freeway.
Honestly, I'd call the coilovers 'annoying' on a rough freeway. My wife, however, would call them 'intolerable.' On smooth, asphalt freeway there's no problem. On concrete freeways, you'll feel every seam. If the freeway is old and heaved at all, your wheels are going to feel square.
Me, I'll live with it. My wife says this is the last time we're taking my car on a long trip. :p
For some people the ride might be compromised too much. I don't put a ton of miles on my car and I'll swap the stock parts back in for winter anyway.
Daemos 09-07-2008, 04:25 PM so...how would these compare to the KW varient 3s on performance? How do they measure up on shock dynos?
Not to be a kill joy or anything, there are there are other coilover manufactures on the market that advertise tons of features for a lower price set, but in the end they are of lower quality, the shocks vary greatly in force, and they're not even matched right. And in the end even though the car felt more 'planted' due to the stiffer ride, it actually performed worse overall.
Endless Rotaries 09-07-2008, 05:33 PM You get what you pay for. The KW v3's are independent bound and rebound.
If you're on a budget but require certain adjustability then the Stance might be your best value but don't expect to get the best of both worlds, as nick stated.
Good for track, street debatable.
Rishie
shaunv74 09-07-2008, 06:48 PM I have -2deg camber up front, -1.5 in the rear. Toe is 1/8in out on the front, 1/8in in on the rear. Caster is 6deg, I believe.
Installing the coilovers and lowering the car allowed me a much greater range of camber adjustment. Honestly, I'm not certain what the front camber was set to before because I asked the shop for 'maximum,' and they didn't give me a print-out.
For comparison: With stock springs I can only get 0.9 degrees of camber in the front.
Mr. Pockets 09-08-2008, 08:14 AM so...how would these compare to the KW varient 3s on performance? How do they measure up on shock dynos?
Not to be a kill joy or anything, there are there are other coilover manufactures on the market that advertise tons of features for a lower price set, but in the end they are of lower quality, the shocks vary greatly in force, and they're not even matched right. And in the end even though the car felt more 'planted' due to the stiffer ride, it actually performed worse overall.
I've never even seen a shock dyno, so I don't know what these would look like. I've also never tried the KW V3s. I intended to get those, but with the exchange rate they didn't make a lot of sense any more. These were such a good deal I had to try them out and I'm very happy with my decision. I can't imagine with the aforementioned 'lower priced sets' that you'll get anywhere near the support I have from Stance.
These are an awfully good bang for the buck, in my opinion.
Just ask for the longer, softer rear springs. ;) More on that after this weekend.
Mr. Pockets 09-08-2008, 08:15 AM For comparison: With stock springs I can only get 0.9 degrees of camber in the front.
The lowering alone gets you that, but the Stance coilovers have the advantage over a fixed spring/damper setup in that they retain travel when adjusted lower.
imput1234 09-08-2008, 10:15 AM For comparison: With stock springs I can only get 0.9 degrees of camber in the front.
? My front camber was over -1 with stock spring
Mr. Pockets 09-16-2008, 09:27 AM Over the weekend we returned to the first surface I ran the Stance coilovers on. As it did on the asphalt a couple weeks ago, the car felt very neutral and predictable.
At this point it feels like the car has developed well and next season I can focus on learning to drive it quickly while making the smaller changes I'm allowed in ST.
Thanks to Stance for their support and to Rishie for the great deal. Both were a pleasure to work with.
I'm including two pictures of my car. One is of another driver who, on a fun run, ended up in a mad-tight JDM yo drift.
PeeTom 10-17-2008, 04:58 AM I will be joining the stance clan as soon as mine arrive!
Endless Rotaries 10-17-2008, 02:04 PM They go out today sir.
PeeTom 10-17-2008, 07:40 PM Thanks Rishie!
Mr. Pockets 10-23-2008, 02:12 PM Thanks Rishie!
Sorry, I didn't notice your post until now.
If you have any questions about installing these, shoot me a PM. I'd be glad to help. :)
Mr. Pockets 10-28-2008, 09:29 AM I took the Stance coilovers off my car and put the stock parts back on over the weekend. Winter is coming, and I don't want to get the Stance parts all gummed up with salt. The car doesn't feel as squishy as I thought it would, but it's definitely taller. :)
The rears took me about two hours to swap, and the fronts about 45min. I'm sure I could get the whole process down to about two hours.
I wanted to make a final note for the season, though. We had a two-day event last weekend. The car still felt pretty good, but my tires were uncooperative. I think they've had enough.
Since I've had the Stance logo on the car at events, I've had questions about them, but the really cool thing is that I meet other people who have also received great support from Stance.
