Driving home for lunch yesterday, sitting at a stop light, start to move forward.
Check engine light comes on and car goes into "limp mode". Wont rev above 3k rpm's and wont go above 50mph.

Got home, did the ECU clear/reset procedure and drove it to the dealership, drove fine after the clear/reset.

Talk to my service rep today and its lo0kin like my 8's gettin a new motor. :(

In the meantime, they gave me a mazda3 to drive from enterprise. I was unaware they still made cars with manual windows, manual locks, and manual adjustable side mirrors. It has to be the most basic stripped down car ive ever been in. Needless to say, it sucks, I hate it.

Hope the weather clears up so I can drive my mustang around instead.

Anyone whos had a motor replacement, any idea how long it usually takes? Thinkin while they have it out, I might have them put a lightweight flywheel in there or somethin :dunno:

how many miles on your car? at or mt? what kind of oil do you use? do you redline it a lot?

25,400 miles, manual trans, recommended viscosity, cant recall brand offhand, yes-i drive it like i stole it

how many miles on your car? at or mt? what kind of oil do you use? do you redline it a lot?
+1


Go back to the rental company and change cars.

25,400 miles, manual trans, recommended viscosity, cant recall brand offhand, yes-i drive it like i stole it
damn it, I type too slow.

sounds like you just got a bum renesis engine. They're handmade, maybe the guy dropped it a few times before installing it in your car.

id change cars at the rental company, but this one is free (dealership paying for it) and I doubt they have anything nicer in the "free" category that they would put me in.

I think im gonna get the insurance then just beat the hell outta this one.

The wierd thing is, ive never had any problems at all before this, no loss of power, no stutters or misfires ...

The dealership pays up to a certain dollar amount per day for rentals. In CA I think it's around $30 or so.
I've gotten some shitty rentals and I've also gotten some really nice ones.

Just go back, tell them the car was shaking really bad and they'll put you in something nicer. :D:

it'll be shakin after we do some 6.5k neutral drops in front of the shop :D:

it'll be shakin after we do some 6.5k neutral drops in front of the shop :D:
HAHA!!!

I got a new Mustang as a rental last time and I tried doing that! (it was an A/T) Stupid Ford made it so you can't do the old "neutral bomb" trick....
I'd shift into neutrual, rev the engine to about 6K, and then slam it into Drive....BAM....nothing..... the damn thing waits until the rpms get low enough, and then it finally engages. :mad:

I rented a Shelby Mustang GT350 from hertz when I was in tampa a couple weekends ago. Supposedly they disabled the TCS in the car so you cant turn it off. Wrong!! All they did was put a piece of plastic behind the button so you cant depress it. Well, if you pushed hard enough it would turn TCS off. haha ... you can imagine what we did after I found that out.

Screw imagination ... I have pics, and VIDEO!!!

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a62/pass1over/gt350H2.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a62/pass1over/gt350H1.jpg



http://youtube.com/watch?v=D9hlE4vkjDU

HAHA!!!

I got a new Mustang as a rental last time and I tried doing that! (it was an A/T) Stupid Ford made it so you can't do the old "neutral bomb" trick....
I'd shift into neutrual, rev the engine to about 6K, and then slam it into Drive....BAM....nothing..... the damn thing waits until the rpms get low enough, and then it finally engages. :mad:

:hahano: I tried that exact thing in my rental Grand Am a couple years ago and the exact same scenario happened to me. I was disappointed enough to engage the e-brake and gas it in drive several times!

Driving home for lunch yesterday, sitting at a stop light, start to move forward.
Check engine light comes on and car goes into "limp mode". Wont rev above 3k rpm's and wont go above 50mph.

Got home, did the ECU clear/reset procedure and drove it to the dealership, drove fine after the clear/reset.

Talk to my service rep today and its lo0kin like my 8's gettin a new motor. :(

In the meantime, they gave me a mazda3 to drive from enterprise. I was unaware they still made cars with manual windows, manual locks, and manual adjustable side mirrors. It has to be the most basic stripped down car ive ever been in. Needless to say, it sucks, I hate it.

