View Full Version : tiburon confirmed to be rwd


playdoh43
07-31-2007, 10:52 AM
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/07/30/confirmed-hyundai-making-tiburon-replacement-rwd/

thumbs up if its anything like the silvia

XDEEDUBBX
07-31-2007, 10:55 AM
very interesting, over the years the tiburon has been looking much better. not that I have a soft spot for korean cars but the tiburon isn't that bad...

dynamho
07-31-2007, 11:30 AM
I like the part about the boosted V6.

supergoat
07-31-2007, 11:34 AM
That is actually very cool.

dillsrotary
07-31-2007, 11:44 AM
They are going to sell tons of these, hyundai just struck gold I believe.

saturn
07-31-2007, 12:17 PM
They are going to sell tons of these, hyundai just struck gold I believe.

People have been clamoring for a cheap RWD car for years now. I personally believe most people are all talk in this area and would much rather pony up a few extra thousand to get more refinement/performance. Guess we'll finally get to see what happens.

DailyDriver2k5
07-31-2007, 12:22 PM
Good for Hyundai... but did you notice that it will probally be coming out a half year later than the new sedan that suppose to debut a year later from now. So where talking probally a mid '09 release date. By that time the new Tiburon will have alot of stiff competition.

By that time the new 370Z should be out, the new Camaro will be out, new STI ,EVO , refreshed Mustang, will be out. Cars that will be in the mid 20-35k range , all that will probally toating well over 330HP/300TRQ+ under there hoods.

A 300 HP Tiburon could be competitive , if and only if , if its lite weight, which would be a stretch now that cars are packing on the pounds . Or if they offer a boosted V6 which you the consumer could tune and mod.

I fear 300HP in the next few years will be the late '90's 200HP. Where every car will have 300HP as a standard or close to it. But the achillies hill is that these cars will be porkers packing 3500lbs+ range. So really that 300HP becomes useless and watered down. The only thing that can save these obese cars if they come with massive torque to move that heft around. But haven't seen that yet with the lower end market of American/Euro /Japanese cars, except in the Euro cruise missles a.k.a E63, M5, S6, etc....

Everything else is just gainging the pounds yearly and not offsetting it with a high output motor to move that heft around.

Hyundai needs to keep the weight down or the car next Tiburon will be a RWD hefty coupe that performs ok for the money.

XDEEDUBBX
07-31-2007, 12:27 PM
all this talk about hp, my car still doesn't break the 200 whp mark =(

DailyDriver2k5
07-31-2007, 12:51 PM
all this talk about hp, my car still doesn't break the 200 whp mark =(

Yeah but your car and our cars are lite compared to alot of the cars out there with 100+HP more and that is toating 500-800lbs more weight, making our cars still competitive and effective against them.

Million dollar question.... will the Tiburon be?

dmorales
07-31-2007, 01:15 PM
Boy are we going to hear about it when people start putting down high 13 second passes in their Tiburons...
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RojoOcho
07-31-2007, 01:29 PM
We'll see...

lesper4
07-31-2007, 01:30 PM
cant wait to see the finish product, they remind me of a "big lots" sport car

Tessai
07-31-2007, 01:34 PM
I'm excited about this. Sure, the new Camaro and the 370z and the STI/EVO and all that jazz will be out.. but the Tiburon will most likely cost $10k cheaper.

Besides, as much as Autoblog keeps going on about a V6... the engine bay photos show a turbo 4. Perhaps the car will base with a turbo 4 and have a V6 option... much like the 1.8t/VR6 choice for VW's a few years back.

Although I'd much rather Mazda made the Kabura... I'm looking forward to more news about this new Tibby.

alfy28
07-31-2007, 01:42 PM
all this talk about hp, my car still doesn't break the 200 whp mark =(
its because your car is not JDM enough. you have to add like these jdm type stickers to even get over 200whp. i thought you knew this already . wtf :)

as for the tibby. nice to see tibby getting love .

Jedi54
07-31-2007, 01:45 PM
I keep telling XdeedubbX that Carbon Fiber fender strakes would help wind resistance and increase HP. :D:

Glad they're finally going RWD on this thing, should be the death of the Eclipse when it comes out.

Spin9k
07-31-2007, 01:55 PM
Just to keep persepective... Read this review http://autospeed.drive.com.au/cms/A_108986/article.html of the current car.