These guys really support their customers. That's fantastic and rare.
I didn't achieve what I wanted to this season, but I usually set my sights pretty high. Next season I'll have the Stance coilovers back on, with a good baseline setup I didn't have at the beginning of this year. I'll have narrower tires in STX, but they'll be better than the Azenis I used this year. I look forward to working with Stance, and I will keep everybody updated on any setup changes they recommend for the new tires.
imput1234 10-31-2008, 04:00 PM Can you change the ride height on the Stance without affecting preload?
Mr. Pockets 11-03-2008, 09:47 AM Can you change the ride height on the Stance without affecting preload?
Yes. The ride height adjustment is separate from the spring perches on both the fronts and rears.
RotaryDrift 12-02-2008, 09:50 PM I know I'm probably too late.... but DO YOU HAVE ANY OF THESE LEFT?!
Thanks
TopGear8 12-02-2008, 10:21 PM If you still have them, Send me a PM for the price. Thanks :)
Endless Rotaries 12-05-2008, 06:23 PM Couple sets in stock. PM me for best price.
Rishie
PF-Racing 01-07-2009, 07:52 PM You got pm, Rishie
Endless Rotaries 01-07-2009, 09:08 PM PM replied Christian,
Sorry i been on holiday for past 3 weeks. i'll be back in my southern Cali warehouse early next week. That's where your paperwork is.
Rishie
trustbuddy 01-28-2009, 12:36 PM do stance offer these in 6k rear springs like Mr. Pockets experimented? or are only 7k's offered right now?
TopGear8 01-28-2009, 01:07 PM ^They will give you the 6K springs in the back if you request it. Just let them know what you want your set up to be.
Endless Rotaries 01-28-2009, 03:15 PM Yes they can be but you must specify this when you order.
We have to stay within 2-3kg/mm of the existing standard spring rates.
Rishie
Mr. Pockets 01-29-2009, 09:37 AM I highly recommend the 6k springs.
I may try one step lower, bringing them to 9k front, 5k rear, just for grins.
Fate710 04-20-2009, 02:09 PM Could they offer the 6K springs on the "aggressive" setup coilovers?
Endless Rotaries 04-20-2009, 10:19 PM Yes we can do that.
Rishie
Mr. Pockets 06-07-2009, 07:32 PM I haven't posted in here in awhile, but I think it's time I did. :)
I've been to four events so far this season. In the first event, I was second overall on index and since then I've taken FTDI at every one.
Yesterday we had an event with 84 total drivers. I was the fastest car on street tires, and only about a half-second off the fastest car with fenders, which was on race tires.
I haven't made many adjustments to the coilovers since last season. I lowered the rear slightly, since I am running narrower tires, but other than that my settings are the same.
I'll probably post more in the STX thread on the competition forum, but I wanted to say a big 'thank you' to Rishie and Stance! I've never done so well, and the support they gave me last season laid the foundation for my success so far this year.
Endless Rotaries 06-08-2009, 12:28 PM That is a phenomenal update and congrats. Keep up the good driving.
thanks, Rishie
JETS3T8 06-08-2009, 04:56 PM I haven't posted in here in awhile, but I think it's time I did. :)
I've been to four events so far this season. In the first event, I was second overall on index and since then I've taken FTDI at every one.
Yesterday we had an event with 84 total drivers. I was the fastest car on street tires, and only about a half-second off the fastest car with fenders, which was on race tires.
I haven't made many adjustments to the coilovers since last season. I lowered the rear slightly, since I am running narrower tires, but other than that my settings are the same.
I'll probably post more in the STX thread on the competition forum, but I wanted to say a big 'thank you' to Rishie and Stance! I've never done so well, and the support they gave me last season laid the foundation for my success so far this year.
^
+1
Though I haven't actually tracked my car since installing the coilovers, I have driven it quite a few thousand miles (+10,000). And I am 100% satisfied. I can't even tell you how many people have been impressed with the "Stance" of the car as well as the ride quality. Big ups to Stance and Rishie!
<----------Satisfied customer
Zelse 06-08-2009, 06:37 PM It's funny how I keep hearing everyone wanting 6k rear. A lot of the cars I drive with lower spring rates, I don't really enjoy that much and I feel like the feedback is awkward, yet with my 10k and 7k, it feels excellent, and even a national champ or two that have driven my car agree. Interesting to always hear that though. I'm also running 8 clicks from soft. But regardless, very happy with these coilovers, and highly recommend to anyone. People love watching my car take slaloms and offsets because the car is already settled, and it just moves like one of those dogs in a dog show going between cones. :D
THmotorsports.com 06-11-2009, 11:59 PM It's funny how I keep hearing everyone wanting 6k rear. A lot of the cars I drive with lower spring rates, I don't really enjoy that much and I feel like the feedback is awkward, yet with my 10k and 7k, it feels excellent, and even a national champ or two that have driven my car agree. Interesting to always hear that though. I'm also running 8 clicks from soft. But regardless, very happy with these coilovers, and highly recommend to anyone. People love watching my car take slaloms and offsets because the car is already settled, and it just moves like one of those dogs in a dog show going between cones. :D
I switched around and stick with my 10K/7K as well....
