So... eventhough people claim that if we worry about gas, we shoudn't be driving this car, us Texas people drive a LOT more than ppl of other states.

with premium gas approaching $4 a gallon, and may even go higher to $4.5 or god forbids 5! that equates to $52-65 bucks per fill up.

assuming a modest 1300 miles per month of texas driving, that is 72 gallons of gas per month if we baby it... that equates to $288.8 in gas per month

if we add in even traveling between the texas triangle.. which i am prone to do once every month roud trip, tats another 400 miles or another $88 bucks. totalling $376 ish

what could be a solution to drive that cost down a bit?

(oh, i premix.. don't know if tat helps or screws up mpg)
-cheating on the fuel?? add 89 octane instead of 93??
-go back to 5W20 instead of 5W30? (i am currently using 10w30... maybe i should switch back)
-just buy some junk beater car as dailies and change rx8 to weekend (or off the insurance all together)
- from my past experience on an accord, it seems lowering the car makes highway driving easier... save gas by lowering car? o.O (i do alot of highway driving)

man.. as gas price continue to go higher, it really is hard to drive the car like it's suppose to =(

http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/10/news/economy/gas_prices/index.htm?eref=rss_topstories

I laugh at the people who suggest we drive less and either walk or take a bike to the grocery store. That won't work here! I live 24 miles from work. These same people would then say work closer to where you live. I can't. There's nowhere close to my house where I can do the same thing. Then they'd say that I should live closer to where I work. I have no desire to live out here and besides, if the goal is to save money, why would I want a new mortgage? They don't make sense. We all don't live in New York City.

The unfortunate news is that anything you do to help save money will probably end up costing you money. I drive a Civic as a daily driver and use the RX-7 solely as a play car. It's cheaper. I used to drive a rotary as a DD but it's too expensive now. If I lived closer to work it would be a different story. My fiancee lives 50 miles away. I drive about 2000 miles per month on average with more than this being a regular occurance.

As long as the dollar grows weaker then gas prices will continue upwards....so I suggest another car for daily driving. One that gets at least 30 mpg.

Maybe a motorcycle, but those are so dangerous...just the thought of someone turning left in front of me is enough to change my mind.

What to do??

I've been putting 87 or 89 octane in mine for about a year now and I noticed a HUGE difference in gas mileage (for the better) immediately, costs aside. It doesn't make much sense to me other than I guess the rotary has an easier time burning the 87 but either way, gas mileage is better, cost is a bit lower, and car still performs like a dream. I've put in 93 once or twice for my own peace of mind and curiosity, but my mileage drops ridiculously without fail each time and I see no performance difference. So 89. It doesn't cut much but it's a start.

Thats why i roll on two wheels during the week , being at the gas station now a days is like making life decisions

face it, we're hosed, it's already been over 5 bucks a gallon in Europe for years anyway, I guess we're next. :(

Ha, well then I say bring it-I'm not sellin' my baby for nothin'! It's rotorious! :) Figures I'd have a Geo the entire time gas prices were around a dollar a gallon...no way will I do it again, I'd rather pay the price for zero cylinders than go back to three! ;)

Thats why i roll on two wheels during the week , being at the gas station now a days is like making life decisions

sounds tempting, but will have to be after i officially fully leave the nest (1 year)

hahaha i wish i could still ride on 2 wheels...sigh* go rx8 with $3.50 gallon 18 mpg FTW ;p

the economy is in the crapper, the dollar is weak, gas prices sucked before.

The gravy train doesn't go on forever folks... and unless the country changes the direction it's going its only going to get worse. Sorry to turn it into political rant - but everyone in this country bitches about one thing or the other but nobody wants to change the lifestyle they are used to. Current US debt is 9 trillion dollars ... but we as a country still hemorrhage money because we want what we want.

Any suggestion I make is just my opinion - but this country is only going to get worse unless people change their attitudes, minds, and thoughts about how to become a strong nation again.

speak ur mind toxin...run for president lol well said though

I'd vote for Toxin. We need someone with a brain running this country. We're already screwed again for the next 4 years.

And I'll stop before this thread becomes 100% politics.

the economy is in the crapper, the dollar is weak, gas prices sucked before.

The gravy train doesn't go on forever folks... and unless the country changes the direction it's going its only going to get worse. Sorry to turn it into political rant - but everyone in this country bitches about one thing or the other but nobody wants to change the lifestyle they are used to. Current US debt is 9 trillion dollars ... but we as a country still hemorrhage money because we want what we want.

Any suggestion I make is just my opinion - but this country is only going to get worse unless people change their attitudes, minds, and thoughts about how to become a strong nation again.


It's all about entitlements. Destabilizing the region where most of the world's oil is pulled from the ground by invading a Muslim/Arab nation didn't exactly help things either.

So... eventhough people claim that if we worry about gas, we shoudn't be driving this car, us Texas people drive a LOT more than ppl of other states.

with premium gas approaching $4 a gallon, and may even go higher to $4.5 or god forbids 5! that equates to $52-65 bucks per fill up.

assuming a modest 1300 miles per month of texas driving, that is 72 gallons of gas per month if we baby it... that equates to $288.8 in gas per month

if we add in even traveling between the texas triangle.. which i am prone to do once every month roud trip, tats another 400 miles or another $88 bucks. totalling $376 ish

what could be a solution to drive that cost down a bit?

(oh, i premix.. don't know if tat helps or screws up mpg)
-cheating on the fuel?? add 89 octane instead of 93??
-go back to 5W20 instead of 5W30? (i am currently using 10w30... maybe i should switch back)
-just buy some junk beater car as dailies and change rx8 to weekend (or off the insurance all together)
- from my past experience on an accord, it seems lowering the car makes highway driving easier... save gas by lowering car? o.O (i do alot of highway driving)

man.. as gas price continue to go higher, it really is hard to drive the car like it's suppose to =(

http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/10/news/economy/gas_prices/index.htm?eref=rss_topstories

Stop Bitching. BooHoo! Dont like it drive. I drive my truck during the week and my gas bill is over 400 for it a month. 90 each time i fill up. Its a part of life.

It's all about entitlements. Destabilizing the region where most of the world's oil is pulled from the ground by invading a Muslim/Arab nation didn't exactly help things either.

they hit us first.

So much for not turning into a politics thread....


Oh, and Angela, you could always go with an Aveo *snicker*

On the topic of oil consumption, I heard an intereting figure this morning. America's consumption has actually decreased by 1% (expected rise due to population, etc is 1.5%). So technically, we're using 2.5% less than expected. Unfortunately, emerging countries like China are sucking up more than that difference. In short, it's not just America's dependence on oil, it's the entire world's.

yeah i'm thinking i'm going to buy a motorcycle to help with gas prices like they are... while yes i'm spending money to buy less gass i look at is this way... once the prices goes up it hardly goes down so in the long run having he bike will be cheaper.

as far as putting 87 oct. in the tank, is this suggested?

i am just wondering, if we are not knocking, there is no reason why 89 won't work as well as 93 for daily driving right?

Gas Prices? Who worries about that when you can have this much fun?

http://www.tequilerosbikeclub.com/gallery/2007-03-21/025.php

http://www.tequilerosbikeclub.com/gallery/2007-03-21/008.php

http://www.tequilerosbikeclub.com/gallery/2007-03-21/004.php

Those are the Tecate Performing Girls

That was last year, went again this last week.
Going again in 2 weeks. It's a 375 mile trip. one way.
So who worries about gas prices, just enjoy life!

Ya gas is pretty crazy , so now im driving the 2006 endevour around and bring the 8 out on weekends

On the topic of oil consumption, I heard an intereting figure this morning. America's consumption has actually decreased by 1% (expected rise due to population, etc is 1.5%). So technically, we're using 2.5% less than expected. Unfortunately, emerging countries like China are sucking up more than that difference. In short, it's not just America's dependence on oil, it's the entire world's.

funny how this little tidbit is left out of the widespread media huh? thanks for posting that, not a lot of people have figured that out yet. :D:

I'm pretty much stuck with my car and that's fine, better to spend a little more and drive around happy than to save a tiny tidbit and drive around miserable. :)

Heh...I'll be buying a bike soon...once the prices hit $4 bucks...the RX is turning into a toy only...

they hit us first.



Who?? Iraq??? Don't think so.... Regardless, some hard decisions will need to made by all of us who drive to work everyday. Let's hope the auto industry can redirect their thinking and offer more efficient vehicles. If not, then maybe a motorcycle is in the future.

But, my last motorcycle, only got around 38-40 mpg, which isn't seeming like enough!!

Who?? Iraq??? Don't think so.... Regardless, some hard decisions will need to made by all of us who drive to work everyday. Let's hope the auto industry can redirect their thinking and offer more efficient vehicles. If not, then maybe a motorcycle is in the future.

But, my last motorcycle, only got around 38-40 mpg, which isn't seeming like enough!!

ohh okay, you're right, nobody from Iraq or that entire region for that matter has ever never ever taken our citizens hostage, or beheaded someone and televised it, or bombed our embassies, or our ships, or murdered people for having different beliefs than they do or killed innocent people with car bombs etc. This all occurred without provocation, without us lifting a finger to a trigger etc. and so maybe you're right, maybe we're the instigators in all this and we're the ones who started it all. :uhh: That's all I'm saying, they (including Iraq) hit us first, years ago (shit, since Carter was in office at least) and for years since, period. That's all I'm saying, take it to pm if you really want to argue about it.

ohh okay, you're right, nobody from Iraq or that entire region for that matter has ever never ever taken our citizens hostage, or beheaded someone and televised it, or bombed our embassies, or our ships, or murdered people for having different beliefs than they do or killed innocent people with car bombs etc. This all occurred without provocation, without us lifting a finger to a trigger etc. and so maybe you're right, maybe we're the instigators in all this and we're the ones who started it all. :uhh: That's all I'm saying, they (including Iraq) hit us first, years ago (shit, since Carter was in office at least) and for years since, period. That's all I'm saying, take it to pm if you really want to argue about it.

Lets try to stay on topic here.


no harm no foul.


Actually I was playing Xbox live the other day with a few guys from the UK and we got on the topic of oil prices (its amazing what you can find to talk about when your shooting each other up). For some reason the fellows I was playing against seamed to think that Americans use too much fuel because we drive needlessly around. I informed them that we for one don't have the same type of public transportation as them. Most of our cities for instance even the store isn't with in walking distance. Even if it was, we lack things like side walks to make the journey safe. So it when on like this for awhile then they began to understand that she shear size of our cities and country for that matter makes not using a car almost impossible. I'm not saying it can't be done I'm just saying that the reason we use them like we do has a lot to do with the way our country is built.

Hard to discuss gas prices without getting deep into politics, but that said, political threads will be closed.

S

bad ppl bringing politcs in, on a side note 89 is working fine for me =D

Unfortunately, emerging countries like China are sucking up more than that difference. In short, it's not just America's dependence on oil, it's the entire world's.

Bingo! The key is demand from quickly growing countries like China and India. Their usage is rising at an alarming rate. There is NOTHING we can do that can change this. We don't have the price impact that many think we do. We have SOME impact but not much in the grand scheme of things.

Just nuke China, send them back to the Stone Age. Problem solved. :FIREdevil


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:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :icon_no2: oh god the ban stick is comminnng

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2f/Oil_Prices_Medium_Term.png/800px-Oil_Prices_Medium_Term.png

Its called investor speculation by the guys on wallstreet raising the price of oil ...gas prices have skyrocketed...we have no one to blame but our own greedy countrymen and ....of course OPEC

Notice how gas prices and oil prices didn't even go up after 9/11...it wasn't until the past two years when investors realized how profitable this all could be

Do yall not have a DoO section???

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :icon_no2: oh god the ban stick is comminnng

I didn't do it!!! :suspect:

Notice how gas prices and oil prices didn't even go up after 9/11...it wasn't until the past two years when investors realized how profitable this all could be

You mean it's an artificially inflated market??? Kinda reminds me of the housing market... wonder if we'll get the same result in the not too distant future.

I really wish they would take oil futures off the market, but too many people make too much money on it, so it will never happen.

Just buy a car that doesn't get 15 mpg and you'll be fine :) It only costs me $28 bucks to fill up the Miata and I only do it once every week and a half to two weeks which gets me about 260 miles on a tank. Of course working 2.5 miles from home is a good benefit.

Using 89 in my 8 brings on the knocks..... only 93 for me.

ouch, knocking soo easily? it can't be hotter than in texas at LA.

Nah, I don't think it's hotter here.... maybe more humid sometimes. I think she's just a little finicky. ;)

I drive about 50,000 miles a year, 2/3 of that on a CX7, 1/3 on the RX8.

91+ octane is mandatory for the CX7. Even then it knocks sometimes, probably due to building some carbon.

Gas will only continue to rise in price, and over the next 5 years those increases will be fast & furious. Everyday more people from overpopulated countries like India and China are dipping their straws in the oil mug to take a drink.

We've managed to extract the majority of the cheap easy oil on the planet. There is still an abundent supply on earth, it just costs more to get - in many cases a LOT more. And we aren't building up that expensive supply as quickly as we probably should as the entire world of consumers are mere junkies to the oil dealers.

From the models I've been seeing somewhere between $4 and $5 a gallon will be the next leveling point in the US and mostly due to ethanol as a substitute. If we take ethanol down the right direction, fuel prices could actually decrease to the equivalent about $2 a gallon.

true, then corn food will go up in price =/

Ethanol... what a freggin joke. Just a subsidy for corn farmers.

Yeah, I second ALWAZ8. AL is to humid to be putting in the cheap gas. I tried the 89 and got worse mileage. I even tried premix and 89 and it was still bad. Never again.

Just nuke China, send them back to the Stone Age. Problem solved. :FIREdevil


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Whooaa whoaa Someone *hint hint* could get offended by this.. :evil_laug

Ethanol... what a freggin joke. Just a subsidy for corn farmers.
How so?? ethanol is perfect for horsepower cars! :ylsuper: egt's lower, high octane, only downside u use more of it. But it is cheaper so it evens itself out.

It's not anywhere close to cheaper -

........you pay for it thru your taxes, the government funds the whole operation, then sells it at a loss.

How often do you see the government doing stupid things with our money?
So, who's more stupid - you or the government?
Therefore realise that anytime the gov. gives a subsidy to encourage you to do something you would not ordinarily do, because it makes no financial sense, - they are paying you to do something STUPID.

S

I did not say anything about the gov't and i will not sit here and debate politics w/ you. i'm saying it is a better fuel. period. Especially for cars that are boosted.

I never mentioned politics, just pointed out the subsidy.

Your whole argument is pivotally counterbalanced by your claim that..."it's cheaper, so it all evens out."

Taint.

S

bleh, won't work anyway, not enough corn for it and i like my corn on a cob cheap..

I never mentioned politics, just pointed out the subsidy.

Your whole argument is pivotally counterbalanced by your claim that..."it's cheaper, so it all evens out."

Taint.

S
Dude, chill out. Wow name calling on the forum. :lol2: 2.50 a gal is cheaper. so i pay for it out of my taxes who gives a rats A**. Nothing new.....quit cryin:uhh:

i could never argue with anyone with 2 hot les as avatar even if i want to -.-

^^^ahhahahah

Yeah I have been driving the rx8 as my DD but just now have switched over to my wifes car which is a 08 ford focus (35mpg!) so yeah I am saving money but I hate driving that car! it seems like everytime I drive it is see 8's all over the road......damn.....

The thread isn't about boost, it's about gas prices. If you live in Brazil, then sure, using sugar ethanol is cheap cause they have an over abundance of sugar, however, corn ethanol for us in the states is *NOT* cheap. It costs more per gallon (and I am not just referring to the price at the pump) for corn ethanol. Add on to that that every product that had corn in it is suddenly more expensive and you find that not only are you being taxed by the govt to subsidize corn ethanol, you are also being taxed for the increase in price of other goods that the lower supply of corn is causing to increase.

On the up side, higher oil prices mean non-conventional drilling means are worth pursuing, which will perhaps lead to tech advances in that field, thus lowering the drilling costs and the price point which it is profitable to do so.

just some interesting info.

there are more operational oil rigs in the states than there are in the rest of the world combined.