Who's in?
Linkie (http://www.scca.com/Event/Event.asp?IdS=1CBB56-3E36B90&Id=6380)

Looks like we're going to have a "special guest appearance" by a certain west coast B Stocker. :)

Should be interesting.

It was like pulling teeth to get ULLLLLLLLOSE to tow 200 miles to run at Atwater, yet he'll go 3000 miles round trip to run in Houston? OK...that makes sense :cwm27:

Must have either a co-drive or something else going on...

It was like pulling teeth to get ULLLLLLLLOSE to tow 200 miles to run at Atwater, yet he'll go 3000 miles round trip to run in Houston? OK...that makes sense :cwm27:

Must have either a co-drive or something else going on...

SEB meeting Mon-Tues in Houston. :Freak_ani We have always wanted to go, but it is more of a drive than Topeka, now I have to be there so it was an easy choice. Bad part is even driving the car rather than towing I am looking at $500 for gas. :mad:

SEB meeting Mon-Tues in Houston. :Freak_ani We have always wanted to go, but it is more of a drive than Topeka, now I have to be there so it was an easy choice. Bad part is even driving the car rather than towing I am looking at $500 for gas. :mad:

If you had a co-driver, your expenses could be lower ;)

If you had a co-driver, your expenses could be lower ;)

You going to bring the motor home down pick up the car and haul it out there and back for me on your dime? :)

You going to bring the motor home down pick up the car and haul it out there and back for me on your dime? :)

Nah, I have a free ticket on Southwest Air...but, I could throw a couple hunnert for gas. :ylsuper:

Nah, I have a free ticket on Southwest Air...but, I could throw a couple hunnert for gas. :ylsuper:

Somehow this does not sound like a good deal for me.... Let you drive the 2 time championship winning car for some gas money while I do all the work and spend two days on the road each way. :icon_no2: Oh no... It would cost you big time to get in that seat.

Somehow this does not sound like a good deal for me.... Let you drive the 2 time championship winning car for some gas money while I do all the work and spend two days on the road each way. :icon_no2: Oh no... It would cost you big time to get in that seat.

OK, I fly to John Wayne, help you drive out and pay for gas on the way...then, I fly out Sunday, 'cause I ain't sticking around for no SEB meeting...

OK, I fly to John Wayne, help you drive out and pay for gas on the way...then, I fly out Sunday, 'cause I ain't sticking around for no SEB meeting...

:yelrotflm The only way I see this going down is you solo in a motorhome with our car on a trailer. See you in TX. :biggthump

Maybe for a few hundie one of the locals will give you a ride... You should hit up EDJ, he runs the 245 Hoosier and that is the one thing you have not tried yet. :hahano:

Nah, being realistic, I have too much going on right now to seriously think about going to Houston to autocross...although, if I had the chance to take a shot at you with your own car, that might make it worth the hassle. :cwm27:

edited for unwarranted smacktalk.

Nah, being realistic, I have too much going on right now to seriously think about going to Houston to autocross...although, if I had the chance to put the hurt on you with your own car, that might make it worth the hassle. :cwm27:

:rollingla

:rollingla

I'm sensing fear.... :p:

I would love to go if I could find a co-drive... I'm already in Houston... anyone?

James

I'm sensing fear.... :p:


you going to Castle this weekend?

you going to Castle this weekend?

Nope. I've got a little problem with owning more homes than I want and have to work on some stuff around that this weekend. :mad:

I plan on running the Oakland SCCA event on Sunday morning.

I'll be there. Supposed to have a tire warmer already...

Too bad we don't have a Pro for ULLLOSE to play in. :(

I guess we'll just have to show him some Texas hospitality instead.

I'll be there. Supposed to have a tire warmer already...

Too bad we don't have a Pro for ULLLOSE to play in. :(

I guess we'll just have to show him some Texas hospitality instead.

I was just poking the Streldoc on email that he should co-drive with you.

I was not going to stick around for the Pro anyway. I am tired of them and I hear the Mineral Wells site is a POS.

I was just poking the Streldoc on email that he should co-drive with you.


Streldoc has a *much* more interesting ride than an RX-8....

You should convince him to let me drive his car...I mean his wife's car... :lol2:

Streldoc has a *much* more interesting ride than an RX-8....

You should convince him to let me drive his car...I mean his wife's car... :lol2:

I am sure he is in same boat as me.... Lucky we get to drive it at all. :banghead:

Jennifer just decided not to go to Houston.

Mineral Wells is a great asphalt site, just a bit far out in the sticks

Looks like we're going to have a "special guest appearance" by a certain west coast B Stocker. :)


I don't think you guys will have much problem with the special guest. After all, he got beat by Barbara yesterday. :uhh:

Oh, and for fun I asked Jason if I could co-drive his car in Houston. He said "Yeah, sure, $50 and your in". I guess he's got something against mwood. :mdrmed:

I don't think you guys will have much problem with the special guest. After all, he got beat by Barbara yesterday. :uhh:

Oh, and for fun I asked Jason if I could co-drive his car in Houston. He said "Yeah, sure, $50 and your in". I guess he's got something against mwood. :mdrmed:

You need to work on your math. Or is it she gets to count all eight runs and I only get four?

Can you believe I beat mwood with those some crappy tires in Atwater. :lol2:

No I said if you drive the car out you can run for free. :)

You need to work on your math. Or is it she gets to count all eight runs and I only get four?


Sounds like a fair handicap to me. :)

It was pretty obvious your tires were gone. Too bad I missed the opportunity to put fresh tires on my car and spank you. :spank:

Hey edj - I notice your co-driver listed Kumho tires. Are you guys going to be swapping between runs, or have you come over to the darkside? :Eyecrazy:

Hey edj - I notice your co-driver listed Kumho tires. Are you guys going to be swapping between runs, or have you come over to the darkside? :Eyecrazy:

heh...he said exactly the same thing about swapping tires...

nope, he's just old and gets confused easily. :spank:

i did run Kumhos last weekend...worked well on the car...but i think
i'll stick with Hosers for the tour.

heh...he said exactly the same thing about swapping tires...

nope, he's just old and gets confused easily. :spank:

i did run Kumhos last weekend...worked well on the car...but i think
i'll stick with Hosers for the tour.



We did that in 2003, Jennifer ran Kumhos and I was on Hoosiers. Even being in different heats all those extra tire changes sucked.

So with only 160 cars will we get fun runs?:D:

wow, only 160, that's low by Tour standards

Course maps are up!!! (http://houscca.com/solo/courses.asp)

Day 1:

http://houscca.com/solo/courses/NT07_day1.gif

Day2:

http://houscca.com/solo/courses/NT07_day2.gif

Looks like Roger Johnson has designed a couple of really entertaining courses! Notice that (unlike Walnut Ridge :wink: ) the course is actually quite different on Day 2!

Looks like Roger Johnson has designed a couple of really entertaining courses! Notice that (unlike Walnut Ridge :wink: ) the course is actually quite different on Day 2!

Both courses are run the same direction both days and a number of the turns are reused both days. I am a little surprised that it was done that way. I have never been disappointed by one of Rogers courses and I am sure this will be a fun one, but I am disappointed to see we will run a number of the same turns in the same direction.

Roger has been re-using parts of the Day 1 course on Day 2 for years.
Very few of these re-used turns are entered exactly the same way on Day 2.
Looking at the maps, 3 of the 4 slaloms are the same but none of the big
turns/sweepers are the same.

I don't think you'll be disappointed... :)

the run order is up on the SCCA website

BS runs heat 3, works heat 2

Sat 3rd heat results are up: http://www.scca.org/_FileLibrary/File/Houston%20heat%203%20-%20Res3.pdf

Jason has a 4 tenths lead over Kenneth Baker, followed closely by Jon Wagner in 3rd.

Sat 3rd heat results are up: http://www.scca.org/_FileLibrary/File/Houston%20heat%203%20-%20Res3.pdf

Jason has a 4 tenths lead over Kenneth Baker, followed closely by Jon Wagner in 3rd.


Hoosiers certainly don't look like too much of a liability. Anyone know which HoHo's are being run?

Jason's probably sweating it...he's right where the 2nd and 3rd place guys want him...:spank:

Hoosiers certainly don't look like too much of a liability. Anyone know which HoHo's are being run?

Jason's probably sweating it...he's right where the 2nd and 3rd place guys want him...:spank:

Forget what the results show I think the only guy on Hoosier is EDJ, Baker and Wagner are both on 245 V710s. :confused:

Bummed I did not speed up at all but I think I got the Pace award for sat. :cool:

So, no Hoosiers in the top 3, huh?

I just looked at the day one results and it was nice to see my old SS friend, Lance, leading the way in the old school Z06...over Erik in a GT3? I guess his 3 rotor beast ate a transmission?

Anyhow, as I sit here, between practice tests for a real estate exam I have to take on Monday, I'm more than just a little envious of everyone (all 190 or whatever the pathetic turnout ended up at) who is getting to play at the National Tour event!!!

Do good tomorrow, ULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOSE, and all the rest of the RX8 posse :)

Looks like Jason put the smack down on the rest of the field today... and my buddy Sean pulled a Sipe with massive cone carnage both days in SS:

http://www.scca.org/_FileLibrary/File/Houston%20Preliminary-%20Res3.pdf

Wow, it looks like Jason was flyin' today...after a pretty middle of the road PAX effort yesterday, today's gonna move him waaaaaay up on the index...if you're in to that kind of thing...anyway, congrats ULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOSE:)

Also, my pal Lance Adams hung on to win SS, running the Z06 against Streldoc in a borrowed GT3...awesome! :)

Yeah, Jason laid the smack down today, straight-timing A Stock and laying up a time that would have trophied in Super Stock on today's course. :Eyecrazy: Congrats to him on a well-earned victory.

BTW, edj was the only RX-8 pilot on Hoosiers (245s). The rest of us were on 245 Kumhos, even though they've still got me listed on Hoosiers in the results. The pathetic thing there is that I watched Doug Gill come over and verify the tires on every single B Stock car after Jason pointed out the discrepancy in Saturday's results. :rolleyes:

One interesting data point from the weekend: I was curious to see if Baghead's claim about the weight difference between Base and Sport model cars was true, so we weighed Jason's car ('05 Base, Konis, 245 Kumhos, 1st gen lightweight SSRs, Mazdacomp front bar) and mine ('04 Sport, Konis, 245 Kumhos, 1st gen lightweight SSRs, stock bar). Both cars were in race trim, and mine was maybe a gallon lighter on fuel than Jason's. His weighed in at 2845 lbs, and mine was 2849 lbs. With the difference in fuel levels you could call it a ten pound difference, maybe fifteen tops.

I guess the Sport package isn't 40 pounds heavier after all. :)

Maybe the auto front bar is lighter?
Hmmmm....I wonder if "anyone" has tried that bar?

Congrats to ULLOSE!

FM(recent first loser even though he has a better car)

Congrats to ULLLOSE on the ass kicking he delivered over the weekend.
My butt still hurts... :(

Now I need to talk to Roger about all those orange things that litter
his otherwise fine courses...

PAX results are up (http://sccaforums.com/forums/thread/245492.aspx). Congrats to Jason for top PAX on Sunday.

PAX results are up (http://sccaforums.com/forums/thread/245492.aspx). Congrats to Jason for top PAX on Sunday.

Good job to Jason.
Especially on day 2!
FM

I was curious to see if Baghead's claim about the weight difference between Base and Sport model cars was true, so we weighed Jason's car ('05 Base, Konis, 245 Kumhos, 1st gen lightweight SSRs, Mazdacomp front bar) and mine ('04 Sport, Konis, 245 Kumhos, 1st gen lightweight SSRs, stock bar). Both cars were in race trim, and mine was maybe a gallon lighter on fuel than Jason's. His weighed in at 2845 lbs, and mine was 2849 lbs. With the difference in fuel levels you could call it a ten pound difference, maybe fifteen tops.

I guess the Sport package isn't 40 pounds heavier after all. :)

Did Jason remove the wing?

Did Jason remove the wing?

Still have the wing... It is only 3 lbs. :)

Fun weekend. Got the Sat Pace award, top Pax Sun and a big win. :) I wish I did not have to sit in Houston for two more days and then spend 24hrs driving home. :(

Congrats Jason

congrats to jason mccall (former rx-8'er) on his win in STU and his wife in STUL. :)

Only took 22 hrs to get home. :tear:

Just added up my gas bill... Better than I thought it would be, $508.35. :uhh: High for the trip was 3.89 and low was $3.19 for super. Cool thing is TX has 93 oc. :)

Got about 22 mpg avg with ac on, best tank was 24 and worst was 20. Only used 1/2 qt of oil for almost 3200 miles and 12 autox runs.

Just added up my gas bill... Better than I thought it would be, $508.35. :uhh: High for the trip was 3.89 and low was $3.19 for super. Cool thing is TX has 93 oc. :)

Got about 22 mpg avg with ac on, best tank was 24 and worst was 20. Only used 1/2 qt of oil for almost 3200 miles and 12 autox runs.

How fast were you driving? Did you use cruise? Have you passed 5th grade math? I only wish I could see MPG in the 20's?

How fast were you driving? Did you use cruise? Have you passed 5th grade math? I only wish I could see MPG in the 20's?

Most of the trip was 75-85 mph, TX now has a 80mph speed limit. :)

Over $4 for super many places in the Bay Area:Eyecrazy:

The inefficiency of the rotary is amazing. In the type of use you described, my Z06 would be getting right at 30mpg!

east & mid TX has 93 octane, it drops to 91 octane once you get above a certain elevation in the western part of the state

and desolate TX interstate west of San Antonio (I-10) is 80 mph during daylight hours, the one thing that does suck there is the night speed limit drops 5 mph over the daylight limit

and desolate TX interstate west of San Antonio (I-10) is 80 mph during daylight hours, the one thing that does suck there is the night speed limit drops 5 mph over the daylight limit

Try 15 mph drop. Day 80 mph night 65 mph. I used every minute of daylight. :D:

Is your car getting better MPG now then when it was new? Do you feel like it's faster now with 30K on it then when it was new?

Is your car getting better MPG now then when it was new? Do you feel like it's faster now with 30K on it then when it was new?

Gets the same. :dunno: MPG has not been a big issue for us and we do not seem to use much oil. When we ran the track day I think I used half as much oil as mp5 in his 2004.

How does it feel? Well like a big fat Miata, just like when we got it. :icon_no2:

My RX8 also doesn't burn much oil...at least not as much as I was led to expect!

MPG isn't bad, compared to my Winnebago, but is ridiculous for a car of the RX8's capabilities. :banghead: Unfortunately, the gas mileage may prove to be too much for the rotary to overcome in the marketplace, longer term...which is too bad, they are interesting motors. I still prefer a pushrod V8, though;)