My car has 4k kms (06 GT 6MT) on it and I'm wondering if it would be detrimental to put a FI kit on it because of the low millage?

I'm sure I will get a lot of different answers, but I'm just looking for some recommendations from some ppl with experience on the subject.

My car has 4k kms (06 GT 6MT) on it and I'm wondering if it would be detrimental to put a FI kit on it because of the low millage?

I'm sure I will get a lot of different answers, but I'm just looking for some recommendations from some ppl with experience on the subject.

Only issue I know of is.............bye-bye warranty, but if you got the cash then you can afford to do what you want.

Yeah I'm not too worried about the warranty of the power train, as long as its tuned properly it won't make too much of a difference.

I'm just don't want some issues with the motor to show up after I put on the kit on (ones that would have shown up even if it wasn't turboed)

Well, the thing is that, you already *paid* for your warranty.

Many people here could afford to go FI, but most just want to enjoy what they paid for.

if you dont care, you can make your move as soon as today(or tomorrow), theres some decent kits out already

i have just ordered to be a member of the dark side, took me almost 4 yrs to make up my mind
olddragger

i have just ordered to be a member of the dark side, took me almost 4 yrs to make up my mind
olddragger

Oh shit.........I've only been thinking of it everyday for the last 5 months and actually had the appoinment for the S/C, but backed out do to just a few small issues......one being the warranty. Look at the "mods I regret thread" and you'll see my sorry ass there! :banghead:
I could be right behind you and almost sent my deposit in today. If I go with Bastage, Juan, and Munchie tomorrow and video them, I know it's gonna put me over the edge!

3 months 2 weeks and 5 days

3 months 2 weeks and 5 days

Thinking about it.......or until you get it?

no - just answering willicuddy's question . He wanted a precise answer didn't he ?

the responsible answer is to wait at least 20-30k miles to make sure warranty issues are covered, in case your car has any defects.

but, waiting is difficult to do :)

Oh shit.........I've only been thinking of it everyday for the last 5 months and actually had the appoinment for the S/C, but backed out do to just a few small issues......one being the warranty. Look at the "mods I regret thread" and you'll see my sorry ass there! :banghead:
I could be right behind you and almost sent my deposit in today. If I go with Bastage, Juan, and Munchie tomorrow and video them, I know it's gonna put me over the edge!

Bastage and juan can't make it plus I thought it was next week.

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=126245

If you want I'm still going up next week. I would say we could swing by Pettit but they are leavig Friday morning to SSX. Let me know.

And not to thread jack I got my S/C 3 weeks after I got the car.

the responsible answer is to wait at least 20-30k miles to make sure warranty issues are covered, in case your car has any defects.

but, waiting is difficult to do :)

True................very true...........I'm trying to wait!

Brettus.................oh, my bad............sorry about that.

+1 what mysql101 said. I had a little under 18,000 miles on the car when I went FI. Felt pretty confident that I got a good one, and have been smiling almost non-stop every since. Going to pass 3,000 miles with FI today.

I waited 32k miles. car has 45.5k now.

Actually my friends mechanic said that turboing RX8 is a real bad idea.
RX8 + boost = boom :nono:
yeah. really. that's what i heard....
I am not kidding. you should stay away from FI on 8.
Do you think mazda is wouldn't put a turbo on their car if it was possible?

he he.
Got ya there with my :icon_bs: didn't I? :lol2:

FI-ed my car at 200 miles.... hehehe

I have 3000 now, no issues except normal BS.

lol, this thread is golden. It's like some junkies waiting for their next fix. :)

I say, if your willing to throw the dice on the warranty issue, then go for it sooner then later. You will enjoy the car much more with FI.

Good luck on whatever you choose.

Richard Paul had an interesting take on this once. He said the best time to FI your car is EARLY on in it's life. It's when the car is (usually) most reliable, your'e still thrilled to have a new car, it looks great (paint, dings, etc) so ENJOY the crap out of it them before any of that changes.
We never know how long we'll have our cars (by our choice or accident) so do it while you can. In other words; now.

Richard Paul had an interesting take on this once. He said the best time to FI your car is EARLY on in it's life. It's when the car is (usually) most reliable, your'e still thrilled to have a new car, it looks great (paint, dings, etc) so ENJOY the crap out of it them before any of that changes.
We never know how long we'll have our cars (by our choice or accident) so do it while you can. In other words; now.

Well.....that does make a lot of sense when you boil it all down. Hmmmmmmmm

^^^ What I did, I never even drove it NA. I loved the car, but knew the power would bug me... so I fixed it.

Richard Paul had an interesting take on this once. He said the best time to FI your car is EARLY on in it's life. It's when the car is (usually) most reliable, your'e still thrilled to have a new car, it looks great (paint, dings, etc) so ENJOY the crap out of it them before any of that changes.
We never know how long we'll have our cars (by our choice or accident) so do it while you can. In other words; now.

the thing is, you paid thousands for a warranty - and if you go FI, you effectively lose it. Additionally, you don't know if you have one of the rouge cars with engine or transmission issues. Which will only add to your costs when you have to pay out of pocket.

true but those "rogue" cars are the minority. I see your point though.

FI-ed my car at 200 miles.... hehehe

I have 3000 now, no issues except normal BS.

This personally scares me, but hey I'm glad someone did it! Now if spring(And my bank account) would hurry up and get here..

If you are willing to toss the warranty out the window I would say do a through break in under stock power and trim while doing a couple oil changes. After a good break in go for it. $.02

If it is good enough for factory TC cars.... it is good enough for me. IMO, the point of breaking the engine in is to allow it to "fit" into it's new home. So why not break it in using the system it will be running with? All warranty issues aside.

If it is good enough for factory TC cars.... it is good enough for me. IMO, the point of breaking the engine in is to allow it to "fit" into it's new home. So why not break it in using the system it will be running with? All warranty issues aside.

I go back and forth on this issue and I guess ti boils down to personal preference. MY big objection (if it were my own car in question) would be that factory tc cars are engineered and fitted with specific specs and tolerances knowing the car has a factory fitted turbo, and our car does not. It is toleranced and clearanced for a certain level of power. It being my car I would do a N/A break in, put on the F/I system then do a second break in because I do belive that you are right in that it will need further adjustment and "wearing in". Thats just me though. After putting 50, 60, 75K miles on the car if either of our cars were to fail even with exactly the same setups and miles under boost, you couldn't point to break-in or lack of break in before adding the system to a point of failure either way. Basically just do what you feel comfortable with.

Yeah, I can see both sides.

This has actually turned into an interesting discussion , much to my surprise. I'm gunna say you are all right - but wait - that makes me right as well .
Jeez its boring to be right all the time :)

correct. This thread had potential to go way south but I'm glad it's doing well so far.

We could throw a wrench in the system and start the, "Now that you're going FI...Supercharger or Turbo?" :rofl:

the thing is, you paid thousands for a warranty - and if you go FI, you effectively lose it. Additionally, you don't know if you have one of the rouge cars with engine or transmission issues. Which will only add to your costs when you have to pay out of pocket.

Yeah this is what im trying to work my head around. I don't want to get everything installed and then find out I have some weak component from the factory that is just about to go south on me or some other BS like that.

But no point in worrying about something that hasn't happened yet, right?

correct. This thread had potential to go way south but I'm glad it's doing well so far.

We could throw a wrench in the system and start the, "Now that you're going FI...Supercharger or Turbo?" :rofl:

Ive already made my decision on which route to go.

But thats between me and my car ;)

-_-

I just can't understand all of the posts that say "bye bye warranty". You wouldn't actually take your car to the dealership with the turbo installed, would you?

The answer is simple. If the car breaks down, tow it to your house first. Take off the turbo, put the car back to stock, then tow it to the dealership. Done.

In reality, a turbo means "bye bye warranty for little junk that isn't a big deal, but if the engine blows you are still covered". I wouldn't take the car in for routine maintenance to the dealership, but its nice to know that if you blow the engine or tranny, they have no idea that you went FI.

Call it unethical, but are you really worried about those scumbag dealerships anyway?

I guess its hard for people to understand if they don't do their own installations, but if you can operate a hand tool, your warranty is fine. Just remember that if you have to alter something that is stock (like hoses, wires, plastic junk), buy a replacement to keep on hand to swap back on if something goes wrong.

I guess I could be wrong if the PCM records manifold pressure and reports it to the dealer, and since I'm new to the RX8, who knows.

i do the reverse. bring it to the dealership for anything they should be covering, though transmission and engine issues are off limits due to the turbo. it's an accepted risk when turbocharging.

i do the reverse. bring it to the dealership for anything they should be covering, though transmission and engine issues are off limits due to the turbo. it's an accepted risk when turbocharging.

I agree . Anyone who does this to the car while it is still under warranty is taking the risk that something won't be covered . They should accept that as the price for increased enjoyment of their ride .

I just can't understand all of the posts that say "bye bye warranty". You wouldn't actually take your car to the dealership with the turbo installed, would you?

The answer is simple. If the car breaks down, tow it to your house first. Take off the turbo, put the car back to stock, then tow it to the dealership. Done.

In reality, a turbo means "bye bye warranty for little junk that isn't a big deal, but if the engine blows you are still covered". I wouldn't take the car in for routine maintenance to the dealership, but its nice to know that if you blow the engine or tranny, they have no idea that you went FI.

Call it unethical, but are you really worried about those scumbag dealerships anyway?

I guess its hard for people to understand if they don't do their own installations, but if you can operate a hand tool, your warranty is fine. Just remember that if you have to alter something that is stock (like hoses, wires, plastic junk), buy a replacement to keep on hand to swap back on if something goes wrong.

I guess I could be wrong if the PCM records manifold pressure and reports it to the dealer, and since I'm new to the RX8, who knows.

I agree with you on this one and I would do the exact same thing if my engine/tranny ever blew.

I do my own routine maintenance anyways, so the only reason I would take it back to the dealership is for a warranty issue.

But what happens if your stereo, headlamps, or something else like that went on you. It sure would be a pain in the arse to take your turbo off and get them to replace the parts.

Lets just hope I didn't buy a lemon ;)

Call it unethical, but are you really worried about those scumbag dealerships anyway?


Are you that dense as to think the dealership foots the bill for warranty work? :icon_no2:

Are you that dense as to think the dealership foots the bill for warranty work? :icon_no2:

Lol, that was a bit harsh. No, I know that Mazda covers the warranty work.

I agree with the other guys- you are right, it does make it a hassle when little stuff goes wrong, because you have to decide if its worth it to you to take all the stuff off to get stuff it fixed. Going FI has its trade-offs.

My point is just that the FI doesn't automatically void the warranty as long as you are willing to put the time and effort (and hassle) into playing the game.