This is where they are coming from, and obviously they realize a number of the current offerings shortcomings, or they wouldn't be changing the car so much. Still, it is a Hyundai, and they have to work with the knowledge, platforms and equipment they have; which from a sports car perspective the review shows is pretty much limited to the sporty styling, not sports car DNA and substance.

I wish them good luck, but with low expectations of the final result.

tiggerlee
07-31-2007, 01:57 PM
I keep telling XdeedubbX that Carbon Fiber fender strakes would help wind resistance and increase HP. :D:

Glad they're finally going RWD on this thing, should be the death of the Eclipse when it comes out.



I thought the Eclipse was already dead. :)

playdoh43
07-31-2007, 02:27 PM
i wouldnt be surprised if the 4g eclipse is outselling the rx8 and crossfire combine.

playdoh43
07-31-2007, 02:39 PM
and the pic looks like a turbo I4, not a v6

Spinning Sushi
07-31-2007, 02:47 PM
Man, I hope I don't see people going around saying "I LOVE MY KDM"

I'm sick and tired of people saying "OMG! THAT'S SO JDM" and such....

alfy28
07-31-2007, 02:49 PM
Man, I hope I don't see people going around saying "I LOVE MY KDM"

I'm sick and tired of people saying "OMG! THAT'S SO JDM" and such....
dude your so JDM bra :)

tjbourgoyne
07-31-2007, 03:02 PM
This car will be a fatty pants that rides like a rickety ship.

m477
07-31-2007, 08:46 PM
rwd platform that the company recently developed for its Genesis luxury sedan

Well, there goes any hope that it will be lightweight. Basically it will be a Korean Camaro.

delhi
07-31-2007, 09:14 PM
Well, there goes any hope that it will be lightweight. Basically it will be a Korean Camaro.

But that's what North American likes! Lots of hp on paper. Forget about weight, balance & cohesiveness. :) It will sell!

playdoh43
07-31-2007, 10:00 PM
actually north america dosnt even like coupes or care much for rwd to begin with. even the best selling coupes' sales numbers are very small compared to what american people actually like, big floaty sofas on wheels :)

then theres like these enthusiasts who are like what? 5% of the population? always crying out for an affordable rwd sport coupe, then when it comes out, few can actually afford one, or isnt in a financial situation to get one, next thing you know harsh reality hits and it dosnt sell well and its discontinued. sounds like the story of 240sx :)

DailyDriver2k5
08-01-2007, 06:48 AM
actually north america dosnt even like coupes or care much for rwd to begin with. even the best selling coupes' sales numbers are very small compared to what american people actually like, big floaty sofas on wheels :)

then theres like these enthusiasts who are like what? 5% of the population? always crying out for an affordable rwd sport coupe, then when it comes out, few can actually afford one, or isnt in a financial situation to get one, next thing you know harsh reality hits and it dosnt sell well and its discontinued. sounds like the story of 240sx :)

So true.... its sad to see the rwd coupe doesn't get the proper respect and love it deserves on these shores. Because of it we missed some great coupes from across the pond like the S15 Silvia:Eyecrazy: ...what a beautiful lightweight car that makes outsanding power for the money. If that car was out here in the states, it would take a huge chunk out of sales from alot performance car under that 35k price bracket.

Everybody had there fingers cross in the Nissan community , including me when Nissan said they were going to bring us a sport coupe for this year, unfortunately it didn't come with a Silvia badge and RWD. Instead they gave us hopped up bloated Altima in coupe form....yawn.:icon_no2: :puke:

faboo
08-01-2007, 12:08 PM
Just to keep persepective... Read this review http://autospeed.drive.com.au/cms/A_108986/article.html of the current car.

This is where they are coming from, and obviously they realize a number of the current offerings shortcomings, or they wouldn't be changing the car so much. Still, it is a Hyundai, and they have to work with the knowledge, platforms and equipment they have; which from a sports car perspective the review shows is pretty much limited to the sporty styling, not sports car DNA and substance.

I wish them good luck, but with low expectations of the final result.

My GF has an 06 tib v6 auto... that review while being for the 07 manual or whatever is overly harsh in their review... it is quite enjoyable to drive actually...i agree with them about driving the car about 7-8/10ths is the most fun cuz after that the limits in the car become too aparent(sp?)