I switched out to the 200mm rear spring instead of the 175mm spring though.
anyone do that??
what do you run Rishie??
did you get our message earlier today BTW??
Adam
THM
Endless Rotaries 06-12-2009, 01:09 AM I was working on a car all day today so didn't get a chance to check the vm, i'll do that right now. Please leave the messages on 2#, wholesale line.
I traded in my RX8 a year ago. I was running the Endless/Zeal combo on my 8 when I had it.
Rishie
trustbuddy 06-12-2009, 01:20 AM I switched around and stick with my 10K/7K as well....
I switched out to the 200mm rear spring instead of the 175mm spring though.
anyone do that??
what do you run Rishie??
did you get our message earlier today BTW??
Adam
THM
i'm fairly happy with my 10k/6k setup, but from what you and zelse say, i think I might try the 7k springs in the rear as well.
they are only what...$40???
Endless Rotaries 07-03-2009, 09:52 PM Alright so I made a video of how to setup the REAR RX8 coilovers. They have an unconventional design so I took the initiative to give you the basics.
Step 1: Reset all spring preloads
Step 2: Install on car
Step 3: Put car on ground and take baseline measurements
Step 4: Determine where you want the car to sit.
i.e. If car is ground to fender at 25" and you want 26", please note the 1" Difference or whatever the delta is on each corner.
Step 5: Put car back in air. Adjust front coilover lower brackets with their respective "delta" value. Meaning up or down 1", whichever direction. Since we're raising the car the bracket goes in a direction to "lengthen" the unit.
VIDEO WILL HELP YOU HERE" STEP 6
Step 6: REAR COILS: remove lower bolt so that the coilover has some room to drop the spring. you might need to remove a suspension arm to gain clearance. Remove spring, then loosen the small inner collar that remains so you can adjust the ride height/inner tube by 1".
Step 7: Once bracket is position and locked into place you can install the spring, washer, spring perch, and locking collar. Add the preload back to the spring.
HERE'S THE PROBLEM PEOPLE HAD AND NOW YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO VISUALIZE IT:
1. WHEN YOU RAISE OR LENGTHEN THE REAR DAMPER, IT REMOVES PRELOAD FROM THE SPRING SO YOU NEED TO ADD PRELOAD BACK TO IT.
2. WHEN YOU LOWER OR SHORTEN THE REAR DAMPER, IT ADDS PRELOAD TO THE SPRING SO YOU NEED TO LOOSEN IT BACK TO NORMAL PRELOAD.
BY RULE OF THUMB FOR THE REAR YOU SHOULD ALWAYS REMOVE PRELOAD OR SPRING ALTOGETHER BEFORE MAKING THE HEIGHT ADJUSTMENTS. THEN PUT THE SPRING BACK OR ADD PRELOAD BACK AFTERWARDS.
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Rishie
Endless Rotaries 11-11-2009, 04:25 PM Alright guys so more are coming in 3-4 weeks. PM me if you're interested in your Xmas special.
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Endless Rotaries 12-09-2009, 01:30 AM Backordered until january 2010.
Place your deposits now. Very limited quantity available.
Rishie
Endless Rotaries 03-03-2010, 03:31 PM IN STOCK LIMITED QTY.
Hit me up.
Vlaze 03-03-2010, 04:44 PM hrm...
Endless Rotaries 03-03-2010, 11:11 PM In stock.
Vlaze 03-14-2010, 11:00 PM Rishie, you need to clear out your msg box, it's full.
On a separate note, I got the coilovers but there is no adjuster cables with them for adjusting the rears. There is also no information whatsoever included in regards to installation, or instructions for them. Can you look into getting these out? Thanks.
Endless Rotaries 03-15-2010, 01:41 AM Vlaze please send me an email sales@autornd.com with this information. As for instructions, hehe, that's a good one. I think you'll need to simply use my "preload" and ride hight training video along with some good ol' common sense.
I will definitely get some cables sent out to you BUT PLEASE EMAIL ME SO I CAN FORWARD TO STANCE. This happened on another order as well.
Thanks, Rishie
Endless Rotaries 03-15-2010, 01:42 AM PM box is clear for now.
Mr. Pockets 03-15-2010, 10:51 AM Rishie, you need to clear out your msg box, it's full.
On a separate note, I got the coilovers but there is no adjuster cables with them for adjusting the rears. There is also no information whatsoever included in regards to installation, or instructions for them. Can you look into getting these out? Thanks.
I just reinstalled my Stance coilovers last week, in preparation for this season. Since the process is relatively fresh in my mind, I'll list the steps I follow.
Rear:
1. Disconnect headlight leveling sensor (may not be present on your car) from lower control arm.
2. Disconnect rear swaybar endlinks.
3. Remove inboard bolts for lower control arms (the ones you just disconnected the swaybar from).
4. Remove trunk lining.
5. Remove middle strut hardware (two nuts accessible from inside the trunk, one bolt from outside the car)
6. Remove upper strut bolts (way at the top of the strut, accesible from inside the trunk).
7. Remove stock coilover.
8. Install Stance coilover.
9. Reassemble.
Front:
1. Remove strut brace.
2. Disconnect swaybar endlinks.
3. Remove inboard bolts from upper wishbone.
4. Remove upper strut mounting hardware (3 nuts and a plate).
5. Install Stance coilover.
6. Reassemble.
I'm certain I forgot one or two steps in there. You may find that you need to remove more hardware to wrestle the stock coilovers out and the new ones in. The more I do it, the less I remove.
The process takes me under three hours these days; the rears take me about an hour and a half and the fronts about 45min. It's more difficult to get the stock coilovers back in, I find.
REMEMBER TO SUPPORT THE CAR SECURELY ON JACK STANDS, and follow my directions at your own risk.
By the way, I won my local autocross championship last season. I absolutely destroyed everybody locally. I attempted my first two national-level events and did alright, finishing in the top half in both. Thanks again to Rishie and Stance. I look forward to building on what I learned last season.
Vlaze 03-15-2010, 11:01 AM ^ I read up on your comments regarding your experience with Stance which was part of my motivation getting them myself, good stuff. I figured there wasn't going to be step by step installation instructions and with what both you and Rishie already have provided it's more than sufficient.
However I did read there was some information along with them in regards to what changes in the dampening per adjustment on the shocks and so forth, basic stuff I thought should of been included with any typical adjustable shock.
Mr. Pockets 03-15-2010, 01:34 PM I couldn't tell you what's 'typical.' The only adjustable dampers I've bought are these and the set of Koni Sports I put on my MR2. Maybe you're more familiar with adjustable suspension parts than I am, but neither came with any directions other than 'turn this way for stiff and that way for soft.'
If it's advice you're looking for, I can offer you this. I have mine set very soft in the adjustment range. The fronts are set to full soft and the rears are two clicks up from there. Honestly, if I could set the fronts a little softer than that, even, I would.
Fate710 03-24-2010, 06:47 PM Rishie are these still like 2 months out? Checked with a friend back home who is a dealer and he said they are 2 months out. Just tryin to plan this stuff out
Endless Rotaries 03-24-2010, 07:00 PM GOT 5 SETS IN STOCK.
Have your buddy contact me to setup a dealer account.
Otherwise PM and i'll quote you. It's possible your friend might give you a better deal but I have ALL THE RX8 INVENTORY for Stance so NOBODY HAS IT.
Thanks, Rishie
ZumnRx8 03-24-2010, 07:04 PM Hey RISHIE PM me on pricing... Im in need of a drop with the new wheels i am getting on Friday and im at 75k Mileage, its suggested to replace ur shocks at 50k... so I think its about that time. Thanks.
Endless Rotaries 03-24-2010, 07:21 PM Aw damn I just got back from OC last night. Arghhh.
Well your price will include shipping and sales tax FYI.
Thanks, Rishie
AWJay 03-28-2010, 02:12 AM Do you still have these?
how much shipped to 96818?
-thx
Endless Rotaries 03-28-2010, 02:29 AM Yes I do, sending you PM now. Shipping to HI is bank though.
There's 3 sets left.
Rishie
endowdly 04-17-2010, 12:06 PM Hey Rishie, long time, man. Been busy doing my thing in the Army. I have one last course here to attend before I PCS to Fort Drum; when I finish here at the end of the month I was thinking about placing an order for a set in the beginning of May. Realize that you'll probably be out of your current stock, but I'll place the order and wait. Just a heads up!
Ryan
cooldriver88 05-04-2010, 06:05 AM sent you a PM
Endless Rotaries 05-10-2010, 06:41 PM I've still got them in stock. If you're local come through and grab em. I can also hook you up with alignment or whatever you need.
Rishie
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