View Full Version : Side-exit exhaust ideas...


secret_squirrel
05-16-2008, 04:58 AM
I have been recently toying with the notion of a side-exit exhaust that could terminate in front of the passenger side rear tire. For two reasons...
1. I love the sound of the rotary exhaust when "un-corked". I'm not saying I would "straight-pipe" from the cat out though. (That would be horribly loud.)
2. I have yet to see it.(Possibly for a reason.)

Anyone having toyed with the same notion- I'm open for opinions, ideas, constructive criticisms, etc... I'm not even sure if there's room enough between the cat and where the pipe would have to bend out to fit a muffler, resonator, or combo. Just a little background- I'm currently deployed to the desert and am no-where near my car to look for myself. :banghead: In any event, I won't even be attempting this until October so don't hold your breath on any attempted installs. Thanks in advance for any inputs.

importshowoff84
05-16-2008, 06:58 AM
i would think it would look a lil weird on the 8. IMO

r0tor
05-16-2008, 07:26 AM
I always thought it would be cool if the exhaust would exit through a cutout in the MS sideskirts...

tubingchamp
05-16-2008, 12:14 PM
But just like the SRT10 Viper, it would melt the hell (and/or burn the paint) off of the side of the car if you did that. Coming out of the wheelwell may be ABIT safer, but there are risks of rubbing... Depending where your sticking it out/how much space you're working with/the size of the pipes.. Just my two cents. Would be sweet though :).

secret_squirrel
05-16-2008, 12:48 PM
Dually noted. I was thinking about midway of the aero-package accent. Maybe make a half-circle notch in the "accent" about an inch tall, so that the pipe could sit high enough up for clearance issues but low enough to not mess with the paint too much. Oh.....who am I kidding. If people's catback tips are melting bumper shrouds in the back, it would disentegrate my paint being that much closer to the front. I can dream though. If nothing else it would be a short catback to annoy the neighbors(and attract all cops and ricers in a two mile radius).

tajabaho1
05-16-2008, 12:59 PM
^ you're late

I'm already doing that

attracting cops and ricers that is

tubingchamp
05-16-2008, 01:08 PM
Although, You could cut out a metal piece to act as a "heat shield" and protect your paint.. and only leave the tips sticking out a BIT from the side..

secret_squirrel
05-17-2008, 12:27 AM
Although, You could cut out a metal piece to act as a "heat shield" and protect your paint.. and only leave the tips sticking out a BIT from the side..

This has crossed my mind. Heat shield could be fabbed well enough it could almost mimic the exhaust finishers for the bumper.

2tone
05-17-2008, 12:18 PM
I always thought it would be cool if the exhaust would exit through a cutout in the MS sideskirts...

YES! i've always thought that would look wicked. except i thought the autobahn sides b/c they seem to flare out a little bit at the back end, maybe allowing to more room to cut out and fit.

i also thought it would be bad ass to cut out the rotor shape in the side skirts and have that be where the exhaust goes - then use the rear oem rotary accent as an exhaust finisher. i think all that combined would be a really nice, but subtle look. i know someone makes rotary shaped exhaust tips now, but they're expensive!

anyway, if there's room down there for it, i think it'd be bad ass - i'd try it in a heartbeat if i had the mula.

dillsrotary
05-17-2008, 04:46 PM
It would probably be easier to exit via the passenger side since the exhaust begins on that side.

BigRed
05-17-2008, 06:16 PM
why dont you make use of the fender vents and make them exhaust vents :)

2tone
05-17-2008, 08:21 PM
why dont you make use of the fender vents and make them exhaust vents :)

ha ha, awesome

LambertRX8
05-17-2008, 08:31 PM
I too have been toying with the idea and was going to go to a custom shop and get them to design it. I was thinking of flat tips that would be 8"-12" in length and have them on both sides of the car.

secret_squirrel
05-18-2008, 04:03 AM
why dont you make use of the fender vents and make them exhaust vents :)

I thought about that, but I like rolling down my windows from time to time. :lol2:

kersh4w
05-18-2008, 10:08 AM
afaik, this is NOT street legal.

