Ok i know im goin to catch hell from all the rotary fanatics about this, but here we go. If any of you have read any of my previous post about all of the trouble i have had my renny then you know how the story goes, for those of you who have not read them then heres the tip of the iceberg. about 4 1/2 months ago i started getting a rattle coming from my intake folowed by severe power loss, after a trip to the dealership and a compression check i was told that i had a dead engine. Lowcompression in both rotors was the case with no waranty to save me in sight. we all know how much a remaned renny cost and we also all know that there are some guys that are even in the 3rd engine club, I just couldent bring my self to spending the kind of money it was goin to take to get my car back on the road. Now granted i would have had a waranty with the new engine i just wasnt all so fired up about it. the cost of doing a 13b rew or a 3 rotor was astounding in price for the engine and not to mention the cost of outting it in the car. so I just turned to nissan for there tried and true turbo 4. It wont throw off the balance of the car by much and its fits in the engine bay rather well. this project has been ongoing for about 2 12 months now with a good but not to big of a chunk of change spent.(still under 5400$) The first thing that we did (also were all of the time has been spent) Its getting the drivetrain mounted in the car without cutting the body or having to change the steering system or stock suspenion. an entire tubular subframe (engine cradle) was the answer and its what we did. The engine is placed to where nothing under the hood with exception of the pcm that im not using and the abs block. the sr20 tranny is way smaller than the 8's so that was not to much of a problem. new transmission mount have been fabricated as well as a custom powerplant frame. the driveshaft isnt finished yet and everything is in the powder coating shop as of now. There is still a long road ahead for getting this thing back on the road as far as wiring and making a nissan motor work in a mazda. im going to try as hard as i can for now to utilize as many stock parts as i can for now mainly for budget reasons( im not rich) .I do have pictures of the progress from start to now give me a few more weeks and i will have much more to share. And last but not least, i KNOW im goin to catch hell from alot of you diee hard rotory guys and for that im sorry. But i like doing crazy things to cars and cosidering im doing most of the work and calling in alot of favors .im having a blast. Ok im done for now....flame sute on

Pictures?

sounds interesting i had a sr20det in my nx2000 and that thing kicked bass. Would love to see the pics.

gl buddy!!!!!!!:) a SR20 Det Rx8 would be niccceeee as hell:)

pics!

Could pics. Keep us updated. Im sure as hell interested.

at least it's a good motor. i have a buddy that did this swap but to an s13...and the stock turbo sounds cool. i've been a fan of this motor since forever.

you better post some vids man.

I've wanted to see this done for awhile now. Looks good so far keep us updated and good luck with it

only 2 pics?

when i have time to resize everything i will put more up till then yes only two pics

That's crazy! Good luck on the build. What's your goal, track, autox?

lol daily driver and occasional track days and whatever else comes my way

damn, this is cool as hell. i have a SR avalible to me for cheap and a slow renny with a big stupid heavy auto trans behind it...maybe this is the way to go... great job dude, keep us posted

welcome to the crazy club.... Im liking it.. (traitor) ups..... sorryy .....
Seriously, it looks very good. Good luck bro.

sweet man. post a dyno slip once you're done.

Thats sweet. I like odd ball swaps for some reason

The SR is a hell of a powerplant. Good luck and keep us posted!! Being a long time SR fan, and been behind the wheel of quite a few SR powered cars, Im DEFINATELy interested!!

i had this idea a while ago but i have no reason to replace my motor yet (knock on wood) gl with the swap! i had that in my s14 n it was fun as hell!

Sweet. That is freakin' awesome... You know.. I'm really surprised that noone has any negative posts.

Good luck man, and please keep us posted.

hey good luck man, I think this is an awesome Idea, I used to have an S13 w/ a CA18det in it, I loved that motor and just recently sold it, I had thoughts of throwing it in the 8 but never had the time or the money to pull it off, deff wana see this get up and running!!!!

Sweet. That is freakin' awesome... You know.. I'm really surprised that noone has any negative posts.

Good luck man, and please keep us posted.

As am I. I wouldn't do this swap, but it's your car and it looks like it's coming around and you've got a plan...definitely let us know how it goes.

Sweet. That is freakin' awesome... You know.. I'm really surprised that noone has any negative posts.

Good luck man, and please keep us posted.

NO DOUBT. glad i have people in the comunity behind me on this...thanks guys

Yeah, this looks interesting. That pic looks weird - a piston motor under an RX-8 hood! I've seen people talk about it, but this is the first one I've actually seen (there is a guy in the Chicago area that has a LS-1 in his FD, but I haven't seen it done with an 8). Will be curious to know how it affects the balance of the car. Looks like it doesn't extend too far ahead of the front axle. What is the weight of this motor vs the renesis?

So what are you going to call your Frankenstein monster? :) It's not really an RX anymore. Maybe a MX-8?

Good luck!

Piston eXperiment 8 - PX-8! :lol:

You could even cut the stem off the R and have an official badge :lol2:

just waiting for total cost

Yeah, this looks interesting. That pic looks weird - a piston motor under an RX-8 hood! I've seen people talk about it, but this is the first one I've actually seen (there is a guy in the Chicago area that has a LS-1 in his FD, but I haven't seen it done with an 8). Will be curious to know how it affects the balance of the car. Looks like it doesn't extend too far ahead of the front axle. What is the weight of this motor vs the renesis?
So what are you going to call your Frankenstein monster? :) It's not really an RX anymore. Maybe a MX-8?

Good luck!

I asked a buddy of mine who's big into the Nissan SR20 swaps & he said around 400lbs sounds about right.. I dont remember what the Renny weights.

Holy hell your run-on paragraph killed my eyes.

Looks interesting, however.

Keep us posted... I miss my 240 dearly.

thatz nice to hear!

hey good luck man, I think this is an awesome Idea, I used to have an S13 w/ a CA18det in it, I loved that motor and just recently sold it, I had thoughts of throwing it in the 8 but never had the time or the money to pull it off, deff wana see this get up and running!!!!

I have an EJ20(WRX) motor sitting around, that I would love to throw in the 8.... just don't know any good fab'ers.

good luck with that. As a rotary fan im not totally dissapointed for the sr20det is one of nissans best engines ever created. If it were me i would have went with a RB motor (if that could fit) but the SR looks nice and snug in there.

honestly I respect this build
at least it isnt a ls1
good luck

atleast you stayed japanese lol. damn ls1' corny mumbo jumbo

I say gl and piss on whoever gives u sh*t haha they're just jealous.

as for the rb engine fitting into the rx-8. yes it will(with the moving of some items)
ive been talking to a few good fabbers about different swaps. I'd like to see some1 get creative and swap a f22 engine, another great high revving power plant.

as for the ej20... wow why? lol. replace 1 unreliable high power, power plant for another? Sounds like trouble and not worth it.

What's so unreliable with an EJ? I've never had any problems with mine.

It's projects like these that make the RX8 still tempting.

Good luck with your project and once it's done, you need to post some vids and dyno charts.

I've heard of the sr20det engine, but never really knew much about it. Anyone want to enlighten me?

It is the stock motor that comes in the Nissan Sylvia. It's a 2.0 liter, 4cyl, turbo engine. Very very very Very good platform for huge horses.

