A friend sent me this message. He didn't disclose the source. I was wondering if anyone else heard anything about this?

"Production of the new Mazda RX-8 has hit a problem, workers in the new plant producing the groundbreaking Renesis engine have forgoten to place the seals around the second rotor, all models currently produced have to be disassembled and the second rotor seal added, this will postpone the release of the RX-8 until the third quarter of 2003"

I'll keep looking to actually confirm this myself. --curtlo

i was still under the assumption that nothing had been built yet except for engines and cars used in testing. i had not heard that even started producing engines in any amountso far.

Let's hope not! I've been waiting 2 years now, I can't wait longer! :D

I pretty much doubt that claim. Mazda has most certainly not started "for sale" production on either the RENESIS or the RX-8. And if they were doing pre-production runs, they found a problem and likely fixed it immediately.

I hightly doubt the validity of that statement.

Extremely unlikely.

If the cars were that far along, why would replacing the seals really delay more than a day or two? It would not add many months. Forgetting to install the seals? I doubt that also.

I'm not surprised your friend didn't reveal the sources. it might have been Nissan though.
Anyway, it's a load of CaCa.

Yep. "Job One" hasn't even started yet. It shouldn't take too long to fix zero engines...

Originally posted by Grimace
Yep. "Job One" hasn't even started yet. It shouldn't take too long to fix zero engines...
I re-read that and had to laugh :D

Originally posted by boowana
I'm not surprised your friend didn't reveal the sources. it might have been Nissan though.
Anyway, it's a load of CaCa.
i had that same nissan thought! evrybody is taking my ideas today!:(

Originally posted by Grimace
Yep. "Job One" hasn't even started yet. It shouldn't take too long to fix zero engines...

Unless they've been used for kamikaze strikes...

-S

Well that's the last time I'll look to that guy for information, haha. Sorry about the shake-up if there was any. One thought did cross my mind on this subject. I know nothing about the manufacturing process of vehicles, but could there be a possibility that they're already beginning to build the engines somewhere? From differing sources of information on the car, it seems they're changing some parts on the body of the car but is it possible that they've already got the engine and drivetrain plans complete for production? Everyone seems confident that the engine stats that are out are not going to change from the current reports. I don't know, I probably have no point here, I'm just desperately looking for any signs of progress towards the release of the car.

The Renesis engine is already being used in the open-wheeled Mazda Star racing Series. They had one at SS5. It is not an untested engine. :)

Originally posted by Shoe


Unless they've been used for kamikaze strikes...

-S

...so that would be Mitsubishi then, right?? Too funny!

Bullcrap. Who will forget to put seals in the 3rd rotor of a series of engines? Only a fearful Nissan employee. Hahaha.

The rumors will run wild as the RX-8 will put to rest many a car that it will be competing with.

For guys with supposedly "inside" information I find it funny that nobody knew that Renesis motors ARE in production! While it is possible to miss seals, Mazda aren't stupid enough to just make a ton of them without actually testing them individually.

If there had have been a stuff-up they would have picked it up on the first motor. Still, it's not like Mazda haven't made mistakes before...

-pete

Forgetting to put the seals around the second rotor is akin to building a 8 cylinder engine where only 4 cylinders have piston rings...
Ain't going to happen unless the motors are being assembled by drunk inbred sight-challenged chimpanzees.

"Ain't going to happen unless the motors are being assembled by drunk inbred sight-challenged chimpanzees."

When did the UAW get to Hiroshima? :D

Seems too far fetched to be believable.

Mazda France confirm the first car in January/feb to show it to the early buyers (including me:o)), and release date for June.

S

So does that mean in Jan or Feb we'll know the prices and option packages the car is going to have?

Base model will be at around $26,000 ;)

We already know it for the "extended" 6 speed version.

Originally posted by Stephan
We already know it for the "extended" 6 speed version.
sorry im a bit dense today and i dont understand your post. could you elaborate?

Price is 38k€ for the 250 hp version.

I have a Mazda France Signed invoice (in fact a reservation - booking sheet).

Hope it's more clear :)

thanks for clearing that up. can you scan and post that invoice?

Originally posted by Stephan
Price is 38k€ for the 250 hp version.

I have a Mazda France Signed invoice (in fact a reservation - booking sheet).

Hope it's more clear :)

Is my BS meter is registering TILT?

Why would anyone pay 38K euro for the Mazda 6 when you should be able to purchase the RX-8 for less than 30k euro? My understanding is that one-euro is worth approximately one US dollar. If my dollar conversion is even close, you should be able to purchase an RX-8 for less than 30k euro, why would you buy a Mazda 6 for so much more?

Assuming my conversion rate is even close and your taxes are not totally crazy (they cannot be worst than in Canada) I do not believe that you can produce a “signed anything” from Mazda France that is showing such a purchase or pre-order. If he still claims he did, I cannot wait to hear the excuses as to why he cannot produce the scanned document.

Excuse me while I go fix my BS meter because I think it just blew up.

i agree with your bs meter ZoomZoom but i think he is talking about the rx8 not the mazda6. he said 250hp 6 speed version

Well my BS meter is still buzzing and its ready to explode!!!

Where in the world is Mazda signing “anything” showing real specifications and/or showing actual dollar figures? Mazda France??? I think not.

SHOW us the document!!!

I will scan my invoice, but please believe me it's only the reality.

Don't be shocked I am buying the first black RX8 250 hp 6 speed model for 38K euros (same in dollars).

I know it's more than previuosly told by Mazda, but Mazda France is just the same company than Mazda Japan/USA or whatever. ..

I mean they decide the price they want for which market and the french are the unluncky ones, like ever.

Do you know that the RX7 has never been imported here ?? and that when you want to buy one it's much more expensive than elsewhere (USA for example) ??

I assume that they just decided that for France, and that you will probably have a more competitive price. It will not be the first time that we pay more for a product compared to the US.

Why do you think I buy all my DVDs on amazon.com and not .fr ??

Now, you just have to pray and hope that this is not a bad sign for all of you guys.

Stephan;)

if thats true stephan, you should just go over and by one in the U.K. and drive it back thru the chunnel. it might save you some money.:D

My invoice is more precisly an "order form" made during the Automobile World Paris Fair (largest in the world by number of visitors) and is an official paper to book the car.

No technical details, just the global stuff : Rx8, Black, 250 HP, 6 speed.

Don't tell me I am a fool, ask yourself if you had in front of you the MD of Mazda US proposing that kind of stuff ...

Stephan

buy in the UK will be difficult with their FUK?.?/? wheel on the right ...

Stephan

oops sorry didnt think about that.

this english are really not normal :o)

So no news from you guys ?

You are not fearing a real increase of the retail price finally ?

Stephan