Hope the weather clears up so I can drive my mustang around instead.

Anyone whos had a motor replacement, any idea how long it usually takes? Thinkin while they have it out, I might have them put a lightweight flywheel in there or somethin :dunno:

mine was done in less than 24 hours... think i had a corrolla..

and they installed a prolite flywheel and a new clutch...

a good dealership is a great thing..

beers :beer:

sorry to hear, hope u get a good one this time. make sure u break it in right.

well, I got my engine replaced at 2200miles and it took about a week and a half because I kept harrassing them.....and hey....nice stang :)

Wow that sucks. Hope you get your 8 back soon.

well, I got my engine replaced at 2200miles and it took about a week and a half because I kept harrassing them.....and hey....nice stang :)

Wow...2200 miles and an engine replacement ...on a 2007 no less!! :Eyecrazy: That has to be an anomoly, and also a record of some sort for engine replacements I would guess ("hope" is more like it). Did the dealership have any specific reasons why the engine failed so early?

Curious...

well, I got my engine replaced at 2200miles and it took about a week and a half because I kept harrassing them.....and hey....nice stang :)


that sucks to have an engine replaced after only 2200 miles, definately wierd for sure

yea, that mustangs ok ... this ones better though :)
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a62/pass1over/mustang1-1small.jpg

Wow...nice old stang! Those wheels are really different looking on the car. I actually like the way they add a sort of contemporary look to the classic lines of the original mustang. I have always been a Ford fan and one of my first cars was a 63.5 Falcon sprint hardtop with a built 260 and T-10 4speed tranny. I wouldn't trade your mustang for one of those overblown new ones though, thats for sure...I digress, sorry for getting off topic!

JR

mine's at the dealer getting the replacement engine....they say they should have the engine by the end of this week and need a few days to get it installed so hopefully by the end of next week I'll have mine back.....

to anyone that has gotten the replacement engine.....

was it remanufacutred or brand new?
how is the warranty and/or the extended warranty effected?
does the "new" engine have zero miles on it?
anyone have a best guess what happens when it comes to trade in time?
all I hear is a car is never the same when you replace its engine....am i still going to love my car?

well, my service rep decided to "jump teh gun" and freak me out by telling me its gonna need a new engine.
Turns out the accelerator pedal position sensor was reading a 2.0V difference between APP1 and APP2. ECU threw code P2121

kinda wished they hadn't of freaked me out with the "your getting a new motor" speech....

was it remanufacutred or brand new?


When they started out with the engine replacements, they had all new engines on hand. As they took out old engines, they fixed them up, and started using used engines as replacements.

Changes are, you'll get a used engine that didn't work in someone elses car...

Dealers like to tell the customer the engine they're getting is new, though.

If I have to replace my engine, I dont mind to have a reman, as long as they can swear their life that the reman engine will not give me the same problem.

Swoope got a reman, and he is wonderfully happy.

If I have to replace my engine, I dont mind to have a reman, as long as they can swear their life that the reman engine will not give me the same problem.

Swoope got a reman, and he is wonderfully happy.


yes i am... i have almost 15k miles on the new one.. and i think it is better than the first...

and before you say well the first one was bad, i was able to fix the problem with premix.

beers :beer:

Wow...2200 miles and an engine replacement ...on a 2007 no less!! :Eyecrazy: That has to be an anomoly, and also a record of some sort for engine replacements I would guess ("hope" is more like it). Did the dealership have any specific reasons why the engine failed so early?

Curious...

yes they do, and .......no......it didn't go in car fax that my car was f'ing lemonized..........the mthef'ers didn't believe me at first, but they I took them on a ride on the highway, and the car started violently shaking while on 6th gear going about 50mph, turned out the damn second "cylinder" what ever the hell that is in a rotary "misfired" obviously, it almost killed me once, but they replaced it for free, so I was convinced not to yell at them until I get my car back

mine's at the dealer getting the replacement engine....they say they should have the engine by the end of this week and need a few days to get it installed so hopefully by the end of next week I'll have mine back.....

to anyone that has gotten the replacement engine.....

was it remanufacutred or brand new?
how is the warranty and/or the extended warranty effected?
does the "new" engine have zero miles on it?
anyone have a best guess what happens when it comes to trade in time?
all I hear is a car is never the same when you replace its engine....am i still going to love my car?

well, my engine is new, they shipped it from Japan, and well, when they installed it, looked new anyways,

the warranty for drivetrain is reset for the engine, which means you give them the slip that says engine replaced at so-and-so miles, and thats your new warranty

yes it has 0 miles on it, but when a person buys it, you gotta tell them that, and got the docs to prove it, and my engine VINS number do not match the one on my car..........

and dude, once you change it, it still feels like it always had, unless you freaking customized your rotor blades, but then they won't replace it for you :)

Swoope: How did you, or the dealer, determine you needed a new engine?

car was in for power loss under long cruise conditions... it was in multiple times... i could mask the problem by premixing for about 20k miles...

when the recall came out, i knew about that 2 months in advace..

all they had to do was follow the flow chart on the recall...

i got to skip all the testing.. if you take the time to read the recall, and testing procedures you will learn a lot..

beer :beer:

Now Im thinking should I stop premixing for a few tanks and see how my engine reacts.

I never had any power lost problem. but just wanted to be sure. agreed swoope ?

sure,

i think it would take a long time for it to happen anyway... and why some failed and others didnt doesnt seem to have a real answer..

i am still mixing, but i am down to about 3oz per tank.. a safety measure..

beers :beer:

I usually mix between 6 to 8 oz.

I dont know, Im on my last quart of premix (used 12 quarts in maybe 6-7 months I think) reordered already,

ahh forget it, I never had a problem before I premix anyway. :)

if you never had the problem you are not a little on edge about it...

it is a sick sick feeling when it happens...

beers :beer:

yes i am... i have almost 15k miles on the new one.. and i think it is better than the first...

and before you say well the first one was bad, i was able to fix the problem with premix.

beers :beer:
Damn swoop! You've already got more miles on your reman than I have on my entire car! Since I purchased my 2006 in mid-August 06, just a week prior to the recall, I got the reflash done almost immediately. I'm a guinea pig for the "ain't never gonna need no motor" club (or so Mazda USA hopes).

BTW- I haven't dynoed mine for power yet, but compared to the 04 Jetta GLI 1.8T I had, and the heavily-modified 2003 Mustang GT I had, this one feels like it's shuffling every bit of 195 or so to the rear tires. It certainly goes through the fuel like it is!

well, car did the same thing to me today. :icon_no2: Going around a corner, speed up ... shift into 3rd and power instantly dies. Check engine light goes on and no go above 2k rpm's

gimp it back to the shop I work at around the corner and park it. Gonna call mazda in the AM and have them pick it up. so, we'll see .... :sad:

wierd thing is, at idle it would rev itself to like 2800 or so and stay there.

oh boy .... i gotta drive a rental car now, /sigh :puke:

Wow. I've seen a few threads now about the bad engines.

This is crazy, there has to be a major issue with these engines and why they are going bad.

Just replacing the engine everytime it goes bad isn't fixing the problem.

I think I might write a letter!!

got it back yesterday. They replaced mounts, plugs, and wires. Said they found the ends of my wires were corroded.
Still doesnt explain why its doing what its doing imo.

Going in to work, just turned out of my subdivision, bam! check engine/traction light come on. No power, gas pedal is unresponsive and car stays idling at 3k rpm.