To be a little more specific. the SR20 was in the 180sx and Silvia from 91 to I think around 03 or so ending with the S15. I've helped install many and they are a great motor, strong and reliable. This will deffinatly be an awesome car when finished. The Rx8 is a much better chassis but I always miss the power and sound from my CA18det which was in the silvia/180sx before the SR. I've had thoughts of doing this myself. Depending on how yours turns out and if/when i blow another motor I'll deff consider doing this:Eyecrazy:

Pshhh... it's only a SR20DET... try swapping in a RB20DET! Here's my current project, it's almost near completion. This is the reason why I'm not on here whoring the forums lately. :)

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/xDarkGenesisx/Project%20240/1112070009.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/xDarkGenesisx/Project%20240/1112070008.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/xDarkGenesisx/Project%20240/1112070007.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/xDarkGenesisx/Project%20240/1112070006.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/xDarkGenesisx/Project%20240/1112070005.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/xDarkGenesisx/Project%20240/1112070004.jpg

Here's the hardest part; getting this huge engine in.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/xDarkGenesisx/Project%20240/1112070003.jpg

Sorry for the different size and crappy ass pics, they're all taken by my cell phone. I'm going to drop in a 2JZ into an 8 one day. :)

it clears the electric power steering OK then?
vert interesting for me.
oldscdragger

not so much. kep in mind that i have had a company here in town ( racingconcepts.net) build an entire custom subframe to do this swap. the power steering unit has been moved forward about 4" to clear the sr's oil pan. luckily moving it this small bit didnt effect sway bar placement. as for getting the electric assist working thats one of those things that is going to have to be worked out. its as simple as putting a speed sensor on the sr somewhere or the rear end, then translating that signal to tha rack so it will work properly without the pcm. so yes the power steering will be ok after a lil work

do you guys think the 4G93 would fit in??

wow. i was waiting for someone to do this. post more pics n videos.

wow nicee keep us updated. If i had a choice to do an engine swap first in line would be a 20b, if that doesnt work then either RB20DET or the 2JZ-GTE, if those dont work out then id go with the SR20DET.

if someone had a choice im sure a 3 rotor (or 4) would be on the top of their list.

im pretty sure money was the first reason for this swap.

The RX-8 really wants a rear-sump engine. There are only two modern four-cylinders that will go in easy. The BP from the old Miata is light, small, rear-sumped and almost free. It responds well to boost.

I'm told by someone who should know that a current MX-5 subframe is a direct swap into an RX-8, which would let you build a 2.3L MZR. Still not trivial, but with the right turbo on the side, would make an RX-8 into a GT3 killa.

The photos in the swap here seem to show the engine on quite a rearward slant, though I suppose it could just be the fender slope. That's often the case when front-sump engines are put in cars that want rear-sump motors.

I'd personally like to do a Toyota 1UZ V-8. But my whole reason for buying an RX-8 is so I don't have to work on it.

Let us know what this ends up costing. I am very interested.

Also ^^^is this true can the mx-5 engine mount in there no problem?

How about an MZR 2.3 from a 6 or 3. Anyone know?

Your camera makes my eyes bleed. I wanna see the results so keep up the good work. Subscribed.

Good job!

damn se3p guy those pics are huge man.

I'm told by someone who should know that a current MX-5 subframe is a direct swap into an RX-8, which would let you build a 2.3L MZR. Still not trivial, but with the right turbo on the side, would make an RX-8 into a GT3 killa.


Very interesting. Indeed that sounds like something to look into. 2.3L Miata motor sound doable.

Well if this guy pulls off the Sr20Det swap and doesn't cost an arm and a leg, I'm going to start planning a swapped motor when my rennie decides to quit.
I want to see this thing fully mounted so I can determine the space available above the motor. Although I love the SR, I'm a KA-T fan.
So depending on whether there is space above the motor would be my determining factor.

In case anyone wanted to know. Nissan KA24DE is the stock motor on US spec 240SX.
Dirt cheap motor since everyone swaps, lots of aftermarket parts available, durable iron block, more torque than an equivalent SR, suited with a t3/t04e would yield 350+ HP easily.
Th downside is no more 6-speed, not sure if the nissan ecu can control the creature comforts this car offers, ex. heated seats, etc.. :(

Sep3...ur runnin out of room at ur crib dog! LOL I love it, taking over the place for an engine swap, good stuff.

http://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php?p=1995527&postcount=110

and

http://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php?p=1997412&postcount=121

are relevant here.

i can say that you make a good point. I can do it and am doing it but i value everyones input and honset opinion. plus i am having alot of fun.

well its monday and were still waiting on parts to get back from powdercoating, I should be getting my throttle in today so when we bigin the instal i will post pics of what we had to do.

traitor!!!! lol just had to say it, i would have rather done a 2jz but i got a rx8 cause i wanted a rotary. good luck on the swap though.

just a quick update for all , we have had to rethink and re fab a few parts to make mt steering setup as close to stock as we can. we ran in to some issues with the parts that were previously made and decided to re think things. when we finish our newest idea i will post up details of what we did and how we did it. stay tuned stilll much much more to come. thanks for the support

bump....still workin

I must give ya some props for this since its orginal and wont be a dynoqueen motor swap. I think thats the main reason why you havent had alot of "BURN IN HELL TRATIOR!" styled post's.

Definantly keep us updated and remember we love pictures even if nothing has been done. Just take the same photo at different angles and we'll be happy for a long time :rofl:

should of done a LS1

ok so here are a few more pictures of whats been goin on this week. in order to keep my stock steering geometry we had to move the engine back a few more inches. in order to do this we had to chop a nice chunk out of the wiper cowl for fitment and making it easy to work on while the engine is in the car. I will have detailed pictures of the finished wiper cowl later tonight when i finish welding it all back together. also were going to try fitting a steering rack from a rx7 in to keep from having to jump into the wiring nightmare of makin the stock unit work.

ok so here are a few more pictures of whats been goin on this week. in order to keep my stock steering geometry we had to move the engine back a few more inches. in order to do this we had to chop a nice chunk out of the wiper cowl for fitment and making it easy to work on while the engine is in the car. I will have detailed pictures of the finished wiper cowl later tonight when i finish welding it all back together. also were going to try fitting a steering rack from a rx7 in to keep from having to jump into the wiring nightmare of makin the stock unit work.

thats awsome, i will be doing a swap, as soon as i sell my motor and tranny, and after market mods, how much has everything cost so far, and how hard is this in comparison to the lsx swap to do, thanks

whats the swap costing so far

so far im in about 5k. this is for the engine, tranny, ecu and wiring, 2.5" charge pipes. full 2.5 " exhaust and custom downpipe. greddy BOV, lokar throttle pedal and cable, hose couplers and clamps, assorted bundles of wire. new vaccum lines, stainless braided fuel lines from the pump to the eng. bay, new brakes lines, a brake poportioning valve. custom radiator hoses, a host of autometer ultralite gauges, custom built short shifter, custom drive shaft, custom trans mounts, a modified subframe, an intercooler from a srt4, and a few other goodies. i still have a few more things i need to get so this is a preliminary list so far. BTW i will be posting up pics of what i had to do to the fire wall in a lil bit.

thats one great power plant

i swap one in to my 240

was too easy

good look homie

What are the goals with this thing? How many horses etc?

Seal.

goals for now are getting everyday drivable in stock form, after that is acomplished i want to get this built to put down atleast 425 to the rear wheels or somwhere close to that. And here are the pics of the notch in the firewall/ wiper cowl. it goes from before to now

Obviously if you check any of my posts I'm a rotorhead extreme but 'more power' to you. I hope it all works out and you have great fun.

Seal.

Makes you appriciate how low and far back the Renny can sit doesn't it.

Still, keep up the good work! I hope you love it when you're done.

ya... more pictures!!!!
keep 'em coming.

ya... more pictures!!!!
keep 'em coming.

+1 :squint:

so far im in about 5k...

Man, it'd be so much easier to just find a clean S14 that the SR would bolt right into. Good chassis, 265/35-18s all around, good aftermarket support, keep your ABS and A/C, etc. The only way this RX-8 swap makes any sense is if "because I can" means enough.

It makes sense to me for a few reasons, 1 because i can, 2 because my renny died with no waranty and i wasnt about to spend more money just to have a stock problimatic power plant. so i can deal with the sacrifices i have made. plus the 8 looks and drives way way way better than a 240.

It makes sense to me for a few reasons, 1 because i can......plus the 8 looks and drives way way way better than a 240.

Yes....and yes. Not like the guy bought the car with the intentions of just gutting it and throwin in SR20. The Renny had its chance and took a shite. Good luck wit it!

dude I totally applaud you for this venture. Don't listen to others who like to take the easy way out or do something thats already been done. If something doesn't work for you, make a moral and educated discision to go a different route if needed.

right on

right on

awsome work and right up so far, keep us posted

ok heres a pic of the engine mocked up after i trimed the firewall. it fits rather nice with about an inch or so of clearance. also heres a pic of the gauge pod i made for the center of the dash...i might be willing to make more if you guys like it.

wow - the finished gauge pod looks great. i like it.

dd sends...

all this work might be worth it if it was a V8

all this work might be worth it if it was a V8

http://www.feuerwher.de/forum/feuerwehr_forum_troll.jpg

lol!

all this work might be worth it if it was a V8
A Corvette wouldn't be such a POS if it had a rotary in it!!!! ahahahahah ;)

(Actually a supercharged 3 rotor would make that car actually something worth owning. But just barely. Rip the manufacturers emblem off of it and it could work.)

A Corvette wouldn't be such a POS if it had a rotary in it!!!! ahahahahah ;)

(Actually a supercahrged 3 rotor would make that car actually something worth owning. But just barely.)


+1 :icon_no2: :icon_no2: :icon_no2:

Don't even get me started on Ford motors or those archaic Hemi's! ;)

I love starting crap with mullets. Keep in mind I had one at one point!

Don't even get me started on Ford motors or those archaic Hemi's! ;)

I love starting crap with mullets. Keep in mind I had one at one point!

Business up front Party in the back

all this work might be worth it if it was a V8

ook i wont get definsive but...Im having to do alot to make this work that is for sure, but all the work i have done and still have to do is a drop in the bucket compared to what would have to be done to this thing to make a v8 fit and still have the car be able to turn at some point. this car was built with nothing but rotary in mind and undoing that is a bitch for sure. I originally was going to do the v8 thing but i would have totally destroyed the cars great handling, not so much for the weight but the way you would have to make the steering system it would just be a straight line driving car. i know someone will do it eventually and when they do i will tip my hat to themm because i know the pain in the ass factor will be off the charts.....ok im done back to work.

A Corvette wouldn't be such a POS if it had a rotary in it!!!! ahahahahah ;)

(Actually a supercharged 3 rotor would make that car actually something worth owning. But just barely. Rip the manufacturers emblem off of it and it could work.)


hating on the corvette ehh ? somebody leave you in the dust ?? yea 3 rotor supercharged would be nice i guess.... prolly take an engine like that to even move the car since the normal rotary engine in the Rx8 is so weak. :yelrotflm It seems to me the rotary isnt all that great the Rx8 makes like 1\3rd of the power and lasted like 50k miles. im guessing thats why this guy is taking the motor out and going through all this work to NOT have a rotary :)

i was just saying that all this work and the SR20 isnt even more powerfull than the stock Rx8 engine is it ? and if it is its not by much. i believe they come with a T25 turbo right ??

i know im gonna start getting comments on how great the rotary is and all then why are you guys all for him takign this engine out and putting in a nissan motor ?

cmr333 your car looks good man i didnt know it was such a big deal to do a V8 in these cars i figured since they do it in FD's and all i dunno its not like i research these things. im just giving ya a hard time anyways ;)

hating on the corvette ehh ? somebody leave you in the dust ?? yea 3 rotor supercharged would be nice i guess.... prolly take an engine like that to even move the car since the normal rotary engine in the Rx8 is so weak. :yelrotflm It seems to me the rotary isnt all that great the Rx8 makes like 1\3rd of the power and lasted like 50k miles. im guessing thats why this guy is taking the motor out and going through all this work to NOT have a rotary :)

i was just saying that all this work and the SR20 isnt even more powerfull than the stock Rx8 engine is it ? and if it is its not by much. i believe they come with a T25 turbo right ??

i know im gonna start getting comments on how great the rotary is and all then why are you guys all for him takign this engine out and putting in a nissan motor ?

cmr333 your car looks good man i didnt know it was such a big deal to do a V8 in these cars i figured since they do it in FD's and all i dunno its not like i research these things. im just giving ya a hard time anyways ;)

Speedsource RX-8, if I remember correctly, did great against the Corvettes.... Oh wait the RX-8 won....... Life isn't all about the straight line dip shit this aint the Fast and the Furious cars are a conventional piece of transportation.

all this work might be worth it if it was a V8

Spoken like a true hillbilly.....lol, ignorance is bliss eh LSX?

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m138/jones75254/billys.jpg

wow hilbillys ..............btw bone stock sr20 is 205 hp and 203 tourqe. when i finish with the few lil mods to it and the reflashed ecu that came with it ill be sitting at about 250 and 245....bout the same power yes but gobs of tourqe compared to stock

Speedsource RX-8, if I remember correctly, did great against the Corvettes.... Oh wait the RX-8 won....... Life isn't all about the straight line dip shit this aint the Fast and the Furious cars are a conventional piece of transportation.

wtf are you talking about fast and furious and straight line racing for. you think\ just cause a car has a V8 it cant handle? yea its typical to use one example of a fast RX8 vs vette blah blah but you know deep down inside that most of the RX8's on the road cant even compete with a stock vette. vettes are not as shity as you guys make them out to be they perform great for their price. im not really sure where you guys are getting off on this Vette sucks kick. you might not like GM cars thats fine and all but you sound like a ricer crying about a car that performs way better than yours . oh yea and the hill billy stereo type shit wtf . what do you think the stereotype of your car is then ..... oh yea that fast and furious comment is about you. Dipshit

i would find some stupid ass picture to post up here but id end up making more people cry im sure. :rofl:

why dont you guys just drop this shit and we'll see how this guys car turns out.

hating on the corvette ehh ? somebody leave you in the dust ?? yea 3 rotor supercharged would be nice i guess.... prolly take an engine like that to even move the car since the normal rotary engine in the Rx8 is so weak. :yelrotflm It seems to me the rotary isnt all that great the Rx8 makes like 1\3rd of the power and lasted like 50k miles. im guessing thats why this guy is taking the motor out and going through all this work to NOT have a rotary :)


Wow mullet can't take a joke! Apparently even joking about the Vette is a crime in the south! Go apologize to the trailer park for me. I'll buy them a case of Lone Star Light next chance I get. We'll sit back and watch the tornado together. Bring the banjo. We'll sing songs about Larry the cable guy. Good times man!

It's obvious you came over here to do nothing but troll. I actually don't have a problem with the LSX engines. I even helped my good friend Jim build up his Z28. I just wanted to see if you were cool and could take a joke or if you were a troll. I guess that answers that. In the words of one of your idols, "here's your sign". The LSX engines are plentiful and relatively speaking they're cheap. For what they do they are also fairly light. They may not have the best horsepower to displacement ratio compared to many other engines out there but that's OK. They make up for that by just having more displacement than most other engines out there. The one area I will slam them though is they sound like a can of smashed assholes rattling around inside an empty water tower. American V8's have never sounded good. It's all hillbilly music as far as I'm concerned. That doesn't mean they aren't fast. They are. They just sound like marbles in a blender doing it. All of them! Show me a nice sounding V8 and I'll show you one that isn't American. The Europeans know how to make a V8 sound good! Detroit should get a clue in this area.

No I haven't had a Corvette leave me in the dust. You're funny! I actually don't street race. I have nothing to prove. I find that the people with the most powerful vehicles are usually the only ones that have anything to prove to anyone else. That means you sunshine! You obviously can't keep up with your own crowd if you have to go to other forums where they have less powerful engines just to pick on someone. Can't hang with your own huh? I guess that really tells us who the loser is doesn't it!

I do like your own slam against the vette though. You did it and didn't even know it! You said this above but I'll quote it again. "yea 3 rotor supercharged would be nice i guess.... prolly take an engine like that to even move the car since the normal rotary engine in the Rx8 is so weak. :yelrotflm " I love this. It cracks me up! Are you calling the Vette fat? I think you are! Don't you realize that the C6 for the first time in Vette history actually weighs less than a small aircraft carrier? The C6 actually weighs less than the RX-8 which means the Renesis could move it just fine. This isn't a shot against the RX-8. It's actually a tribute to the fact that Detroit (excuse me Bowling Green, Kentucky) has actually learned how to build a car that is finally light enough that it doesn't have it's own gravitational field and isn't studied by astronomers. Defending a car you know nothing about is another sign of trolling. Damn this is fun!

Here's a race you're about to lose. It's the race to reply! The loser gets banned! I win!

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Here's a race you're about to lose. It's the race to reply! The loser gets banned! I win!

Pwned Pwned Pwned :lol: :lol: :lol:

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quote[Are you calling the Vette fat? I think you are! Don't you realize that the C6 for the first time in Vette history actually weighs less than a small aircraft carrier?]


:balls: lol awsome

That was freakin great RG.:lol: :lol: :lol:

Since I whizzed in his Cherrios, I have no doubt that he'll come back. I hope he realizes that his 5-10 minutes worth of time and effort to sign back up quite literally takes me as long as it takes to click the mouse button to totally undo. And the retaliation post takes just as long to delete! That's why I find it funny that people will actually come back. I can click the mouse button all day long! It's literally a second of my time!

I know I came across as harsh but I feel it's fine if it's a troll or a mullet (A V8 loving, rotary hating troll). Add that term to your dictionary! Rotard (a person ignorant in the ways of the rotary) would also have been an acceptable term. I wouldn't do this to a valued member. I will pick on them though! ;)

It's funny, I was actually just joking with the guy too!

RG ur the man :rock: lol haha i knew he was a troll to begin with. I like the LS engines theyre nice and powerful but for someone to actually take the time and effort to sign up in this forum and then talk about how great the corvette is and how shitty the rx8 is just askin for trouble. He'll be back for sure. CMR333 keep up the great work I can't to see the final outcome of your car :)

Time to use some of this stuff :lol: http://pics.bikerag.com/Uploads/data/500/258Troll_spray.jpg

this quite funny
and sorry guys but i would rather own a C6 than my RX8 but there is no way it put a LS6 in it, by the time i did that i could sell the 8 and nearly get a vette

but back on topic the SR's can make great power my i helped build one that put 360hp and 348tq at the wheels at 18 psi on stock motor but i will recomend rocker arm stoppers

this quite funny
and sorry guys but i would rather own a C6 than my RX8 but there is no way it put a LS6 in it, by the time i did that i could sell the 8 and nearly get a vette

but back on topic the SR's can make great power my i helped build one that put 360hp and 348tq at the wheels at 18 psi on stock motor but i will recomend rocker arm stoppers

If I turn the silver nob to the right about a quarter of a turn, I will do that for much less right now.

That being said, the SR is one of my favorite 4 bangers!

vettes are not as shity as you guys make them out to be they perform great for their price. im not really sure where you guys are getting off on this Vette sucks. .

This dude, is on something. He said vette's perform good for the price? 50K+ for a base model Corvette. As for the rx8's are 30K fully loaded. With the extra 20,000 you can do a hell of alot to the rx8.

Besides that fool,

The build is coming along nice.

I love all the nissan's motors. I have a few friends that are die hard drifters, with 240sx, one with a rb20, one with a sr20, and the other with a ka. I hear alot about these things, all day, and they make fun of how i have no pistons.. but i know there joking so its all good. Anyways there all motor, no looks. These cars are primer and about 10 different colors.. but they sure are f@ckin balls fast

Anyways keep us updated, and good luck!

sweet so ive got good looks and it will be balls fat lol...woo hoo

bump for me....still workin

Any news?

well im waiting on a few misc parts to come in and aiting on a few things to come back from powdercoat..ill post an update on sunday night

bump 4 me....updates comin tonight. i have all my parts back from powdercoat and i have install a clutch so i will post up some pics as soon as i can...also im working on a few cool custom parts that i will be making a limited production run on, vents gauge pods etc. anyone interested?

Can't wait to see man

Yeah these Rotary motors are such junk I am going to swap mine out for a Ford Focus SVT motor in a few weeks.

Did you only buy the RX-8 because it looks cool? I never understand these swaps, the whole thing about a Rotary is, its a Rotary. It's not the same as 99% of the cars on the road. Maybe if you blew your motor I can see putting in a 20b or 13b, but putting a piston motor in it makes it belong in a Nissan Forum or a Supra forum, or whatever the person puts under the hood now.

Maybe this guy should use a nissan in his airplane
http://www.rotaryaviation.com/renesis_engine.htm

Hey i'm just saying its the only car company that makes something totally different so why destroy that? And unless that sr20 det is all aluminum it weighs more than the Renesis so it won't drive like a RX-8 any more either.

Hmmm Wow

Hey to each his own but I just don't get it, if I wanted a supra motor I buy a supra, If I wanted a sr20 det I get a 240 and put it in. I do admire the fabrication that goes into making these fit and work but I just don't like swapping different manufacturers motors into diff manufacturers cars. Almost seems like cross breeding a man with an ape to see what its going to be like, lol.

Once at the track, I saw a Mustang 5.0 with a calvin pissing on a ford emblem sticker in the window, I was curious so I looked at the car when it was in the pits and it had a chevy small block in it. It was kinda funny but why didn't he get a chevelle or a camaro?

Why the downgrade? At least put a LSx or a I6 in it if you're going to do a non-rotary swap.

Oh well, each to his own.

I like these kinds of swaps, like an ae86 with a s2000 motor. Or how about a s2000 with a 2jzgte...talk about kicking the 50/50 weight split to the curb lol. I'm pretty interested with how this swap goes because the SR20DET is a strong platform and has a crazy torque curve. I wonder how much your weight distribution is going to change when its done and said, although I only picture it changing barely by how far you have the motor back....s14's have a 55/45 split and its not nearly as far back. Best of luck with the swap and definitely look for magazine support on this one.

+1 for the Px-8

Anyone ever heard of the word MODIFICATION!?!??! It means to Modify something to your liking. If the dude wants to change out his motor let him do so stop being such rotary fan boys. You are acting like the Rotary makes you so different, it doesn't, but what it does do to some people is it puts them on a high horse like they are driving something so different and spectacular. I love my RX-8 and I have never regretted getting it but if I was tech inclined as CMR doing something like this would be hella fun.


PS


I hate how people rant about something and then they end it with to each there own. (exactly like how I just did)

He posted a thread, therefore we have the right to state our opinions.

I am on my high Wankel horse and Love my Rotary, I wish it would fit into my bed...:crazy:

as i have said before im not doing this because it was just an idea i had, i just turned a bad situation into somthing tolerable and fun. and yes everyone is intitled to there opinions good or bad, but so far i have way way way more good post here than negative ones (woo hoo). and as soon as its done we are putting it on the corner scales to see how the weight dist. is. back to work

I'm just so sick of my renesis engine, so here's my new 13bre that's going to go in the RX8

Nice

Whats the status, there hasn't been an update from the previous post earlier this week...I'm excited for you bro! If you turn out to be anything like my buddy you will eat, sleep, and dream SR20DET's and what you can do to make more power.

well as of now were taking some time to get evrything cleaned up and making sure everything is going to be perfect so we dont have to take it all apart anymore. I am also having to do some research as far as the eps (electronic power steering) and how im going o manage to make it work. the fd rack i was thinking of using didnt pan out so great because of our fucnky tie rods so we used the stock setup. unfortunatly i have run into the problem of not having my pcm in the car anymore. from what i have learned the steering system gets input from a crank sensor and a speed sensor routed through the pcm. considering my old motor is now sold along with the wiring all i have is a pcm and a setback. so its either going to be extra trips to the gym to be able to steer or do some funky sensor wiring to make this thing work properly.....any ideas im open for them...

Yeah you definetely should get the stock wiring harness and just put the stock trigger wheel on the crank with the sensor and everything will work A OK.

Anyone Have A Stock Harness Laying Around?

I'm just so sick of my renesis engine, so here's my new 13bre that's going to go in the RX8

I like that kind of swap!
Myself if I was gong to change out the motor, I would have to go extreme upgrade and get the 20b. I've found them for $4500, probably cost $10k after its all done. Hey it costs $10k just for a 330+ rwhp turbo setup on our current motors.

Myself if I was gong to change out the motor, I would have to go extreme upgrade and get the 20b. I've found them for $4500, probably cost $10k after its all done.
No offense, Chris, but I don't think it could be done for any less than twice that.

I like that kind of swap!
Myself if I was gong to change out the motor, I would have to go extreme upgrade and get the 20b. I've found them for $4500, probably cost $10k after its all done. Hey it costs $10k just for a 330+ rwhp turbo setup on our current motors.

assuming you have all the associated tools, the swap will most likely be about 12-15k tops.

No offense, Chris, but I don't think it could be done for any less than twice that.

RX7store gave me a quote for $15k, remember I was telling you about that. That was total out the door. They may add some surprise costs in the end but thats what they quoted. When I said $10k I was thinking DIY and everything goes perfect.

The setup they Quote on is 557 rwhp at 14 psi on pump gas, and 700+ on 93 with high boost. Sounds like a SR20det, LS1, and most others killer to me. But cmr333, I assume you aren't dropping $15k on your setup

Nope Im Looki At Maybe 7500 Totally Done With Abou 380 To The Rear Wheels. And Getting 20 Mpg

RX7store gave me a quote for $15k, remember I was telling you about that. That was total out the door. They may add some surprise costs in the end but thats what they quoted. When I said $10k I was thinking DIY and everything goes perfect.

Yeah, I remember the conversation and I think I said the same thing then. The problem is not the swap or the cost of the motor. Its everything else that you WILL have to upgrade just to keep the car on the road. Cooling, fuel, tranny, rear diff, axels, ect, ect... I don't know for sure but I don't think those items were included in that quote. :dunno:

Yeah, I remember the conversation and I think I said the same thing then. The problem is not the swap or the cost of the motor. Its everything else that you WILL have to upgrade just to keep the car on the road. Cooling, fuel, tranny, rear diff, axels, ect, ect... I don't know for sure but I don't think those items were included in that quote. :dunno:

It comes with everything the motor will need to run including cooling and fuel setup. Here's the list...

Streetported and Rebuilt 20B Engine
Custom 20B Subframe
Custom Turbo kit (Turbo, Manifold, Wastegate, downpipe)
Microtech EMS
Custom Ignition system
Greddy Front Mount Intercooler, Modified Piping
Koyo Performance Radiator
Custom 4 inch full exhaust system
Custom Dual Oil Cooler Setup
Custom Fuel System with Dual Intank Fuel Pumps
Methanol Injection system
557 RWHP at 14lbs of boost. Will easily make 700 RWHP on high boost and pump gas.

But no tranny or rearend. Still a badass deal. I just don't want to do this much of a change to my car. Although it would be fun to spank my friends Mach 1 that makes 650 rwhp on a built SC'd motor, using a 2.0 liter. Not the same guy I mentioned with the 93, this guy passed the Turbo'd 93 GT when they hit 110 mph.

What about your driver train upgrades? I'm not so sure the RX8 transmission can hold those numbers, nor your differential. Just a thought although I honestly haven't looked into it but it sounds like an INSANE swap!

I like that kind of swap!
Myself if I was gong to change out the motor, I would have to go extreme upgrade and get the 20b. I've found them for $4500, probably cost $10k after its all done. Hey it costs $10k just for a 330+ rwhp turbo setup on our current motors.

Well I picked up the engine for 1450euros and cracked it opened and it had new rotor housings and seals and everything so it was a very good deal since I already have a haltech e6k and new 3mm apex seals from my previous rx7 fd. So I just need a need turbo(probably r85) intercooler wastegate and fuel parts, shouldn't come out to too much since I'm doing everything myself.:)

Anyone Have A Stock Harness Laying Around?

I might be able to find one but I don't know what the differences are with the euro spec rx8's

What about your driver train upgrades? I'm not so sure the RX8 transmission can hold those numbers, nor your differential. Just a thought although I honestly haven't looked into it but it sounds like an INSANE swap!

It might handle it if you never went above 3000 rpms, stayed out of full boost, and Granny shifted it, but who would ever be able to do that?:)

You could get the BHR rear end upgrades, and I don't know about fitment but couldn't you get an FD transmission?

:offtopic: lol

It is still about engine swaps...:spank:

Part of engine swaps is doing the other required changes with the engine which this isn't just a SR20DET swap....its also the transmission and custom drive shaft. The SR20DET is going to make about the same power the Renesis made to the wheels stock so the differential should be alright.

this is true....i plan on leaving the sr as stock as possible for now just so i can get used to the charicteristics of the car after all this has been done. the rear end will be fine for now but as with the 3 rotor swap when i get more power, a new rearend fuel and all that good stuff goes out for somthing that can handle it.

Nice, I'm sure you will love the SR way more due to the fact that is is better on gas and has a pretty strong torque curve. My buddy has a completely built s14 blacktop and is putting out 303 and around 295 f/lbs torque at 6,000 rpm with 15 lbs of boost on the factory turbo(15 lbs is the max flow). The issue is he didn't have any way of tuning it so he was detonating and couldn't get to the planned 7,500 rpm's he wanted. Hes going to pick up aem ems and could find some additional 40 or 50 hp out of his car. He has full boost at 2,500 rpm's and it pulls hard. Anyways Keep us posted and enjoy the SR!

One's of most problem with this engine is cant handle high boost with pump gas start get detonation at just 14 psi of boost, i think is better option go for 13B REW from cosmo with just 15 psi boost you got about 500 RWHP on pump gas with street ported ports. On 20b there's another story with just 14 psi you got about 689 RWHP on GT45r turbo on pumps gas and long reability mine runs about 4 years on the without any problems, Now this car is on 930 RWHP on pump gas and water/methanol injection system. and it still run in the streets like factory does.:)

Thats because Rotary is kick ass:worship:

Making 689-930 hp with a 2 liter, most other motors would have to be some track motor that you don't want to drive to work...

i agree that rgonza's 8 is friggin bad ass and not to be fu*%ed with. he has my respect hands down, but he gets like what 4.5 mpg lol gas is way not cheap. in the future though i plan on giving this sr the works in the way of turbo, engine manament, and massive fuel upgrades to make alot of ponies to have fun with. as for now i just cant wait to get my baby back so i can park my accord (beeter) lol

One's of most problem with this engine is cant handle high boost with pump gas start get detonation at just 14 psi of boost, i think is better option go for 13B REW from cosmo with just 15 psi boost you got about 500 RWHP on pump gas with street ported ports. On 20b there's another story with just 14 psi you got about 689 RWHP on GT45r turbo on pumps gas and long reability mine runs about 4 years on the without any problems, Now this car is on 930 RWHP on pump gas and water/methanol injection system. and it still run in the streets like factory does.:)

There are 13B's pushing more than 800whp. There are more out there pushing more out there but it's quite hard for a dyno to clock in the right numbers. You're in PR, i'm sure you know what i'm talking about :) .

i agree that rgonza's 8 is friggin bad ass and not to be fu*%ed with. he has my respect hands down, but he gets like what 4.5 mpg lol gas is way not cheap. in the future though i plan on giving this sr the works in the way of turbo, engine manament, and massive fuel upgrades to make alot of ponies to have fun with. as for now i just cant wait to get my baby back so i can park my accord (beeter) lol

4.5 mpg isn't much worse than a renesis stock:lol:

im going to try as hard as i can for now to utilize as many stock parts as i can for now mainly for budget reasons( im not rich)

I guess I helped fund a small part for you! Private investor checking in :D:

so now its all about grinding powder coat and setting up for the new fd rack, and custom tie rods, and ends. lol damn eps, i loved it when i had it and wanted to keep it....but with this kind of things sacrifices must be made to get somthing differant on the road and safe.:banghead: :)

this is true....i plan on leaving the sr as stock as possible for now just so i can get used to the charicteristics of the car after all this has been done. the rear end will be fine for now but as with the 3 rotor swap when i get more power, a new rearend fuel and all that good stuff goes out for somthing that can handle it.

I'm pretty sure the rx-8 rearend can handle an sr20.... it's not that powerful of an engine.

The turbo rx-8s aren't required to upgrade the rear end.

One's of most problem with this engine is cant handle high boost with pump gas start get detonation at just 14 psi of boost, i think is better option go for 13B REW from cosmo with just 15 psi boost you got about 500 RWHP on pump gas with street ported ports. On 20b there's another story with just 14 psi you got about 689 RWHP on GT45r turbo on pumps gas and long reability mine runs about 4 years on the without any problems, Now this car is on 930 RWHP on pump gas and water/methanol injection system. and it still run in the streets like factory does.:)

Listen to the master.............. His 8 is CRAZYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!
It was my inspiration...

What was the approx total cost to get the 20b setup done and streetable?
It is the ultimate upgrade!

well another big reason i can see going with the SR over a rotary, is becasue of knowledge.

its much easier to call up a nissan guy and say i can't figure out why its doing this and they say well you have to do this

but with the rotary it takes a specialized mechanic to work on it and a really expensive one if you want it to last, thats the reason why its cheaper to work on piston motors is because of knowledge, there is just alot more of it versus that of a rotary
i'm swapping my rotary out for a piston motor, becasue i want something familiar under my hood, and i don't have the money to blow on learing and experiminting with a whole different kind of machine.

now i love rotarys, and have tons of respect for the people who build them, but personly i don't know nearly enough about them to start makeing big power with them. but i have built several 300-400 hp SR's and several high power inline 6's
(RB's and 2J's)

Thats because Rotary is kick ass:worship:

Making 689-930 hp with a 2 liter, most other motors would have to be some track motor that you don't want to drive to work...


and i have driven a 800 hp 20b rx7 and i would not want ot drive it to work, i want somethin i can turn the boost down on and get 20 mpg but then crank it up when i see somthing i want to run

nice man, its a very good powerplant, 2 of my friends drive s13 with sr20 in them, even though one caught fire due to electrical wire spark, its still a great powerplant

well another big reason i can see going with the SR over a rotary, is becasue of knowledge.

its much easier to call up a nissan guy and say i can't figure out why its doing this and they say well you have to do this

but with the rotary it takes a specialized mechanic to work on it and a really expensive one if you want it to last, thats the reason why its cheaper to work on piston motors is because of knowledge, there is just alot more of it versus that of a rotary
i'm swapping my rotary out for a piston motor, becasue i want something familiar under my hood, and i don't have the money to blow on learing and experiminting with a whole different kind of machine.

now i love rotarys, and have tons of respect for the people who build them, but personly i don't know nearly enough about them to start makeing big power with them. but i have built several 300-400 hp SR's and several high power inline 6's
(RB's and 2J's)


+1 plus here in jax rotary tuners are none existant

ok quick update..new steering shaft will be here midweek then hopefully we can make somthing happen lol.

Do you need a spare flux capacitor?

In jacksonville your not all that far from Mazsport. From Jax to Tampa is 4 hours isnt it? Thats not that bad...

Do you need a spare flux capacitor?
lol and a partrige in a pear tree..

Sound like a good build! Good luck

How do you plan to deal with the CAN Bus that controls pretty much the whole car electronics?

well from the way everything seems to be most of everything that i plan on keeping is on its own wiring network and if it is not i will make it that way.

Sweet, so are you keeping the rx8 rack then?

nope the rx8 rack is history.. i have had a custom one of a kind steering shaft made to adapt my column to a full manual fd rack.

so, you don't have power steering any more, correct?

correct untill i come up with a very small pump and custom make lines wo adapt the sr to the new rack. i plan on doing this soon enough but for now the fd rack unpowered is actually rather pleasant from what ive experianced in the past.

uhhh why go sr20 when you can get 6 cylinder with the same displacement in the rb20?....sr20 for the lose...

why get a piston engine, when you have a car that a rotary engine will bolt right into, the car is even designed for a rotary engine! as a matter of fact, it is the only car in the world that is sold with a rotary engine already in it!!!

High CoG is very bad for handling!

WELL i went with the sr over an rb mainly for weight and size differance..even though the two engines share the same displacment the rb is still much bigger than the sr. not to mention the sr is supported way more by the aftermarket and is way more user freindly to me, im not trying to build a dyno queen here. as far as why i didnt put in another rotary i have gone over that many times in this thread.

well jus a lil update for those paying attention, i have slowed down on this project due to budget reasons ( moving, bills,my job etc) but hopefully i will be back on track here very soon. as soon as she is back on the ground i will continue posting.

It makes sense to me for a few reasons, 1 because i can, 2 because my renny died with no waranty and i wasnt about to spend more money just to have a stock problimatic power plant. so i can deal with the sacrifices i have made. plus the 8 looks and drives way way way better than a 240.

i wish someone told me that before... i already have a brand new runnign remans but im lacking desirable power. i refuse to boost the rotary again. im stuck between selling the 8 and changing cars or doing an engine swap...... which means i wasted like 4g on putting back the remans when i sholda just swapped a new engine. so many bad choices in my life.. hahaha

i like the idea of you engine swap.. just curious what tranny are you using i dont know much but i believe there is a 5 n 6 speed tranny? also are you doign any internal work? for your 435 goal is the tranny/ motor strong enough to handle that kind of power? (or after market parts required)

i wish someone told me that before... i already have a brand new runnign remans but im lacking desirable power. i refuse to boost the rotary again. im stuck between selling the 8 and changing cars or doing an engine swap...... which means i wasted like 4g on putting back the remans when i sholda just swapped a new engine. so many bad choices in my life.. hahaha

i like the idea of you engine swap.. just curious what tranny are you using i dont know much but i believe there is a 5 n 6 speed tranny? also are you doign any internal work? for your 435 goal is the tranny/ motor strong enough to handle that kind of power? (or after market parts required)

get a turbo kit and do it right this time?

The RX-8 is so perfect, it has it's problems, but the actual design is really good.

This whole thing is just disgusting.

bump for me i havent given up just taking a lil break

and another

BUMPer is in Seattle :)

Quite interested in seeing if there is any performance advantage over just putting in the MazdaManic Greddy turbo upgrade for our rotary engine. Please do a dyno when you finish. The comparison would be very interesting.

Quite interested in seeing if there is any performance advantage over just putting in the MazdaManic Greddy turbo upgrade for our rotary engine. Please do a dyno when you finish. The comparison would be very interesting.

Agreed but I still am a fan of the SR and the REN so I'm excited to see results of any sort!

i will post up slips for sure. just keep in mind that the only real performance mods im starting with are pretty basic. were doing a full custom 2.5" exhaust that is going to be almost straight through, acompanied by 2.5" charge pipes mated to a srt4 intercooler toped off with a greddy type s bov. no ac compressor and now pws pump. a apex i super afc, hi flow fuel pump( not sure what to buy yet) with all hi flow stainless lines, and i wide band to tune it as much as possible in its stock form. the ecu has been reflashed by central 20 racing and is kind of a pain in my ass because i cant get any specs on it. It came with the engine so im going to use it and see what comes out of it. were hoping that my base whp is some where aroung 210 to 225. im not going to have this thing pushing retarded numbers till we get it driving again to work out all the inevitable kinks that are going to come up. none the less i will post up sopme slips.

Quite interested in seeing if there is any performance advantage over just putting in the MazdaManic Greddy turbo upgrade for our rotary engine. Please do a dyno when you finish. The comparison would be very interesting.

There is actually a large performance disadvantage by using a sr20det as opposed to a MazdaManiac Greddy setup. First, the turbo'd renesis is more powerful and second, the sr20det car is going to handle a good bit more shitely.

We shall see. im not saying that it will be better or worse but only a dyno run and a track day will prove that.

ok things look like they are finally getting back into motion. i should be able to get it back to my shop by mid week next week. also i just ditched the safc and got a hell of a deal on a greddy e manage unit and a profec Eo1 to take care of all the boosted goodness. pictures to come soon so stay tuned

Was AEM EMS an option for you?

it is in the future but for now i just got a both of these for less than 500$ and i took them out of a running car. I dont need a stand alone just yet. it is a toss up though between hks aem and apex i.

Aem for the win, my buddy's a tuner and absolutely loves the thing. The other are more of fuel and ignition adjusters with gauges...Good luck and post some pictures because I love what you doing dude! If I didn't live in Maryland I would do this also if my engine blew up just because it hasn't been done. Id love to put a sr20det in a fd3s also lol.

Yeah Im Goin To Start Posting Vids As Soon As It It Starts For The First Time . Were Close And I Cant Wait.

d00d, just run some carbs. EFI is as stupid as using a rotary engine...

Are You Kidding And Spend Money On Gas...i Have A Couple Of Hamsters Jacked Up On Redbull For My New Hp Upgrade.

hey man glad to see things are still going well...let me know when you get her up and running i may have to take a trip down to JA to check it out...oh by the way the tranny is still working flawlessly...thanks again man...can i officially say i helped fund this project???

glad to hear the trans is doing good for you and yep you definatly made a contribution to this build.

are you almost done?

yea man lemme know what the deal is too!

There is actually a large performance disadvantage by using a sr20det as opposed to a MazdaManiac Greddy setup. First, the turbo'd renesis is more powerful and second, the sr20det car is going to handle a good bit more shitely.

I agree with this statement, this engine swap seems to be a laterly movement instead of trying to improve the car. to each is their pwn.

were moving along with things for now, i just finished mounting the eo1 and found a home for the emanage in the glove box. as soon as the subframe goes back in ill post pics and then i will finally after all these months be able to finish this damn car and get all my bodywork done. im going to try and make my first apearance with this bastard of a car from what many have called it in orlando at hin.

Cool man. keep it up.
No susch thing as a bastard of a car. There are cars, and there are bastards that drive 'em.

As for the this project:
It is a work of an artist. Who gives a crap what others think?

:)

great job dude. major props.

:beer: Cool man. keep it up.
No susch thing as a bastard of a car. There are cars, and there are bastards that drive 'em.

As for the this project:
It is a work of an artist. Who gives a crap what others think?

:)

cheers to that. when i get this thing on the road again i need to see the remote turbo in action, and have some drinks down south.

la la la bump for a work in progress

LOL
Be care full what you wish for :beerchug:
I am not volunteering to be a dedicated driver :lol2: :lol2:

yeah same here, drive have fun party then ummm maybe my g/f will drive lol

Dude, why do you keep bumping your thread without giving new info? Looking for a pat on the back or some sort of self realization? Just weird.

just keeping things up till im done and trying to let everyone know im actually doing this instead of just leading people along like the 2jz swap thread. im doing this for real.

cool beans... i used to have a gtir motor for a g20.. itb's and turbo from the factory... one of the best sr20det's out there

I miss my sr20det black top in my 240 vert.....damn it

nope the rx8 rack is history.. i have had a custom one of a kind steering shaft made to adapt my column to a full manual fd rack.

Manual FD rack sounds sweet! I want one for my 8.
Good luck with the build...

i will have some pretty cool pics posted up here in the next few days...its getting closer

Ok good news! i got my bar back from the race shop last night with my custom subframe in and complete, woo hoo! i still have alot to with wiring and building my exhaust and charge pipes and all but the major pain in the ass is over. i will post up pics later today. we did manage to keep the eps steering system though, i will explain that in more detail in the coming days.

here some pics of the newley modified subframe, motor mounts, and the eps rack. i dont really have time now to get to detailed but i will later. heres some pics for now.:)

Buy alot of lottery tickets and put some twin turbos on this bad boy!!!

Buy alot of lottery tickets and put some twin turbos on this bad boy!!!

all the fast guys just use one small turbo per cylinder, it's way more efficient that way.

nice new pics of the motor...sr20 are boost whores. Love them very much. I did that swap into my nx2000 but it was FWD. Still kicked major *ss.

all the fast guys just use one small turbo per cylinder, it's way more efficient that way.
lol sweet

I am looking foward to hear about your project. Good luck.

I am very interested to hear how much of a headache the eps wiring is. As I will have to go through the same thing
and that sucks you had to make a custom subframe. Just curiouse but how much did that cost you. I prolly would have done a rear sump oil pan

well i cant say how much i paid for the custom subframe but i would expect to pay 5k or more if i had to get it done wit out knowing the right people. as for the eps wiring i have an electrical guru that is going to make it all work. just curious but what are you having to redo yours for?

here some pics of the newley modified subframe, motor mounts, and the eps rack. i dont really have time now to get to detailed but i will later. heres some pics for now.:)

That is supppppper sweet man, How much longer do you think till its done?

im thinkin about 3 weeks or so till im driving it.