I think a rwd tib is something good...and they had a good product as long as you were realistic with what you were driving

Rhawb
08-01-2007, 01:39 PM
Speaking of being realistic about driving a Tiburon...

We used to have this guy that hung around our apartment when we first started college who owned a Tiburon. Said he was going to put in a new intake manifold, exhaust and turbo...and attain 600 WHP.

I'm interested to see what Hyundai comes up with. If the thing isn't a bloated monster and looks as good as the shape is implying (there seem to be some serious sporty lines to the camoed up mule), then Hyundai may have a hit on their hands as long as the cost stays near where it is now. Hyundai's vehicles have been moving along quite nicely, I'll be interested to see if they can actually put out a halfway decent RWD sports coupe on their first try. (old Tib was FWD sports coupe, in case there's any confusion)

playdoh43
08-01-2007, 01:54 PM
turbo i4+rwd is already equating to pretty good potential

dmc27
08-01-2007, 01:56 PM
(there seem to be some serious sporty lines to the camoed up mule)

that's what I was thinking. The Q is what kind of "extra" lines did they cut into that overall style. There's a ton of . . weird . . looking bumps under those wraps. Not sure if it's just part of the camo, or actually covering up some of the "classic" tib contours.

SoundDsnr23
08-01-2007, 03:10 PM
I just traded in my 03 Tib when buying my 8 last month. The Tiburon community has been clamoring for this RWD version for quite some time. The beauty of the current model has always been the price range. When the 2003 came out its main competitors were the Celica, the Eclipse, and the RSX. All three were significantly more expensive for very little benefit. If Hyundai can make this a fun performing car, keep the weight down, and stay under the price of competitors they'll have another winner.

I loved my Tiburon, but it took some mods before I finally felt like I had a car that performed well. The aftermarket suspension made it very tossable, but it also made it harsh and exposed the shortcomings of other parts. Rattles and squeaks became a fact of life in everyday driving. And the 2.7L V6 had some nice torque, but the car still weighed a bit more than the 8, and without a very usable backseat.

rotary crazy
08-01-2007, 03:11 PM
looks like hyundai is going to beat mazda and the kabura :(

rotarypower88
08-01-2007, 03:24 PM
that sounds cool even if it is a hyundai, the world needs another rwd turbo 4 cyl car. hopefully they make it look a little better

User24
08-01-2007, 11:47 PM
There are at least 7 current and future cars that share that overall bodyshape. It's the new "safe" design look for sport sedans, enough to break from the Mazda6 or BMW traditional-box, yet nothing too daring.

YaXMaNGTO
08-02-2007, 12:05 AM
Now you'll get to see a Tibby in drifting contests. :Eyecrazy:
This is an impressive move by hyundai.

If Mazda doesn't get off their butts and turbocharge or supercharge the RX8, they are going to watch their wonderfully engineered car get its ass kicked by a piece of crap Hyundai on some Japanese TV show. That's just wrong.

DailyDriver2k5
08-02-2007, 08:39 AM
Now you'll get to see a Tibby in drifting contests. :Eyecrazy:
This is an impressive move by hyundai.

If Mazda doesn't get off their butts and turbocharge or supercharge the RX8, they are going to watch their wonderfully engineered car get its ass kicked by a piece of crap Hyundai on some Japanese TV show. That's just wrong.

Not if its going to weigh a ton or two.

We have a year and half till this car comes out and if you haven't notice, car companies are not putting there cars on a diet anytime soon. Its very rare to find a car now adays under the 3200 lbs mark these days. I am assuming this Hyundai will probally be somewhere in the 3400+ pound range , equipped with 300HP equates to a decent performer on the straits but weak in the corners. It would definitely need to be a torque monster like your GTO , to move that heft around or else the next Tiburon will be a ho-hum car.


Despite the lack of Hp in the RX-8 it is still very competive against many car with higher HP, but cars that also have a tremendous weight disadvantage. I for one have had my share in participating in some healthy runs with cars that have 50-100HP more but weigh more than the RX-8 and my RX-8 gave them a run for there money.

Those high HP numbers may look nice on paper and sell a ton of cars , but when a car weighs 3400+ lbs, real world application and execution tells it all.