This is the 5th!! time this car has done this to me. What makes it even better is to hear your service rep talk to you about "all the crazy things these rotaries do, but none of them know why" ... uhhh, huhwha? ... "low compression when they test it 1 day, but the next its fine, error codes and funny happenings that even '20 year vets' cant figure out"

Seems to me, their just throwin parts at it and hoping 1 of them will fix it. So far, TPS on pedal and TB, engine mounts, plugs, plug wires, and numerous other tests to try to find a cause.

Mazda roadside is coming to get the car, for the 2nd time this week. Eh, so much for buying this heap of crap when the lease runs out. F-that

Wow bro that sucks!!!

The more threads I see like this about the 8, makes me wanna start looking at the 350Z or EVO VIII.

Do they not test the car before giving it back to the owner? Just to make sure they fixed the problem?

Pass1over, bro! This being the 5th time and the problem keeps on happening, would they continue to to try and fix it or would they try and make it right and give you another ride?

How does that work?

Finally got my car back, again. They replaced the throttle body this time. And guess what? it did the same thing not 10min after I got it. Check engine light and traction control light come on, throttle pedal is unresponsive, engine revs to surges between 2800 and 3200

this is the 6th time my car has done this in almost exactly 2 months. It was after hours for mazda service, so its goin back tomorrow morning. I dont think im taking any other answer/fix for my car other than a new engine or a new car.

The only thing im happy about is that I dont have any mods on my car other than tein springs, so theres nothing for them to try to place the blame on for these happenings.

You've got a bad ground somewhere.
As a matter of course, they should swap the battery and PCM with known good components (obviously, they are NOT following the diagnostic flowcharts in the FSM), but I'll bet a box of donuts that its just a bad ground wire.

your wanting to do exactly what their doing ... just throwing parts at it and hope 1 of em will fix it.

their replacing the engine wiring harness now.

that sure isn't cheap.

yea, go0d thing its under warranty.

so far parts replaced:
both TPS
throttle pedal
plugs
wires
motor mounts
throttle body
engine harness

At least MazdaManiac is suggesting that the service people follow a pre-determined set of instructions to diagnose the problem. That's not exactly throwing parts at it. Suggesting that they should just look for a ground fault could fall into that category but in this case i tend to agree with his assessment.

he said its probably a faulty ground so they shoudl replace the battery and ecu ... what if its not the battery or ecu .... then its just throwin parts at it. Who says their not following a stepby step ... everything their replacing seems to be somewhat related to me. I'll give ya the phone number to the dealer ... frankly ... i dont give a damn anymore.

just about everything theyve replaced (mounts aside) has been related to fuel regulation of some sort.

I cant tell them they shoudl follow tsb#blah blah blah ... their the dealer, my cars under warranty, let them have the headache.

PaS - hope hertz doesn't do a search for "hertz and shelby" and find a picture of you smiling with a cloud of burn rubber. They will also check the tires when you turn it in. Good luck.

I didn't say replace the battery and PCM I said swap them with known good components.
This is part of the FSM procedure and a good practice since it eliminates two of the big hitters in problems like this.

But, since you know better, I'll defer to your judgment.

I didn't say replace the battery and PCM I said swap them with known good components.
This is part of the FSM procedure and a good practice since it eliminates two of the big hitters in problems like this.

But, since you know better, I'll defer to your judgment.

you just had to toss in that little asshole tag line at the end didn't you?

to0 bad that was like 3 months ago and any tire wear or lack of tread wouldnt matter by now. This has no relation to whats going on now. ALso, that has NOTHING to do with my mazda. My dealership doesnt use hertz, so who the fo0k cares?! That was done in florida when I was down there on vacation. Im not paying for the POS ford focus they put me in for hte past week (they use enterprise, and pick me up! haha) Cool burnout though huh?

swap = replace parts. Its the same thing, I just choose to use a larger word than you. No, i dont know better, i said that. Im letting the dealership take care of the problem, its their business, their supposed to know best. Its under warranty ... I DONT CARE ANYMORE!!

you just had to toss in that little asshole tag line at the end didn't you?

uh,

mm got it right..

to the op... the fuel pump harness has been a problem on one or two posts here..

beers :beer:

cool! .... let mazda figure it out
i didnt buy a new car to have to tell them what to fix and check for. I have another car that I get to do diagnostic/fixing on, NOT this one.

you just had to toss in that little asshole tag line at the end didn't you?

Yeah, I did. Thanks for noticing! You are super awesome.

swap = replace parts. Its the same thing,


Replace = you pay and the parts stay.
Swap = they use shop parts for diagnosis, and then take them back out again. No cost to you - its part of the process outlined in the FSM.

cool! .... let mazda figure it out
i didnt buy a new car to have to tell them what to fix and check for.

Good luck with that.
Hopefully, your experience wont be typical.

Replace = you pay and the parts stay.
Swap = they use shop parts for diagnosis, and then take them back out again. No cost to you - its part of the process outlined in the FSM.

warranty = i dont pay for shit :D:



Good luck with that.
Hopefully, your experience wont be typical.

my experience hasnt been typical. My service guys are awesome, its the car that we're all having issues with.

almost 100 miles on it since I got it back yesterday late afterno0n. So far so go0d, no engine shutoffs/limp mode.
Every other time, its reproduced the problem within a few miles of me getting it back.
I drove at all throttle ranges and speeds. Downshifting, winding it out, making it beep ... a lot.
so it seems the engine harness replacement and pinout check from ecu to throttle control worked.

ive been celebrating the independence of my nation by beating the crap out of a car that wasnt made here.

swapping ecu/battery would of just added 2 more steps. This was a dbw system problem. Seems they followed the right fsm or whatever after all.

no donuts for you! :):

How much do you want to bet that they followed one of the first steps in the diagnostic tree and checked using a known-good PCM and battery?

id bet a lot
since I saw everything they change/tested/replaced. They never once touched my battery or pcm, b/c thats not where the problem was

id bet a lot
since I saw everything they change/tested/replaced. They never once touched my battery or pcm, b/c thats not where the problem was


so where was the problem???

beers :beer:

it was in the drive by wire system.
engine harness replacement fixed it. Also, im noticing easier engine starts and better idling.

So, they replaced the harness without touching the PCM?
Magic.

I find it funny that pass was criticizing MM on the matter of "parts-swapping" and defending the actions of his chosen service department when, in fact, those roles were reversed. If the dealer had properly tested the parts before replacing them they would have discovered them all to be within spec and ended up with the conclusion far sooner than 6 service orders. Additionaly, pass, MM hit it on the head and you haven't even thanked nor credited him for it. You bad boy......

he didnt hit anything on the head, nor was I ever asking what others thought was wrong with my car. I was merely stating the stuff they were doing to my car.

They tested said devices to ensure they were working, but no swaps or replacements of the PCM or battery were done.

wires and plugs were replaced b/c they were corroded. TPS sensors were replaced because APP1 and APP2 were showing different voltages, motor mounts (guess b/c they were still old design). Throttle pedal and throttle body were replaced b/c I dont know why, but I assume they were tested and found to be faulty. All of these parts are a related system, the DBW/throttle control .... NOT the pcm or battery.

If the dialogue you enter on the forum is not intended to be two-way, why post it at all? If you are just venting your spleen next time make that clear, bitch to MNAO and see where that gets ya, and the rest of us will refrain from responding to that which we read.

if you dont see a ... what do you think is wrong with it? ... then im not asking anyones opinions

I can come on here and post what i want, and will continue to do so. So far, I have nothing to bitch to MNAO about so why would I call them?

Refusing to proffer a question in a public statement on a public forum does not preclude one from receiving a response, hence my suggestion. If that is too difficult for you......

i never said dont offer up suggestions as to what you think is wrong. However, I think you missed some of my previous posts. I DID NOT buy a new car to tell them what to check/change/fix. You can offer up whatever you want, more power to ya.

Doesnt mean im going to listen/suggest it to my service rep. I paid go0d money for my car/warranty and am not getting paid to diagnose the problems with it. Thats Mazda's job.


edit: the Renesis didnt bite the dust. Some part of the wiring harness did though.

I'm going to jump in here by saying there were too many issues that still persisted after things were swapped for the service department to have done everything properly. They couldn't have. It wouldn't have been in multiple times for the same issues. It would have been in once and only 1 thing would have been dealt with. You can defend the dealership all you want but the fact remains that they got to the solution the hard and long way and not how they should have done it. I won't defend anyone working on my car who uses unneccesary items and needs a half a dozen times to figure it out. It sounds like they had a hunch and rather than test that hunch they just swapped a part and prayed the issue would go away. That's typical anymore.

If you are going to replace everything to diagnose and get rid of a problem, maybe the best place to start is with the mechanic!

If you are going to replace everything to diagnose and get rid of a problem, maybe the best place to start is with the mechanic!

here here! i agree
Like I said before, they were throwin parts at it and hoping 1 would fix it. Wasnt until the tech here spent 2 days on the phone with a regional engineer at MNAO in california that they got to the bottom of it.

Im not defending the dealership at all. The techs did a lousy and piss-po0r job of diagnosing and fixing the car properly. However, my service reps seem to be pretty standup guys. Every other time I got my car back, it did the same thing within like 5 miles at the most. Seems they didnt do a test drive or whatever. But over 100 miles on it now and no problems.

Must be a kentucky thing with people at stealerships not being able to work on cars properly. My g/f's '05 2500HD truck has been in 3 times for gauge check/replacement b/c of a speedo that shows the wrong mph. I got pulled over and ticketed b/c of it while driving back to my parents house in FL. Got out of the ticket but the damn speedo STILL isnt right. So its not just mazda that cant seem to get things right the first 3 or so times.

well said RG.
You can praise your service advisors all you want (if they're friendly, kiss your ass, and follow up quickly) BUT there is a greater issue here and it is with your Technicians.

Frankly put: Time is money and if you took 6 different trips to the dealership to fix something that was misdiagnosed 5 times, that's a problem.

Glad they finally got it right...

I have addressed the general incompetence of dealership mechanics and the structure of that particular system in prior posts/threads. The dealership tends to be the first rung on a mechanic's career ladder, hence their typical difficulties in getting it right the first time. What's worse is that the ISO-9001+ process dumbs the people down who need to learn the most.

I was in Ashland, Kentucky last week.
I'd say the problem was the mechs were probably too morbidly obese to get close enough to fix the thing.
That, or staring at it blankly for 20 or 30 minutes yielded no results...

kentucky is a beautiful place, but yes, the native inhabitants leave a little to be desired. We arent the sickest state in the union for nothin!

please note: I was born and am from Florida originally.

Charles ~ i just noticed your movin from detroit to phoenix ... holy crap talk about a scenery change! Hope ya like the heat and the color beige.

I was amazed at how many hospitals there are in Kentucky.
Ashland is a tiny town, but it has more hospitals than Phoenix!
Is there more disease there or are the hospitals and insurance companies just drumming up business somehow?

BTW - You should change the title of the thread since the failure had nothing to do with the motor.

before we moved here (1.5 years ago), I found an article talking about how kentucky is the sickest state in the nation. In terms of obesity, heart disease, lung cancer, and just general health. They remind me of the brits in regards to their lack of dental hygeine.

note-tried to change the title, could only change title of my original posting, was thinkin about how I should change it earlier. How can I change the title of the thread?

I know a lot of computer techs that work the same way as the mechanics did on your car. The computer cannot connect to the internet so let's replace the network card and start from there.

note-tried to change the title, could only change title of my original posting, was thinkin about how I should change it earlier. How can I change the title of the thread?

Ask and ye shall receive!

I figured I spent the first half of my life with snow why not spend the second half with heat. I am flying home today but coming back in a month and I miss the place already. Having friends like MM, chickenwafer, and Easy_E1 encouraging me to move out here deosn't make my trip back home any easier. Gotta go get my kids and bring them out so they can see AZ before we move here. Plus, I am told that Phoenix needs a cool shop to service the RX-8 and other cars.

Your car still running/operating properly, pass?

yea man, so far so go0d. Ive been beating the crap out of it and cant get it to reproduce the error. And ive been having loads of fun doing so. Its been almost 2 months since ive really been able to drive my car like this.

on a side note. I had a small wreck awhile ago. Messed up the right rear suspension and wheel. I bought a complete right rear suspension off a 07 rx8 and just swapped the whole thing in there. I think the shock got messed up, its stuck in the compressed position. Gonna order a new one.
However, heres my problem. Every so often, while driving normally, usually straight. The ABS, traction control, and ebrake lights come on. Turn key off and back on and they go away.
Any idea whats causing this?

Probably sensor, connector, or harness damage from the same incident........ I was tempted to revisit the harness argument from the previous page but I couldn't do it.:)

yea man, so far so go0d. Ive been beating the crap out of it and cant get it to reproduce the error. And ive been having loads of fun doing so. Its been almost 2 months since ive really been able to drive my car like this.

on a side note. I had a small wreck awhile ago. Messed up the right rear suspension and wheel. I bought a complete right rear suspension off a 07 rx8 and just swapped the whole thing in there. I think the shock got messed up, its stuck in the compressed position. Gonna order a new one.
However, heres my problem. Every so often, while driving normally, usually straight. The ABS, traction control, and ebrake lights come on. Turn key off and back on and they go away.
Any idea whats causing this?

wow,
advice now,, mazda will take care of it.. but your car has a boo boo..

beers :beer:

see, swoope hit it ... in this post, im actually asking for opinions, hah!

nothing was damaged on the front of the car at all. This was exclusive damage to the right rear. I unbolted all the unequal length arms that hold the rear suspension in place, detache the axle and abs sensor. bolted the new arms into place, ho0ked up the abs and the axle and it all went together fine.

I know its a question that might need more input to try to figure out whats wrong. Ad far as mazda figuring it out ... maybe not. I replaced the suspension components myself so i'd have to pay mazda to lo0k at it. Guess i'll replace the broked strut and see what happens. is it possible for the sensor to become jarred and operate defectively occasionally?

see, swoope hit it ... in this post, im actually asking for opinions, hah!

nothing was damaged on the front of the car at all. This was exclusive damage to the right rear. I unbolted all the unequal length arms that hold the rear suspension in place, detache the axle and abs sensor. bolted the new arms into place, ho0ked up the abs and the axle and it all went together fine.

I know its a question that might need more input to try to figure out whats wrong. Ad far as mazda figuring it out ... maybe not. I replaced the suspension components myself so i'd have to pay mazda to lo0k at it. Guess i'll replace the broked strut and see what happens. is it possible for the sensor to become jarred and operate defectively occasionally?

wow,

i got some ideas,, but hey after the non love. some how i cant see the light...

honest in honest out...

mazda has the answer..

gfl..


beers :beer:

I recently had to disconnect the ABS distribution module connector under the hood, without disconnecting the battery, on an 8 and had several lights afterward. The e-brake wasn't one of them though.

I recently had to disconnect the ABS distribution module connector under the hood, without disconnecting the battery, on an 8 and had several lights afterward. The e-brake wasn't one of them though.

nope.

beers :beer:

wow,

i got some ideas,, but hey after the non love. some how i cant see the light...

honest in honest out...

mazda has the answer..

gfl..


beers :beer:


uhh ... sure (edit: whos being dishonest here?)

mazda does not have the answer btw, its not going there for this issue. As far as im concerned, it acn keep doign this for the next 2 years I have the lease for. It doesnt drive any different when these 3 lights come on so wtf-ever ... let it eat.

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=92625

yep,

i get confused sometimes just to make a post..

good luck..

btw, that post has nothing to do with your issue..

beers :beer: