View Full Version : Finally a TSB for Water in the Rear combination light.


nycgps
04-22-2007, 09:53 AM
http://www.finishlineperformance.com/rx8/docs/pdf/09-014-07-1795.pdf

God damn it, that took Mazda a LONG WHILE to issue this tsb ....

let me print it out ...

Everyone who has/had this problem, if u're still in warranty, print this out and bring it to da dealership !

If you're out of warranty, the new gasket cost about 30 something 40 bux, its easy to replace it urself !

Imidazole
04-22-2007, 11:29 AM
What country calls that a combination light? I call it a tail-light.

ken-x8
04-22-2007, 11:40 AM
I think he's from Queens.

SmokeyTheBalrog
04-22-2007, 12:26 PM
Ah, that country.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uRPo0SmXE4

nycgps
04-22-2007, 07:44 PM
I think thats what Mazda calls them.

Nothing to do with me, I still call them tail light.

ken-x8
04-22-2007, 08:24 PM
Queens is a multi-national society. It was perfectly OK (politically correct, in fact) for you to post using the TSB's native language.

Ken

SC-ed
04-22-2007, 09:36 PM
How the shinka lights are different?

Paul_in_DC
04-22-2007, 09:49 PM
Holy just in time Batman! I just noticed some condensation in my tail light this weekend. :D: :icon_tup:

loco4rx8
04-22-2007, 09:57 PM
Yep, this is really timely. I just got the condensation for the first time last week at 77,000 miles. It's almost evaporated now, but I assume it will be back. I'll take this TSB with me next time I need an oil change. Thanks for posting!

nycgps
04-23-2007, 12:09 AM
Yep, this is really timely. I just got the condensation for the first time last week at 77,000 miles. It's almost evaporated now, but I assume it will be back. I'll take this TSB with me next time I need an oil change. Thanks for posting!

You have extended warranty or something ? cuz 77K miles Im think u're out of the *normal* warranty already :P

nycgps
04-23-2007, 12:14 AM
Queens is a multi-national society. It was perfectly OK (politically correct, in fact) for you to post using the TSB's native language.

Ken

Im just saying


For those who *dont* have this problem yet .... its easy to make it a *problem* just open them ... pour bit of water in it ...... :wiggle: .... bring it to dealership .... and start bitching ... *cough*

ZoomZoomH
04-23-2007, 12:18 AM
damn, so if i've never had condensation i still should get this new gasket?

r0tor
04-23-2007, 08:26 AM
why is it that people here think they need a TSb to get something fixed... i had my lights replaced like 2 years ago -shrug-

if its broke - take it in and get it fixed at that time
if its not broke - why do you care?

r0tor
04-23-2007, 08:30 AM
Im just saying


For those who *dont* have this problem yet .... its easy to make it a *problem* just open them ... pour bit of water in it ...... :wiggle: .... bring it to dealership .... and start bitching ... *cough*


this is why i hate this forum more and more... I don't know if i should report you to Mazda, beg Tommy to take down the TSBs, or punch you in the face for lowering my resale value :icon_tdow

nycgps
04-23-2007, 08:30 AM
why is it that people here think they need a TSb to get something fixed... i had my lights replaced like 2 years ago -shrug-

Because it will happen, eventually.

the reason it happen is the with the older gasket, overtime dirt can build up around the middle light area, when dirt finally clog the whole thing the water has nowhere to go and it slides into the singal light hole, thats where you got your water from. (base on my examination of my issue)

Simple fix (if you're out of warranty), is that you can pull the gasket out, clean it, put it back.

not sure if the new gasket can fix it completely, but hey its worth a shot.

ZoomZoomH
04-23-2007, 10:46 AM
Because it will happen, eventually.

the reason it happen is the with the older gasket, overtime dirt can build up around the middle light area, when dirt finally clog the whole thing the water has nowhere to go and it slides into the singal light hole, thats where you got your water from. (base on my examination of my issue)

Simple fix (if you're out of warranty), is that you can pull the gasket out, clean it, put it back.

not sure if the new gasket can fix it completely, but hey its worth a shot.

someone should write up a tail light gasket replacement DIY for those of us that are out of warranty and want to install the updated gasket.

loco4rx8
04-23-2007, 12:21 PM
You have extended warranty or something ? cuz 77K miles Im think u're out of the *normal* warranty already :P

No kidding. I still need to get it fixed. Now that there's a TSB, I can point at it and tell them to fix it that way rather than just replace the whole tail light assembly. Which is probably what they would have automatically done without this TSB.

nycgps
04-23-2007, 12:40 PM
someone should write up a tail light gasket replacement DIY for those of us that are out of warranty and want to install the updated gasket.

I'll do it then. :D

but my dad took the digi camera today, so cant do it till tomorrow

nycgps
04-23-2007, 12:44 PM
No kidding. I still need to get it fixed. Now that there's a TSB, I can point at it and tell them to fix it that way rather than just replace the whole tail light assembly. Which is probably what they would have automatically done without this TSB.

You dont need to replace the assembly at all, unless theres a crack somewhere.

Its all about the gasket. if you want to save 30 bux u can just take your old one out, wash it with soap. put it on a some old newspaper(cuz newspaper absorb water FAST!) blow dry the rest of the stuff with hair dryer

loco4rx8
04-23-2007, 03:00 PM
Great! I anxiously await your DIY. I have no idea how to get at my tail light. I'm a girl, don't work on cars. :)

But I bet money, my dealer would not have even tried to fix the tail light. They would've said, "Oh, you need a new one. That'll be $300, please."

Thanks.

nycgps
04-23-2007, 03:58 PM
Great! I anxiously await your DIY. I have no idea how to get at my tail light. I'm a girl, don't work on cars. :)

But I bet money, my dealer would not have even tried to fix the tail light. They would've said, "Oh, you need a new one. That'll be $300, please."

Thanks.

Dealership cant say no, cuz its a known problem, unless u're out of warranty.

I will do my DIY tomorrow. the process is pretty straight forward. I accidently cut myself while doing it, but nothing major. :)

New Yorker
04-23-2007, 08:02 PM
How the shinka lights are different?They have "semi gloss bezels". (The plastic "silver" part of the trim is a different shade. A little darker. Kinda like the difference in color between regular and Shinka RX-8 wheels.)

jeffe19007
04-23-2007, 08:48 PM
Don't need no stinkin' TSB!

The dealership took care of mine a couple weeks ago.

The said it was the little leaves that were in the tail lights that tipped them off.

Whatever. Got new ones. I hope they make it another 100,000 mile without condensation! I will be pretty pissed if this happens again off warranty.

Dealership made it pretty easy other than the wait for the replacements.

Shinka-05
04-23-2007, 08:53 PM
I went in today for a missfire problem, and told them to replace the other side for my tail-light as I noticed it was fogged. so, now I have replaced both sides.

ninjarama
04-24-2007, 12:15 AM
I noticed my tail lens fogged up on my '05 after it rained a few weeks ago... i thought it was a normal thing. I guess not! It hasn't damaged anything yet and I don't think it left any dry water marks.

Thanks for the tip!

nycgps
04-24-2007, 11:16 AM
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?p=1846238#post1846238

DIY posted !

(Can someone tell me why my pictures are not showing up in the post?, I did use the [ img ] tag)

NEWireless
04-24-2007, 12:40 PM
I had condensation on the Left after 3 years.

Bought a used light on e-bay, sealed with silocone, and it filled-up with water the first time it rained.

Took the gasket off the e-bay light and doubled on the OEM light with no silocone.

No leaks since.

nycgps
04-24-2007, 12:46 PM
I had condensation on the Left after 3 years.

Bought a used light on e-bay, sealed with silocone, and it filled-up with water the first time it rained.

Took the gasket off the e-bay light and doubled on the OEM light with no silocone.

No leaks since.

Thats the whole point of the TSB, the new gasket is thicker than the old one.

zoom44
04-24-2007, 06:35 PM
you have to load the pics up to each post instead of just linking to them. we do that so in case your host site should ever go away the pics are here to stay

loco4rx8
04-24-2007, 10:31 PM
Thanks for posting the DIY, nycgps!

nycgps
04-24-2007, 11:39 PM
you have to load the pics up to each post instead of just linking to them. we do that so in case your host site should ever go away the pics are here to stay

I tried to put the [ img ] tag, but it wouldnt load :( for some reason

I can upload it on rx8club.com, but I have to resize them down the size, and it will not be as clear as it is now .....

RC1998
07-03-2007, 09:35 PM
Hey ny , thanks for the link - it's great help.