I might have to modify my subframe but I will do it myself. I work on cars for a living so there is no way on earth I'll be paying someone 5k for for some fab and welding work

But anyways I'm doing a 2j swap in my car
I haven't posted it yet cuz I have no I idea how much longer it will tale me cuz I'm waiting on parts and money for parts.

hmm sounds interesting. the biggest problem you will run ito will most definatly be steering. my rack has been moved forward about 4 1/2" and that is with the engine being moved back as far as possible while having enough room to be able to squeeze my hand between the firewall and the back of the engine. you will definatly have to mod the subframe to put that beast in an 8 mainly because it is made specificly for a rotary and nothing else heres a teaser pic of the underside just to give you an idea.

well the Sr only comes in front sump oil pans, but a couple companys make rear sump setups for swaps such as the miata and for drag setups, but the MKIV supra 2jz has a rear sump factory. i got an aristo motor as they are much morte common so i will have to get a supra oil pan and sump setup, but that gives the motor room to go over the steering rack.
i do have to lower and push it forward while twisting it a bit to get it to fit but i won't have to make a custom subframe like yours, all i have to do is modify for the steering rack mounts and motor mounts

i would be very interested in talking to the guy doing your wireing, i may evebn send my harness to him to let him do it if he is not willing to tell me how he did it. i usually do my own wireing but that would save me aloto of headache
as of now i am planning on using the abs wheel speed sensors to run the eps. i hav already isolated the RX8 harness and relocated the ABS module and moved the ecu to the inside of the car

do you have a number i can reach him at

NP:cool:

NO DOUBT. glad i have people in the comunity behind me on this...thanks guys

I might have to modify my subframe but I will do it myself. I work on cars for a living so there is no way on earth I'll be paying someone 5k for for some fab and welding work

But anyways I'm doing a 2j swap in my car
I haven't posted it yet cuz I have no I idea how much longer it will tale me cuz I'm waiting on parts and money for parts.

Don't do it! The only good reason cmr333 has for this swap is that it would be cheaper to use a sr20det motor instead of rebuilding his renesis. I'm not sure how he managed this though.

You'll be much better off by shedding some ignorance and learning about the rotary engine and how to go about turbocharging it.

Don't do it! The only good reason cmr333 has for this swap is that it would be cheaper to use a sr20det motor instead of rebuilding his renesis. I'm not sure how he managed this though.

You'll be much better off by shedding some ignorance and learning about the rotary engine and how to go about turbocharging it.


well i tried turbo charging and that didn't last very long, i wasn't about to dump a bunch of money into another motor i knew nothing about, i lamost did the rew swap but i just don't know enough about the rotarys. i never would have bought the car but it was my wifes before we got married and i have it now. but i have driven supras and 2j SC300's and the RX8 feels so much smoother and stable. i know thats going to change a little with a bigger motor up front but i'm pretty sure it won't be that much different. and i need horspower. i have really gotten into drifting and it was just to hard having to keep the revs up on the renesis.
i drove a couple 2j s2000 and other than the extremly short wheel base it was amazing. i really thing the control will only increase in the rx8

also i'm doing my 2j swap for less than cmr333's SR
i'm doing all the work myself, and it helps that i work for toyota
once its finished or at least closer to completion i will post pics and a complete build cost list. but enough thread hijacking,

back on topic, i only posted here to give props and to ask questions about certain aspects of his swap
any info on the eps would be great

As Soon As I Get To Hooking It All Up I Will Let You Kow Some Secrets

Oh Yeah And Just For S.a.g I Only Have A Total Of 5k Spent So Far And Thats In Cluding The E01 , Emanage, ENGINE AND ALL THE OTHER PARTS TO.

Thank you, I am looking foward hearing about it.

As Soon As I Get To Hooking It All Up I Will Let You Kow Some Secrets

anyone have a wideband they wanna get rid of for a good price? lol

ok so i just finished welding my charge pipes up, i will post up pics tonight. anyone have any idea on what the ohm range is on our fuel sending unit?

they are not painted yet but heres an idea of what sr20 charge pipes look like in an 8. i had to do some things on the tight side because we have to sqeeze in a custom rad. and fans. every thing is goin to be powdercoated black.

So Does Anyone Kow If I Can Use An Abs Wheel Speed Sensor To Make An Autometer Elctric Speedo Work?

you should be able to, with a signal converter you should be able to get the stock one to work

anyone have a wideband they wanna get rid of for a good price? lol

I have a friend selling an AEM UEGO wideband with sensor for cheap. PM me if you're interested.

nice looking intercooler. where is it from?

Its From My Buddys Srt4

ok i should know this but i do not, what is the liter per hour rate that our fuel pump pumps out? also what is the max pressure it puts out. i am wondering how much i have to play with..

My God I can't read that first post.

yeah its a lil lengthy but i had to get things started

Oh Boy Oh Boy Wiring Starts Tomorow.

so do you have any details on the eps yet

i just got my car up to my work and sat my motor in today
i might start a thread on it later today

but if you want to talk about the eps you can call me at 850 240 0572, just leave a voicmail if i don't answer and i'll get back to ya

Are You The Same Guy Doing All The 2j's In The S2k's?

no, thats brian proctor who was going to originally do this swap as i did not have the time or knowledge of the 2jz at the time, but he screwed me out of $6500 and some parts.
anyways, now i work at a toyota dealership and they are letting me do the car up there
i live in MS now, but i did live in Fl, thats why i have the 850 are code

thats cool. i have heard a few bad things baout that guy, and he messed up my buddys s2k as well. I actually have a guy that is going to be doing the eps wiring for me, he is a electrical friggin guru from what i have seen. if it would help i can send you the mazda shematic on the eps sys. from mazda. btw if you could do me a big fav. pull out a multi meter and check the ohm load for the fuel sending unit. empty and full. i need to order a fuel level gauge and i dont know what to order.

i would but my rx8's harness is out and i have now way of testing that

and yeah that would be awsome

well i have been slammed at work here latley and i havent had any time really to do anything to the car, gotaa make the money first. im hoping for about 3 weeks till im burnin tires

i love this idea, its a small, lighter engine that keeps the 8 still an 8. Plus 250 hp will come very quick on the sr20det

good luck and dont listen to the haters, espeically whoever said u need an LS1 in it

ok so damn i have hit a wall it seems with a bad business deal. i am short alot of parts that were promised to me to get this project done in a timley manner. i am going to post up a thread detailing what has to be done and parts that must be sourced out . i need opinions suggestions and help.

Hey CMR33. How about a meet. Im sure lots of people in FL would like to see your car and mine in the same place. My car is ruuning but I do have some upgrades to do so we have time to finish both cars. I guess we can go half north and half south and meet someplace. What you think??
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/angeljoelv/DSC06133.jpg

turbo 20b in the house!

orlando is always good....as soon as this thing is done im gonna be logging alot of miles as much as i can...i havent been able to drive it in like 7 months...i miss my baby

ok for those that are still paying attention im getting over the wall that i came to and moving forward. this whole thing has drug out way longer than i ever anticipated and im on the home stretch. wish me luck and i will be posting new pics and some vids in the coming weeks or days hopfully. i want my car running before the 2jz rx8 fires up lol.

Quit checking online, and get it done.... Pics, vids, DIY, asap

Orlando sounds good..

hey hows it going, any updates, i'll be updating my thread with new pics today
but i just thought i would let you know, in case you didn't, we won't be able to park next to each other at Nopi Nats. It got cancled on the 16th. if you know of any good shows in october in north florida or GA or near by. i'll definately be going, i will prolly debut mine at HIN Dallas, its about an 8 hour drive from me, but thats where my sponsors are at anyway, and would really like to show them the car in person, possible get them to tune the car

im waiting on my driveshaft , radiator and a few wiring things plus my starter. when they get here im in business. sponsors huh? i need some of those in a bad kinda way this shit is exspensive.

im waiting on my driveshaft , radiator and a few wiring things plus my starter. when they get here im in business. sponsors huh? i need some of those in a bad kinda way this shit is exspensive.

Did you go over your budget? I thought you had everything priced out already, before you started the project.