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Turbo111
08-18-2003, 12:36 AM
Has anyone installed or tried to install underglow on their Rx-8 and how did it work for you? Do the tubes hide under the bottom or fo they hang below? Thanks a ton and please leave detailed responses. I believe Underglow would look great on mine.

ATL RX-8
08-19-2003, 03:17 PM
I can't speak for everyone here, but I'll give you a tip. That sort of mod is considered "ricey", and would be akin to a good looking woman having a bad make-up job. Don't do it.

donald121
08-19-2003, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by ATL RX-8
I can't speak for everyone here, but I'll give you a tip. That sort of mod is considered "ricey", and would be akin to a good looking woman having a bad make-up job. Don't do it.

I agree :p

tribal azn2
08-19-2003, 04:33 PM
RICE

Smoker
08-19-2003, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by Turbo111
Has anyone installed or tried to install underglow on their Rx-8 and how did it work for you? Do the tubes hide under the bottom or fo they hang below? Thanks a ton and please leave detailed responses. I believe Underglow would look great on mine.

... maybe you should consider installing those Side mirror lights which lights up the area around the doors when you open them.

Hercules
08-19-2003, 05:13 PM
Yep, pure rice.

The typical 'all show and no go'... not to mention you've added weight to an otherwise lightweight car?

*sigh*

mikeb
08-19-2003, 05:23 PM
lots of good advice and help NOT
I don't think he asked if you guys like the mod or not

Yoshi
08-19-2003, 11:37 PM
Maybe I am the only one here but if someone has the money to purchase an 8, I believe that gives them the right to modify, personalize, paint it pink if they want too. Some modifications look gaudy yet others look great (Mazda Speed). I tell you what man, putting an underglo kit on this car WOULD look nice, only if you lower the car. The last thing you want to do is put those type of accessories on a vehicle and leave the rest stock. It's like putting a 3' wing on a stock Taurus, it just wouldn't look right. Correct me if I am wrong

Aggro_Al
08-21-2003, 12:54 AM
:D It's his car ... let him do what he wants. But IMHO I think a few "R-Type" badges and a few VTEC stickers would look better, plus you get the added benefit of an extra 50hp and 20lb-ft for every badge and sticker!:p

Strider
08-21-2003, 08:32 AM
Comon Aggro! let's not get rediculous with the HP/TQ gains....
It's somewhere between 1-5 HP gain per sticker :p That's why there are so many on a lot of cars out there.

Aggro_Al
08-21-2003, 12:49 PM
Strider I think you are underestimating the 'perceived' power of the "R". Those HP/TQ numbers are fairly conservative.

Had a conversation with a guy that owned a Dodge Neon (not the SRT-4) at the our local movie theater. Lot's of rice on Friday and Saturday nights. He told me that his modded Neon can pull on a Corvette Z06. I think a regular Neon has about 130hp and a stock Z06 has about 405hp. The HP difference is about 275hp. The mods that I could see or that he told me about were 4 or 5 stickers, a large aluminum rear wing, a loud fart can, lowered by cutting the springs, CAI and really dark tint. The wheels were really nice

Large rear wing decreases traction on front-drive car. The fart can actually decreases HP because of decreased back pressure on the 4 cylinder engine. Cutting the springs weakened his suspension and put his wheels out of camber. CAI would actually add about 5-7hp. Super dark tint in CA just gets you tickets. So that leaves only the stickers to make up for the HP deficiency. Do the math. :cool:

275hp/4stickers = 68.75hp per sticker
275hp/5stickers = 55hp per sticker

This guy pulled on the Z06 so those numbers are still conservative. :D

Hercules
08-21-2003, 01:08 PM
Originally posted by mikeb
lots of good advice and help NOT
I don't think he asked if you guys like the mod or not We'll tell him it's stupid anyway.

Same thing we did when you posted pics of your Civic with the M3 gills ... *sigh*

mikeb
08-21-2003, 04:25 PM
hercules, I don't care who you think you are -- you are rude

m477
08-21-2003, 10:33 PM
Originally posted by Yoshi
Maybe I am the only one here but if someone has the money to purchase an 8, I believe that gives them the right to modify, personalize, paint it pink if they want too.
Of course it does. But if they want to come here and post about their ricey mods, then we have the right to slam them for it. :)

Hercules
08-22-2003, 09:03 AM
Originally posted by mikeb
hercules, I don't care who you think you are -- you are rude And you're still a ricer.

goodyrx8
08-22-2003, 09:18 AM
Almost all, if not all, high line cars have suttle interior foot well lights. If done right in the RX-8, why would this be considered "ricey"?

Hercules
08-22-2003, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by goodyrx8
Almost all, if not all, high line cars have suttle interior foot well lights. If done right in the RX-8, why would this be considered "ricey"? He's not talking about footwell lights. Those can actually be quite useful.

He's talking about the circus or town fair type colored flourescent tubes that go on the underbody of the car, so when you drive around, you look like a total ass.

Which is why everybody promptly flamed the hell out of him; it's just sad to see that happen to Civics, nevermind RX-8s. The people that understand the point of the car is to be lightweight and by adding weight it takes away from the car, will appreciate it most.

Obviously mikeb is the only one that 'stood up' for his ricey 'brother in arms' but if you've seen his Civic pictures... it's a good clue why.

donald121
08-22-2003, 11:28 AM
By the way, isn't it you will get a ticket if you install underglow?

8th1der
08-22-2003, 01:12 PM
Rice, Rice, baby!!! LOL!

mikeb
08-22-2003, 01:17 PM
hercules, Youre just the internet tough guy.
If this guy wants lights on the side of his car thats his car so he can. What are you or who are you the car god. You are a grown man and act like a teenager. Grow up you dont have to go thru life talking down to others to make yourself feel better.

BRx8
08-22-2003, 01:33 PM
geez shut up about the rice thing already...the RX-8 is already considered a rice rocket so all you people drive one! every Japanese import can be considered rice simply because it comes from Asia...

beyond that, if it weren't for "good" rice, the RX-8 would never look as good as it does now...if it weren't for ricers in the past demanding bigger rims with low profile tires, hyper white bulbs that are now HIDs, shorter springs, ground effects and more aerodynamic styling, louder bigger exhausts, etc. we'd all still be driving cars that resemble Buicks...so PLEASE quit making fun of yourselves, you drive a rice rocket! admit it...

and if you hate them so much, buy American, German, or Italian...

:D <--- btw, that's a rice smiley isn't it?

PS - i'm not condoning those underglow lights...i think they are what i consider "bad" rice - all show and no go...plus yea, you can get pulled over for those i believe

Elara
08-22-2003, 02:19 PM
If he wants to put the lights on his car, then let him. And if you don't like it, that's your problem, as you won't be driving his car. All of you, stop attacking him. Now. There is no call to put down anyone else just because YOU don't like what they've done to THEIR car.

mikeb
08-22-2003, 02:30 PM
BRX8---you are 100% correct

Genom
08-22-2003, 02:35 PM
Yeah. How can you dare ask about an apearance change in an apearance forum. The nerve of some people.

I wouldnt go for the undercar neon, but if the car where lowered it might look good.

wakeech
08-22-2003, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by mikeb
BRX8---you are 100% correct

i disagree: rice hasn't anything to do with where it comes from (although that is related to the origin of the word).

rice is cheesiness in car modification, such as poor craftsmanship, poor taste (as in making the front of a '92 Civic hatchback look like a Mercedes E Class), or just general car stupidity.

there is a clear and definable difference in my mind between rice (some idiot kid with stickers, heavy ass rims, vinyl on the paint, and a non-functional wing on an otherwise stock car thinking he's hard core) and a trick "show car" (whether it's for showing or not), where ground effects, hydros, big ass sound systems, real interior craftsmanship, and stylishly complex paint work abound. one is cool, the other is not. i don't think i have to elaborate more than that.

i thought that this forum was supposed to be a community of like-minded enthusiasts where people can come learn, share, and give positive feedback to one another, free of hostility and intolerance. it was, once. i'd like to see it return to that state again.

markb, i thought your car had some seriously cool stuff. i hope you up the ante on your RX-8, you'd make the forum proud.

as far as undercar lighting, i'd say "no" for a streetcar, as it's not only illegal, but if you plan to drive the car everyday (especially if you drop it a significant amout) you'll be replacing all that tubing on a weekly basis. not worth it, IMO. for a show car, hey, do as you please.

BRx8
08-22-2003, 03:07 PM
Originally posted by wakeech


i disagree: rice hasn't anything to do with where it comes from (although that is related to the origin of the word).

i disagree with that...the only times i hear the word "rice" is when it's mentioning an import or a domestic trying to look import...for instance, adding a high spoiler to a mustang...the high spoiler is considered rice because it originated with the Supra and then filtered down to the economoboxes like the Honda's and now ppl are putting them onto Mustangs...

japan is and probaby always will be at the forefront of automotive cars and accessories and thus will keep on producing very dramatic styling that we won't be accustomed to for a few years when it becomes old...rice begins in japan and some of it filters onto our shores...the ones that make it and become popular become standard onto future automobiles such as what i have already described in my previous post (ie. bigger rims, low profile tires)...


ie. Ford Escorts with rust spots all over it, bumper hanging off, cracks in the windows...but they have 20" bling bling chrome rims...i don't consider that rice, i consider it ghetto

eccles
08-22-2003, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by BRx8
super smalls rims that stick out halfway out the wheel wells...i don't consider that rice, i consider them mexicanmobilesWe call them Spanish Rice. :D

Genom
08-22-2003, 03:57 PM
And the sad thing is, they really are "pimp" in a lot of circles back in Mexico City too.

Nothing sadder than a old rustbucket Datson with some tiny extra wide rims.

Aggro_Al
08-22-2003, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by Turbo111
Has anyone installed or tried to install underglow on their Rx-8 and how did it work for you? Do the tubes hide under the bottom or fo they hang below? Thanks a ton and please leave detailed responses. I believe Underglow would look great on mine.

Turbo did you get your RX8 to be a driver car, a show car or something else?

If you bought it to be a show car (auto shows not parking lot rice shows) then underglow kit might look good if done well. You'll have to go the whole nine yards with the appearance mods to make your car look good. Making a car look good is not considered rice as long as you don't claim that those mods improve performance. Also, I hope you have an extra RX8 or a garage full of cars because most show cars aren't driven much so that they can maintain their show car appearance.

If you got your RX8 to be a daily driver or to take to competitions like most people here, then forget about the underglow. You can't see them during the day. In most places it is illegal to drive with them on at night. In competition, they have no known benefit and are actually detrimental. Even the ricers acknowledge that those things break or get lost often.

If you are getting those things installed just to drive around in and give your car the appearance of performance or coolness, then that is considered rice and you will get flamed at most car fansites and in public. So be prepared.

Just because your car is not a Honda Civic or an equivalent doesn't mean that it can't be rice. Also, the word "rice" is not meant to be deragatory to Asians when used to describe a car. Even a Ferrari can be rice if modded by the wrong person.

Check out this site for a description of rice cars.
http://www.riceboypage.com

If you do a Google search you'll probably find quite a few sites on Rice Cars and the Riceboy Culture.

X-R8ed
08-23-2003, 05:34 AM
I hope you have an extra RX8 or a garage full of cars because most show cars aren't driven much so that they can maintain their show car appearance.

This isnt entirely true I turned my daily driven focus into a show car but it was never a trailer queen. Actually most of the cars around me at the two shows I was entered in, before her untimely demise(R.I.P), were not trailer queens. Most show cars have some go to em and unless they have a crap load of custoom work they really see a lot of road time.

Aggro_Al
08-23-2003, 12:45 PM
X-R8ed I would hope show cars have some go in them and/or some distinctive or unobtainable look to them. That is what makes them worth seeing and admiring. If I wanted to go see a run of the mill RX-8 I would go to my local Mazda dealer. I'm talking about a full blown show car. Not a modded daily driver. I told Turbo he had to go all the way with the appearance mods otherwise his underglow kit would just be rice. I also told him that if this is his daily driver to forget the underglow kit and gave my opinions why it would be considered rice if he installed it. This doesn't mean that he or others shouldn't put appearance or performance mods on their daily drivers.

I drive a lightly modded Z most of the time except when I have to haul people or cargo, for that duty I pull out the 4Runner. (Got to love those RX-8 rear seats.) I've also displayed my car a few times but, I still don't consider it a show car. Most of the cars around me were just like mine, modded driving cars. The cars everybody gathered around and wanted to take pictures of were the real show cars. I never said that show cars had to remain on the trailer. Show cars do get driven occassionally and that's fine because they should. They aren't usually used for the daily commute or the mundane errands. I had a '68 Pontiac GTO that I used to take to shows. Yeah, I would drive it to the shows and when the drag strip was still out here it use to see occassional races, other than that it sat in the garage under a car cover. The guy I sold it to gave it to his son as a present and he used it to drive to school and hang out with his friends every day. Even though he kept it in good condition you can just tell that it was a daily driver. For some reason, I just get a different aura from a real show car than from a car that is regularly driven, no matter how clean or modded it is.

X-R8ed, I'm just curious, how did your Ford Focus meet it's demise?

X-R8ed
08-26-2003, 11:38 PM
She met her demise at the hands of an 18 year old with two weeks driving experience and no insurance. He decided that he needed to make a right into a driveway at the ladt second and it wouldn't have been so bad if he wasnt in the far lefthand lane :(

She was known for her lively interior as well as a little bit of get up and go. I was just months from starting the entire remake of the engine I had planned for almost a year. If I had the time she would have hit about 320 HP.some may say it is rice but I dont see any ricers with over 8000 invested in their ride.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid51/pdf5ece9d42b44aafc4413a80b7393a32/fc9fdeae.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid51/pf939ebc8c8ef481118a553189f65ec14/fca46617.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid51/pac21f99413d7c8595fc9dd5e68947666/fca4660c.jpg
R.I.P.

mikeb
08-27-2003, 01:27 AM
nice, love the interior---sorry its rip
Here is my last car---but it was stolen

X-R8ed
08-27-2003, 12:04 PM
Thanks. yours is nice to and that is saying a lot because I am not a honda fan. You had a white interior, I know that was a bitch to keep clean.

Aggro_Al
08-28-2003, 02:50 AM
Originally posted by X-R8ed
...If I had the time she would have hit about 320 HP...



Argh! 320HP from a Focus ... now that would be impressive:) Too bad we'll never get to see it. Maybe you can spend those funds on RX-8 mods. A 320hp RX-8 ... NASTY!

X-R8ed
08-28-2003, 11:50 AM
320 is actually not even to high for a focus. There is a car hitting 440:eek:

Aeterna
08-28-2003, 04:22 PM
Now why-TF did you all have go and start saying things like 'mexicanmobile' and 'Spanish Rice'??? That is absolute bigotry and apparently I am the only MEXICAN on this forum willing to say something about it! I have been a 'member' and frequent visitor to the sight and have contributed my input as best (and as humbly) as I know. I recognize those around me in the forum who are more knowledgeable and well-versed in these fields of automechanics, engineering and often I come here just to learn from them...

Now, reading all of this kind of H.O.R.S.E.S.H.I.T. makes me angry that the moderators have not stepped in to put a stop to the name-calling, insults, racial epithets and slurs being tossed around like it's funny. I know that some, after reading this, will call me a little sensitive, but if one were to check my previous posts to this forum, one would find that though I may not agree with everyone's view of 'aesthetically pleasant,' I have never once thought it proper to degrade someone by referring to them as ANOTHER ethnic group meant to cause insult. It's like using the 'N' word, saying 'You're stupid, and you're opinions suck, because you're just like a nigger, honky, chink, jap, kike, towel-headed 'rab, or Hercules the Hindi god of rotaries (that IS a direct jab, Mr. Patel). When was the last time any of you WENT to Mexico City?

I may be just as passionate about this car as anyone else on this forum, but when all is said and done, it's just a FUCKIN' car and what everyone needs to remember (those getting slammed for having an opinion AND those doing the 'slamming') is that opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and they all stink to everyone else... unfortunately, this forum has now demonstrated that some people can't separate themselves from their dogmatic opinions and truly are just a bunch of DUMBFUCKS... :mad: :mad: :mad:

eccles
08-28-2003, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by Aeterna
Now why-TF did you all have go and start saying things like 'mexicanmobile' and 'Spanish Rice'??? That is absolute bigotryNot bigotry, just a statement of fact - every time I see a vehicle with wire wheels sticking out past the fenders, it's being driven by a person of Hispanic descent. Sorry if it offends you - none was intended.

Genom
08-28-2003, 07:30 PM
I dunno. I'm a real live Mexican too and I dont give a crap. I probably contributed a bit to it. You know why? Cause it's funny. Lighten up man. It's true some people are morons about insulting others taste, and I've spoken against that before, but if your gonna take offence, remember that ricer isnt exactly clean in the racial departement. Spanish rice got me to laughing, and mexicanmobile is an expression I used back home all the time.

It's as logical as black people calling each other ni**** and taking offense if a non-black uses it too. (and I didnt type it out ebcause I am sure someone would take offense at it, even though I am fortunate and all my buddies here in Miami generally dont give a crap either.)

So instead of taking offense, treat it as the joke it is.


Originally posted by Aeterna
Now why-TF did you all have go and start saying things like 'mexicanmobile' and 'Spanish Rice'??? That is absolute bigotry and apparently I am the only MEXICAN on this forum willing to say something about it! I have been a 'member' and frequent visitor to the sight and have contributed my input as best (and as humbly) as I know. I recognize those around me in the forum who are more knowledgeable and well-versed in these fields of automechanics, engineering and often I come here just to learn from them...

Now, reading all of this kind of H.O.R.S.E.S.H.I.T. makes me angry that the moderators have not stepped in to put a stop to the name-calling, insults, racial epithets and slurs being tossed around like it's funny. I know that some, after reading this, will call me a little sensitive, but if one were to check my previous posts to this forum, one would find that though I may not agree with everyone's view of 'aesthetically pleasant,' I have never once thought it proper to degrade someone by referring to them as ANOTHER ethnic group meant to cause insult. It's like using the 'N' word, saying 'You're stupid, and you're opinions suck, because you're just like a nigger, honky, chink, jap, kike, towel-headed 'rab, or Hercules the Hindi god of rotaries (that IS a direct jab, Mr. Patel). When was the last time any of you WENT to Mexico City?

I may be just as passionate about this car as anyone else on this forum, but when all is said and done, it's just a FUCKIN' car and what everyone needs to remember (those getting slammed for having an opinion AND those doing the 'slamming') is that opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and they all stink to everyone else... unfortunately, this forum has now demonstrated that some people can't separate themselves from their dogmatic opinions and truly are just a bunch of DUMBFUCKS... :mad: :mad: :mad:

mikeb
08-28-2003, 08:11 PM
well put genom

BRx8
08-28-2003, 08:39 PM
holy good god man, can we say "Anger Management"? it was a joke...well, there's truth to it but meant as a joke nonetheless...i mean are you the type of person, then, that refused to go see Star Wars Episode 1 because you felt JarJar Binks was a derogatory portrayal of blacks? or did you boycott Lord of the Rings 2 : The Two Towers because the title reminded you too much of "The Twin Towers"? sensitive aren't we? tell ya what, you may not have the big crown on your dashboard, fuzzy carpet on your roof, or 10" wheels that stick out 5 feet past your fenders but some people do...and guess what you see when you look inside? Latino Heat! yea, it's funny to me...

it's also funny when i see an Escort with 20" "bling-bling" chrome rims and a pounding system playing hip hop past what the human ear is supposed to be capable of handling...i look inside and it's usually a black person driving it...yea it's ghetto but i think it's funny...

i think it's hilarious when i see a 4 door '87 Accord LX with a 7' high wing, plastic hubcabs that resemble chrome rims, and stickers to cover the rust...rice? yup, it's funny to me too...i look inside and it's almost always an Asian person driving it...hence "rice"...

it's all in good humor but i guess there has to be someone here to ruin the fun...i mean there's always a politically correct bitch in every group, isn't there?

but i guess if you did take offense to it then i do apologize and i am explaining to you right now that it was just a joke...and if you wish, i'm Asian...go ahead and get me back if you like, i honestly don't care...i've been called a chink, jap, ricer, 5 dolla make you holla, oh so sowee so sowee, slant eye, gook, etc...i've heard 'em all and quite frankly i'm immune to it when i know it's just a joke...

Elara
08-28-2003, 09:06 PM
Ok, lets drop the entire entire topic. Next time, if you guys see something I miss, pm me about and don't attack the entire thread, and I'll take care of it. Yes, the comments could be(and are) offensive to some, but I take the blame for not catching them. I think it's safe to say we'll all make a bigger effort in the future not to piss anyone off by comments that could possibly be construed as racially motivated. No one meant to insult anyone else.

Again, my apologies guys.

layzieb36
09-28-2003, 10:16 PM
I was wondering if any users on here have placed an underbody light kit on their car, if so, I was wondering how difficult this would be, I put one on my truck but that was easy, I think this car will be more difficult, because I haven't even looked underneath :( well any help on this issue would be greatly appreciated.

-Chris

mikeb
09-29-2003, 12:49 AM
To my knowledge no one has installed yet
If you know a good custom shop I would have them take a look at it


Put your flame suit on

layzieb36
09-29-2003, 01:49 PM
Well I just looked under the car, I can see where i will mount the front and sides but not really the rear yet, that probably the only place i'll have problems.

-Chris

RX-EVolved
09-29-2003, 02:55 PM
...AND I HIGHLY RECCOMEND USING RAMPS(NOT A JACK OR LIFT) THE REAR WAS ACTUALLY THE EASIER OF THE FOUR SIDES. MAKE SURE YOU MOUNT THEM HIGH ENUFF TO WERE THEY WILL CLEAR SPEED BUMPS ETC. I ALLREADY SHATTERD MY FRONT TUBE, OTHERWISE I WOULD POST PIX.

mikeb
09-29-2003, 03:24 PM
I saw your car at sevenstock
you had the universal splitters in front and mesh grill and custom exhaust
nice

Thinthi
10-18-2003, 12:30 AM
I finally took delivery of my arrest me red almost 12 hours ago, well as much as some of you may think me retarded i was considering putting red neons under the chasis. now at first glance it appears the neons would be too low, unless they were further in the middle. i was wondering if anyone was able to put some underbodies on the car in a safe place where they won't shatter whenever a small bump in the road comes. i was considering getting smaller neons and hiding them as high as possible, but somewhere they can still be seen. any suggestions would be welcome, rude comments from people who think the underbodies would be a bad idea, keep them to yourself thanks. and to anyone who thinks they are illegal and will get me arrested quicker, the law in new york (what a traffic cop told me) is as long as the bulb can't be seen without going under the car its legal. thanks in advance for your responses.

jimbo_gixxer
10-18-2003, 02:20 AM
congrats thinthi...!
i have the same ARREST ME OCIFER RED. and it occured to me i also want the neons under my car when i'm chillin' out in a parkin lot ogling at my car with other car enthusiasts.

if you find a good spot to install them and a brand of light, please post info and PiX!

cheers

mikeb
10-18-2003, 06:16 PM
someone already did this on their silver 8 and posted pics
I think its under this thread

OliviaVS
06-13-2004, 08:13 PM
I have put red on...its looks ricey.. but not as ricey as most do just because it is red. It's hard to get it...I think it looks tight though. Any questons?

red_rx8_red_int
06-13-2004, 09:43 PM
Where's the pics?