TeamRX8
05-19-2008, 12:56 AM
there's not enough clearance, exit dumb idea stage right ...

secret_squirrel
05-19-2008, 10:59 AM
there's not enough clearance, exit dumb idea stage right ... There's no such thing as a dumb idea, just dumb people....oh, wait....ahhh ^#$%! On a serious note, thanks for the input. After talking to a few friends and researching, I'm realizing there is not enough distance between where the catalytic converter ends and the rear axle to allow for the proper length muffler/resonator combo required to drive comfortably- meaning an "all-out race" pipe. Which the latter is more apt to be the primary purpose of this project's intent. For DD I will probably be buying a normal catback like the everyone else, but for fun this is just a side project. Thanks again for input everyone.

secret_squirrel
05-19-2008, 11:02 AM
afaik, this is NOT street legal.
I live in southwest Missouri. No emmissions, a joke of an inspection process, and everyone is related to the cops anyway. :lol:

kersh4w
05-19-2008, 03:52 PM
has nothing to do with emissions. its simply not legal to have side exhausts.

afaik.

tubingchamp
05-19-2008, 10:47 PM
What about the SRT10? (viper) It has side exiting exhausts.

secret_squirrel
05-20-2008, 12:29 AM
has nothing to do with emissions. its simply not legal to have side exhausts.

afaik.
Is this a Maryland law? or federal? Just wondering who told you this. Thanks for clarifying.

chickenwafer
05-20-2008, 12:34 AM
As others point out already, there wouldn't enough ground clearance. The stock exhaust is tucked up in the underbody of the car, routing to the side would mean it would run under the floor and be the lowest point on the car by a mile.

LambertRX8
06-03-2008, 07:55 PM
They have side exhaust on the Grand-Am Series RX8 cars.

OSSHWA
12-29-2009, 11:23 PM
Sorry to bring a thread back from the dead, but I am currently considering doing a side exit exhaust myself. W/o the rear spats, I feel having a rectangular tip on the driver side (or the passenger side if its easier) in front of the rear tire would look really good. Keep in mind the car will be slammed, which will mean the tip will damn near sit on the ground (all part of the stance/hellaflush plan though). The pic below is a good example of what i'm talking about and actually helped influence the idea.

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo9/OSSHWA/vdub_2.jpg

nycgps
12-29-2009, 11:56 PM
Not sure about VA but, Im sure if I do that in NYC, Cops will want to say Hi to me every other block.

Not to mention, why would I want the exhaust flow to have an "L" shape to it? I want it to be as straight out as possible.

josuar88
12-30-2009, 12:17 AM
Maybe have the exhaust exit out from behind the tire ? I know probably to far back.

OSSHWA
12-30-2009, 12:22 AM
Maybe have the exhaust exit out from behind the tire ? I know probably to far back.

I wanna have it exit in front of the back tire. Probably the passenger side b/c the exhaust starts on that side.

josuar88
12-30-2009, 12:46 AM
I know but it might give enough room so you don't have the race exhaust sound. IDK just a idea not butthurt here lol

EricMeyer
12-30-2009, 01:36 PM
Sorry to bring a thread back from the dead, but I am currently considering doing a side exit exhaust myself. W/o the rear spats, I feel having a rectangular tip on the driver side (or the passenger side if its easier) in front of the rear tire would look really good. Keep in mind the car will be slammed, which will mean the tip will damn near sit on the ground (all part of the stance/hellaflush plan though). The pic below is a good example of what i'm talking about and actually helped influence the idea.


We have done this and you might want to look underneath you car for a good long while before you start ordering parts. Some of the challenges are:

-Lots of heat. The exhaust is very hot off the motor. Over 1,500F out of the block at WOT with higher rpms. It stays hot for a while so the shorter your exhaust the hotter it is.
-Bulkheads. There is no great place to "turn" the exhaust to allow it an exit. Keep in mind you have a fuel tank back there and the heat shield doesn't cover the entire front face of both sides of the fuel tank.
-Ride Height. You will find that proper clearance for your exhaust has the exit from the car right through the rocker panel and door jamb.

Here are a few pics that might help shed some light a project like this. Keep in mind that we made this nice and large to keep the car interior as cool as possible. Typical logged interior temps in the summer are about 125F using a race exhaust in the stock location.

http://gallery.me.com/meyermotorsports#100702/DSC_0043&bgcolor=black

http://gallery.me.com/meyermotorsports#100702/DSCF0061&bgcolor=black

http://gallery.me.com/meyermotorsports#100702/DSCF0064&bgcolor=black

Hope that helps. You are in for a big undertaking. Oh....and you'll need space for at least one muffler too (which is why the size of our tunnel may appear large). You can get some custom race mufflers that are small in size and have additional baffles to reduce the sound a bit. Many of these fabricators (and this is true) use LAVA ROCK inside these mufflers. True story. Check it out.

TrochoidMagic
12-30-2009, 02:12 PM
you know... i've always thought twin slant exit tips out of the passenger rear door scratch guard/rock guard would look awesome.

but of course, it means that you need fabrication, exhaust wrapping, heat shield, etc. and not only that, it means the motor would have to be turned off when passenger rear doors are open, otherwise melting the doors. not very streetable imo.

if only it was a race only car...

and1kidd
12-30-2009, 03:14 PM
This would look cool just not sure how it would sound as a daily driver.

OSSHWA
12-30-2009, 11:17 PM
This would look cool just not sure how it would sound as a daily driver.

Mine is definitely not gonna be a daily. I expect to drive it maybe one a month or so. Its gonna be far too low to really go much of anywhere honestly, lol. If I don't do a custom side exit, i'll likely go with the 5-zigen Pro Racer ZZ cat-back....or if i'm feeling adventurous and rich (lol) i'll try to source the Fabulous cat-back.

OSSHWA
12-30-2009, 11:19 PM
We have done this and you might want to look underneath you car for a good long while before you start ordering parts. Some of the challenges are:

-Lots of heat. The exhaust is very hot off the motor. Over 1,500F out of the block at WOT with higher rpms. It stays hot for a while so the shorter your exhaust the hotter it is.
-Bulkheads. There is no great place to "turn" the exhaust to allow it an exit. Keep in mind you have a fuel tank back there and the heat shield doesn't cover the entire front face of both sides of the fuel tank.
-Ride Height. You will find that proper clearance for your exhaust has the exit from the car right through the rocker panel and door jamb.

Here are a few pics that might help shed some light a project like this. Keep in mind that we made this nice and large to keep the car interior as cool as possible. Typical logged interior temps in the summer are about 125F using a race exhaust in the stock location.

http://gallery.me.com/meyermotorsports#100702/DSC_0043&bgcolor=black

http://gallery.me.com/meyermotorsports#100702/DSCF0061&bgcolor=black

http://gallery.me.com/meyermotorsports#100702/DSCF0064&bgcolor=black

Hope that helps. You are in for a big undertaking. Oh....and you'll need space for at least one muffler too (which is why the size of our tunnel may appear large). You can get some custom race mufflers that are small in size and have additional baffles to reduce the sound a bit. Many of these fabricators (and this is true) use LAVA ROCK inside these mufflers. True story. Check it out.

No muffler. Or resonator....or cat for that matter. Just a header (TiTek), a custom straight pipe and a tip.....lol. Like I said.....NOT gonna be a daily. Just a stanced out cruiser. Plus there are no emission where I live.

I8U
12-31-2009, 12:52 AM
You really should take what Eric is saying to heart...you'll regret otherwise. Especially with this kind of mod...

olddragger
12-31-2009, 09:21 AM
dude its the heat that will mess this up--especially with just a cruiser. Currently the chad on the bumpers are MELTING from tailpipe heat on some cars. And its too hot to even be around the gas tank/lines.