View Full Version : turboXS w/ racepipe CEL


NaarLeven
01-24-2008, 12:06 PM
Okay so I can't do a big search because I'm in class but here is my question,

This afternoon I'm installing my turboxs exhaust + racepipe. Does will the race pipe cause me to throw a CEL? O2 simluator? What's the deal here?

Thanks a shit ton guys

RedefineRX8
01-24-2008, 12:11 PM
yes it will throw a cell, removing the cat will do that.

tdiddy
01-24-2008, 12:18 PM
It will PROBABLY throw a CEL. Some cars have not had this problem. You just have to go for it and see what happens...

chetrickerman
01-24-2008, 12:42 PM
its not like its a bad thing to throw a CEL for a midpipe, as long as it doesnt start blinking

NaarLeven
01-24-2008, 02:47 PM
blah but is there anyway to stop it?

Will resetting the ECU with the brake or odometer methods work on getting it to go away?

The CEL I know will just frustrate me haha and I dont want to have to use black tape :D

Red Devil
01-24-2008, 02:52 PM
blah but is there anyway to stop it?

Will resetting the ECU with the brake or odometer methods work on getting it to go away?

The CEL I know will just frustrate me haha and I dont want to have to use black tape :D

Not trying to be a jerk...but how did you purchase a part that is in all statistical probability going to cause a CEL when clearly you don't want to deal with it? Did you not research before you purchased the product?

NaarLeven
01-24-2008, 03:31 PM
The race pipe was free der

mac11
01-24-2008, 03:54 PM
so is the first hit....

Red Devil
01-24-2008, 03:59 PM
The race pipe was free der

So I guess I should call TurboXS and request a free midpipe? Why didn't I think of that years ago...

NaarLeven
01-24-2008, 04:09 PM
So I guess I should call TurboXS and request a free midpipe? Why didn't I think of that years ago...

Comes for free with the catback ace ;-)

Red Devil
01-24-2008, 04:13 PM
Comes for free with the catback ace ;-)

edit: nevermind.

If you don't want the CEL, maybe just sell your midpipe and put that money towards a high flow cat...which won't cause a CEL.

mac11
01-24-2008, 04:15 PM
Comes for free with the catback ace ;-)

you don't think it is figured in the price?


and even at that, it doesn't stop you from doing the research to know what you can expect from putting the part on your car.

I can't think of a time when i have or would put a part on my car not having a very good idea of what to expect from it.

NaarLeven
01-24-2008, 04:19 PM
It's part of the package - you paid for it. Nothing is free, except the marketing bs.

Cheapest cat back except hi flow hks and the race pipe is sold seperately for 150, whole deal for 500 or so? Jesus the point here is its a good deal and if it sits in my garage instead of going on the car makes no difference to me.

Lord

Dominicano
01-26-2008, 10:35 PM
Has anyone tried putting a mid-pipe with out throwing a CEL i was looking at the one xdeedubbx has but that thing is way 2 expensive...lol...i was looking 2 purchase an HKS Hi Power and wanted 2 run a mid-pipe but i dont want 2 risk for anything 2 go wrong on the car i still have warranty on it.

tiltmode43
01-27-2008, 04:34 AM
Has anyone tried putting a mid-pipe with out throwing a CEL i was looking at the one xdeedubbx has but that thing is way 2 expensive...lol...i was looking 2 purchase an HKS Hi Power and wanted 2 run a mid-pipe but i dont want 2 risk for anything 2 go wrong on the car i still have warranty on it.

For the first ~50mi or so of my hks hi-power + race pipe I had no CEL but after getting the car to run rich it finally threw it. If you have high grade fuel and drive with low RPMs I'm pretty sure it will come off though (peak efficiency of engine). I had a dead CAT that did this and it seemed to correspond with quality of gasoline + how hard I drove the car. BTW, one word - loud.

Dominicano
01-27-2008, 02:30 PM
^^^ Let's say it just a daily drive i fill it up with 93 and put the mid-pipe on it will the it hurt the car in the long run or is the CEL on the dash just showing due to the cat not being there??

staticlag
01-27-2008, 03:49 PM
^^^ Let's say it just a daily drive i fill it up with 93 and put the mid-pipe on it will the it hurt the car in the long run or is the CEL on the dash just showing due to the cat not being there??

just shows the cat isn't there.

The real downside is that you won't know about any other CEls being thrown by the car.

tiltmode43
01-27-2008, 05:18 PM
just shows the cat isn't there.

The real downside is that you won't know about any other CEls being thrown by the car.

Yup, if the CEL is solid on, however, its most likely in the breathing system. (Essentially) Just showing the lack of cat converter (the o2 sensor just behind where that cat would be). Not harmful at all. Usually a solid CEL is from the breathing system in the rx8 anyways (Mass Air Flow, o2, etc) so as long as there's no blink you should be good. Hm, daily driving w/93 octane pretty sure my car's light would go off but the problem is all cars run slightly differently (slight differences in the engine parts) and thus its kind of difficult to predict. Giving it a try is the only advice I can give. The light is also likely to come off if the car has time to sit for a few days, at least this was my experience with a gutted cat...

Dominicano
01-27-2008, 05:27 PM
^^^ Im sorry if to ask such a dumb question but what did you exactly mean by letting " it sit for a few days"??

chancejat
01-27-2008, 06:28 PM
i have a code reader/eraser and whenever the ol' slow o2 respone cel comes up( i think its p0139) i just erase the code again, it usally comes back on in 100-200 miles, but if i drive hard for a couple minutes it comes on always, the code readers are at pepboys(actron) and do work on the 8 and will temp remove the check engine light....there about 70 bucks

Fanman
01-27-2008, 06:42 PM
blah but is there anyway to stop it?

Will resetting the ECU with the brake or odometer methods work on getting it to go away?

The CEL I know will just frustrate me haha and I dont want to have to use black tape :D


No, you can't make it go away permanently. Even if you reset it, usually within a few miles the ECU will detect you don't have a cat & throw the CEL up again. One of the things that you have to live with when you take your cat off. That and it being obscenly loud (welcome Mr. po-po), and it might cause a nauseous smell in your cabin from the fuel fumes.

Dominicano
01-27-2008, 07:12 PM
To tell you the honest truth i was only thinking of getting the mid-pipe just because of the flames and the cool factor that's about it..when you think about it you as the driver are in the car and the only person that might see the flames are the people behind you...for now im gonna buy the HKS hi-power and just run it with the stock cat...might get the super cat later on..and about the cops^^^ your correct when i use to drive my old Integra down 2 the beach i had a full custom 2.5" exhaust with a mid-pipe and i would have to drive it as soft as i could down by the beach...miami beach cops are total dickheads especially when there hear anything that is 2 loud.

diabolical1
01-28-2008, 12:44 PM
...miami beach cops are total dickheads especially when there hear anything that is 2 loud.
that's everywhere.

ricky356
01-28-2008, 11:49 PM
i have the turbo xs race pipe and cat back, and a o2 simulator. performance improves with the simulator....but the cel stays.

diabolical1...... were on the same page :)

Jeromie
01-29-2008, 12:05 AM
ahh just deal with it! or at least see if u like the sound.... just try it frist and if its not worth it to u then sell it :dunno:

CnnmnSchnpps
01-29-2008, 12:19 AM
Cheapest cat back except hi flow hks and the race pipe is sold seperately for 150, whole deal for 500 or so? Jesus the point here is its a good deal and if it sits in my garage instead of going on the car makes no difference to me.

Lord

If you install the catback only, factor in the cost of having it cut and re-welded for the flanges to mate up...

chancejat
01-29-2008, 07:56 AM
If you install the catback only, factor in the cost of having it cut and re-welded for the flanges to mate up...

when i got my turboxs race pipe put in he had to cut and weld the stock exhaust to fit tight and he didnt charge any extra.....

secret_squirrel
05-21-2008, 02:14 AM
Confuscius say - Man with mid-pipe, blinded by the light.(just like Manfred Mann's earth band). Look at it this way, you can use it as an excuse like I did with my fiance. "But honey, I need the Accessport to turn off the light.":eyetwitch

mysql
05-21-2008, 07:20 AM
+1 for accessport. Its the proper way to remove just the malfunctioning cat cel 100%

Mafia
05-21-2008, 08:52 PM
I had the CEL. I bought a hand scanner just to check every once in a while for any new codes and one day the light went off and never came back :dunno: