View Full Version : Review: Sprint-Booster throttle mod.
For months now, i've been searching for a non FI solution to help improve my low end - from 'air chargers' (which btw doesn't work, at least on RE remapped ECUs); to octane boosters (which also dun work; and those who follow my review site will know i'm a skeptic when it comes to non-FI widgets that promise the world and delivering jack (e.g. magnets; broquet; tornados; etc).
I've had the honor to be one of the first to try out this newfangled mod that promises improved acceleration and a more responsive throttle - a product called 'Sprint Booster.' Yes, it's such a literal name for a product that it sounds kinda silly, and a bit dodgy. Anyways, i was half-expecting some large thingamagig with a turbine or spooler, with a cool gauge attached to it - nope, the Sprint Booster was a dark grey piece of plastic the size and width of a matchbox.
The Sprint Booster (SB), according to the brochure, works only in drive-by-wire cars, and is a device that improves acceleration by continuously measuring and converting the digital signal provided by the electronic throttle control, and providing the ECU with a new and altered signal. SB is installed behind the accelerator pedal thru its oem connector.
The results:
This device blew my mind. Acceleration improved vastly - it actually did increase low-end by quite a margin - acceleration from stop increased vastly - and boy did that feel really good. Gear changes were definitely much quicker and accelerator responsiveness was magnifed. To put it into perspective, even the slightest touch of the accelerator can send the car lurching forward, and even going uphill (my carpark sloped roundabout) becomes even more effortless. Never before have i come across a mod that increased low-end by such a wide margin right off the bat after the install - simply amazing. Caveat: if you are a new driver or if you're a bit of a clusterfuck in heavy traffic, do yourself a favour and don't get this - that's just how much your low-end will improve, and how sensitive your accelerator will be. For the rest of us, this is one cheap mod i highly recommend!
Here's how I think it works:
Drive by wire means that every time you depress the accelerator, electronic signals are sent to the ecu, which in-turn tells the injectors how much fuel should be 'sprayed' into the rotary. The OEM accelerator pedal controller - whether to save power or just a more inefficient design - probably sends signals at slower frequencies. The SB is more like a DSP that amplifies the signal at a much faster rate to the ecu, cutting any lag time between what we want the car to do vs what it actually does. Since i put this on, i've seen via my numerous gauges a -0.2 reading on voltage - it could be an anomaly or a coincidence, but if that was true, it probably means that the SB is constantly sending signals to the ecu regardless of idle state.
Conclusion:
This is THE MOD to get, and honestly, i'm so happy with the gain in my low-end that i'm considering not investing in a turbo or SC anytime in the near future. The difference is stark, and is definitely not like those mods which you'll have to search hard to feel even the slightest improvement, if at all. The SB retails for about S$400 and is available at Monster Garage.
murix 01-22-2007, 11:21 AM There are devices that have been doing this for some time. It just modifies the ecu throttle input. Instead of spending the money you can just push the pedal down farther.
DaveCM203 01-22-2007, 11:41 AM :spam:
Spin9k 01-22-2007, 11:48 AM An over aggressive accelerator pedal function does not a power gain make - zero - zip - nada - but if you don't believe that, boy have I got some waterfront property in Arizona I've saved out to sell you cheap! PM me quick before the opportunity dries up! :cwm27:
DaveCM203 01-22-2007, 11:51 AM An over aggressive accelerator pedal function does not a power gain make - :cwm27:
I would also worry about it on the track. Especialy when wet. A little too much power too quick and around you go. I tend to get a bit aggressive anyway.
Brettus 01-22-2007, 11:53 AM There are devices that have been doing this for some time. It just modifies the ecu throttle input. Instead of spending the money you can just push the pedal down farther.
heh - thought so . could be time to bring out the meter !
mkl22 01-22-2007, 12:00 PM i rather take the $400 and pump gas....
mysql101 01-22-2007, 12:05 PM I have a $400 product that helps you stop faster. The kit comes with a brick, and twine. One side fits all.
DaveCM203 01-22-2007, 12:12 PM heh - thought so . could be time to bring out the meter !
Is this the meter you are talking about?
:bsmeter:
Brettus 01-22-2007, 12:16 PM ah yes - that would be the one :lol:
lennon 01-22-2007, 07:01 PM gfoo, just like all these bro said, it doesn't increase HP, but a slight increase in low and mid range torque......... Japan has TREC which is the same as the Sprint Booster.....
Emperor 01-22-2007, 09:06 PM Why would it increase torque by amplifying throttle signals? Its like pushing a lift button real hard expecting the lift to come down faster.
Why not spend more and really get a ECU upgrade.
there is no mention of increase torque or bhp...he only sae low end response improve.
lennon 01-22-2007, 09:56 PM Why would it increase torque by amplifying throttle signals? Its like pushing a lift button real hard expecting the lift to come down faster.
Why not spend more and really get a ECU upgrade.
If you uprade your ecu oso cant get that response, amplifying throttle signals ive bigger throttle opening....... I tried TREC once on my turbo, the launch was so powerful, as if i had 500hp on wheel....... But to be true, this is quite a worth mod for NA, you don't drive at high rev most of the time......
StealthTL 01-22-2007, 10:00 PM ....and all this is measured by ?
Ah yes, the ever-popular ButtDyno. :boring:
Bring times or a dyno sheet, or stay home.
S
guys, guys, this mod doesn't do anything to improve HP - nada, zilch, zip. What it does do is make the pedal that much more responsive - launches are quicker and it seems low end torque is better. my best 0-100 time is 9.5, i'll do another gtech run this weekend to see if anything has improved other than butt dyno.
Emperor, i dun really know how this thing works, and that's just my conjecture. i think what it does is increase the signal frequency to the ecu i.e. instead of say 1000instructions per sec, it's boosted up to 2000 ips. something like that. - i could be wrong.
My mods to date:
- RE Amemiya remapped ECU
- Autoexe catback exhaust
- Knight Sports metalit supercat
- RB Revi intake
- Knight sports 4.777 final drive
- assortment of cusco struts/towers/etc
- 8 point grounding linked to impedance stablizer and pivot
- assortment of defi gauges
- gtech
- scanman II canbus/CEL manager
- jdm autoexe front n rear bumpers; INGS sideskirts/spoiler
- Idemitsu rotary or RE Amemiya syn engine oil 30W
- Redline high-temp ATF
- Cusco LSD syn oil
I know a hack and BS when i see one, and on the surface this seems a little too good to be true, but it actually works. Whether you believe it or not, i don't really care coz i'm enjoying my improved low-end - to each his own dudes. Singapore bros (those that i know only hor, not every tomdicknharry), will let you try my ride the next meetup.
Disclaimer: i ain't selling this thing, am a customer that paid full price just like any other, neither do i own shares or have any vested interests with the retailer
Hahahah, so much skeptism. Too many mods in your car that you dont realli know what works and what doesnt..
Love you.
lol..... this one can tell the diff - i also was damned surprised lor - you know i hate those two three hundred widgets you find in those hack places like mcwell and sung bee auto. i haven't been so happy over a mod. but really, once you get this you have to be much more careful in heavy traffic and esp in carparks. a small tap gives you a huge lurch - almost langa my 8 into carpark retainer wall earlier. now much change driving style
just hope that the gains stay that way - sekali ecu goes and relearn parameters then chialat liao
Guys, totally understand your skepticism. hey, dun take my word for it. go do a google on 'sprint booster' and do your research. e.g.
http://forums.mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=163724
I ain't the only one raving about this
N rider89 01-23-2007, 12:33 AM hmmm it doesnt have them availible for mazdas on their web site???
i think this just makes the car go full throtle whenever you press down on the gas
swoope 01-23-2007, 12:40 AM Guys, totally understand your skepticism. hey, dun take my word for it. go do a google on 'sprint booster' and do your research. e.g.
http://forums.mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=163724
I ain't the only one raving about this
ah,
the crossfire forums.. then it all makes sense now...
beers :beer:
Singapore bros (those that i know only hor, not every tomdicknharry), will let you try my ride the next meetup.
My name is not tom, neither dick nor harry. So can i go first?
allen 01-23-2007, 02:48 AM hmmm it doesnt have them availible for mazdas on their web site???
i think this just makes the car go full throtle whenever you press down on the gas
if u press lightly on the gas petal then the car goes full throttle then wont ur car FC suffer when u are just having a normal drive ( i mean daily driving style)?
I suppose so, but from what gfoo is saying, he has got himself a responsive mod which he is ranting about now. FC is secondary for enthusiast like him..
What he wants next is to conduct a 3rd run with a grey rx8 who won him on 2 occasions.. Hahaha..
N rider89 01-23-2007, 03:04 AM yeah i was reading some of the other forums and they said they had to adjust to the way the car now lurches forward when they press on the gas.
but im still not 100% sure if thats what this does
allen 01-23-2007, 03:07 AM I suppose so, but from what gfool is saying, he has got himself a responsive mod which he is ranting about now. FC is secondary for enthusiast like him..
What he wants next is to conduct a 3rd run with a grey rx8 who won him on 2 occasions.. Hahaha..
i assume u r the grey rx8. anyway is gfoo driving a MT or AT? Does it makes a diff for both?
Brettus 01-23-2007, 03:10 AM I can't believe no-one has explained why this does nothing for HP or torque .
gfoo - all you are experiencing is a quicker throttle opening . You would get exactly the same thing if you quickly slammed your foot to the floor every time you accelerated.
Answer to question 1: Hahhaahha.. hes on 4AT. with the best mods ever (see above)
Answer to question 2: No idea
swoope 01-23-2007, 03:15 AM just reset the ecu... that is all that could happen...
sorry, my ass is fast. really i cost 400 bucks..
beers :beer:
swoope 01-23-2007, 03:19 AM SGD400 = approx USD250.
my ass is slim. :)
thanks
beers :beer:
simply8 01-23-2007, 03:20 AM i assume u r the grey rx8. anyway is gfool driving a MT or AT? Does it makes a diff for both?
gfool?.......... :Eyecrazy: ...... :mad:
allen 01-23-2007, 03:25 AM gfool?.......... :Eyecrazy: ...... :mad:
i am sorry typo. gfoo Sorry. dun mean anything. :)
gfool, wah lan oi you tio pah ah? nb
eh fuck it lah guys, i spend time to write a review just to give guys a heads up on what's new in town, and my personal impression, not to bloody get flamed. tis for the benefit of the forummers. you disagree, at least be nice about it, dun have to mock people's name right?
swoope 01-23-2007, 03:35 AM eh fuck it lah guys, i spend time to write a review just to give guys a heads up on what's new in town, and my personal impression, not to bloody get flamed. tis for the benefit of the forummers. you disagree, at least be nice about it.
sorry if you were flamed, i am out of my hemisphere,
but you posted this...
http://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php?p=1704594&postcount=19
beers :beer:
just reset the ecu... that is all that could happen...
sorry, my ass is fat. really i cost 400 bucks..
beers :beer:
my ass is slim :bootyshak . :)
thanks
beers :beer:
Wah seh, steady bom pipi, you have a pair of Fat and Slim ass .. must be damn impressive. :bootyshak :bootyshak
derekwcw 01-23-2007, 03:49 AM Okok all,
In this thread at the moment, none of us other than Gfoo have tested this product, and is nice of him to share the results and findings to us.
So lets not flame him no more, but thank him instead. :rock:
Whether the product works or not, we can either purchase and do a trial, have a test-drive in gfoo's car or have a drag with him :hahano:
Gfoo, come come, tonite lets "Ready, Setto, Go"
swoope 01-23-2007, 03:50 AM Wah seh, steady bom pipi, you have a pair of Fat and Slim ass .. must be damn impressive. :bootyshak :bootyshak
but not making stupid claims..
beers :beer:
It worked for him .. mods are never one size fit all. Good to be skeptical but not flaMMing isnt it so?
Anyways cheers, too much beer no good. Makes you drowsy when u type.. hhahahha.. Joking..
swoope 01-23-2007, 03:57 AM It worked for him .. mods are never one size fit all. Good to be skeptical but not flaMMing isnt it so?
Anyways cheers, too much beer no good. Makes you drowsy when u type.. hhahahha.. Joking..
goofo is still here.
i dont miss type i misspell sometimes...
sorry... no times it is the turbonator...
beers :beer:
swoope 01-23-2007, 03:58 AM sorry.
gfoo
N rider89 01-23-2007, 04:01 AM i in no way meant to flame i just wanted to get a little more detail about this.
so where did you order/get this from because on their site i didnt see mazdas as an availible option?
also how is the driviblilty? would it be a little too much in traffic?
is this basically a thing that goes full throttle when you press on the gas? similar to just stomping on the gas but is more responsive?
these are just what people are skeptic about
swoope 01-23-2007, 04:07 AM gfoo.
pm
beers :beer:
Swerve76 01-23-2007, 04:08 AM I love racing 4AT's ;)
to be fair you can only use 4 of your gears.. since mine is 4AT
Swerve76 01-23-2007, 04:31 AM to be fair you can only use 4 of your gears.. since mine is 4AT
On that logic then I should really use just 3 gears as you are quite a bit heavier than me bro ;)
swoope 01-23-2007, 04:33 AM gfoo.
pm
beers :beer:
so
gfoo.
pm sent recived...
this whole post is bs...
and i mean that in a kinder genter way...
beers :beer:
StealthTL 01-23-2007, 04:56 AM I don't think anybody would object to a review of a mod that you, personally, have found worthwhile - the problem arises when the title reads like this one "The ONLY proven mod that improves low-end torque......"
....that is a title just begging to be refuted.
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On that logic then I should really use just 3 gears as you are quite a bit heavier than me bro ;)
Its ok ... i give u a head start since youre not locally local, Zhang Yo yo
morganoh 01-23-2007, 08:55 AM Would really love to find out what would be the fuel comsumption after 2-3 tanks.
Thanks
Morgan Oh
Silver Shadow 01-23-2007, 10:29 PM Ahh... The rhetoric of advertising. I wonder if the thread starter really has not fiduciary interest at all. He has a website too right?
Swerve76 01-23-2007, 11:00 PM Ahh... The rhetoric of advertising. I wonder if the thread starter really has not fiduciary interest at all. He has a website too right?
Forum has been catty enuff lately bro...lets not go there k? :D
simply8 01-23-2007, 11:09 PM Ahh... The rhetoric of advertising. I wonder if the thread starter really has not fiduciary interest at all. He has a website too right?
absolutely no interest at all......he's just kind enough to spend time to do all the reviews and keep us inform...pls dont wonder his good intention and start another war here!!! :bowdown:
for those have doubt...just move on after reading.
allen 01-23-2007, 11:17 PM gfoo bro please kindly post if your FC is affected after you install this?
I am interested in this too after reading the reviews.
CoupeM 01-24-2007, 04:42 AM Ahh... The rhetoric of advertising. I wonder if the thread starter really has not fiduciary interest at all. He has a website too right?
I can vouch for him. Please wonder no more and stir shit no more. Thank you.
Hi all, just want to make it clear that i have absolutely no fiduciary or vested interests in the product, or with any of the retailers carrying it. My sole interest in doing this, as with my other reviews is for the good and benefit of the Singapore RX8 community. heck my reviews site doesn't even have Google Ads so i dun earn a single cent.
I'll post my FC impressions shortly - let me get thru one tank first lah.
Again, this mod DOES NOT improve HP at all. But whatever it is, launches from standstill is so much faster that it SEEMS as though torque has improved. Whether or not this is accurate demands a dyno - perhaps the retailer can help in this respect and post some dyno charts?
Whether or not i can save $400 and just train my feet to fully depress the pedal is one thing . What's more important for me is the fun factor i derive from my ride and with this, the car is really responsive, gear changes are much faster - and it def is a better drive.
Are u ready for a rematch?
I can vouch for him. Please wonder no more and stir shit no more. Thank you.
You vouch? Hmmmm... how much vouchers are you getting from Mr Foo? :spank:
CoupeM 01-24-2007, 09:13 AM Shit..let u see thru liao..now i have to tell the truth. okok..i am only getting a few ktv vouchers from him. next time we together go and use ai mai?? hahahaha
SoFL_RX8 01-24-2007, 10:51 AM I have a DIY for this mod.
Step one: Push the Accelerator all the way to the floor.
Step Two: keep it there.
Spykie 01-24-2007, 10:59 AM Guess if anyone is curious, go try it out before posting all the nonsense (almost 5 pages and counting...).
Aren't we all trying to get the best out of our rides? And thank you gfoo for the review.
If this forum is just a outlet for you to BS and suan, "sighs"... get a life!
CoupeM 01-24-2007, 11:22 AM I love you spykie! Hahahaha
devilish8 01-24-2007, 11:24 AM You vouch? Hmmmm... how much vouchers are you getting from Mr Foo? :spank:
I just installed the sprint booster today and I have only one word for it...Awesome. :rock:
I thoroughly enjoyed this little matchbox mod...and I think all you skeptics out there should give it a try on your car before making any judgement...cos it doesn't matter whether or not you like the logic behind this tiny box...I'm still very confident that most of you will not bear to dismantle it, after taking it out for a ride.
Well...my car is also available for test-drive, just to share with you guys what this interesting mod is all about...and if you don't happen to like it...well, u can just keep your mouth shut and laugh at me behind my back...i don't really care. Bottomline is simple...I'm happy with it and it's $$$ well spent....in Hokkien, it's called "GUM WAN"...
Thanks for the review gfoo...I appreciate your posts and your little website.
DaveCM203 01-24-2007, 11:25 AM I think I will pass. If this does what you say, my heel/toe downshifts will be all f'd up.
Brettus 01-24-2007, 12:58 PM Again, this mod DOES NOT improve HP at all. But whatever it is, launches from standstill is so much faster that it SEEMS as though torque has improved. Whether or not this is accurate demands a dyno - perhaps the retailer can help in this respect and post some dyno charts?
Whether or not i can save $400 and just train my feet to fully depress the pedal is one thing . What's more important for me is the fun factor i derive from my ride and with this, the car is really responsive, gear changes are much faster - and it def is a better drive.
gfoo - If you had posted this in your first post you would have been taken more seriously & no flames .
Saying it increased torque in your title set the tone for the rest of the thread.
orh lah, my bad, my bad. chaoangmh
lennon 01-24-2007, 06:54 PM orh lah, my bad, my bad. chaoangmh
hahhaha....... Angmoh si ani kuan eh....
Jun Bo, wo ma si ang seh mo le. Mai Stereotype la..
See carefully la.. im Ang Moh..
Kekekek.I think those ang mohS must be scratching their heads by now.. kekkeke
sandman369 01-24-2007, 10:26 PM I just installed the sprint booster today and I have only one word for it...Awesome. :rock:
I thoroughly enjoyed this little matchbox mod...and I think all you skeptics out there should give it a try on your car before making any judgement...cos it doesn't matter whether or not you like the logic behind this tiny box...I'm still very confident that most of you will not bear to dismantle it, after taking it out for a ride.
Well...my car is also available for test-drive, just to share with you guys what this interesting mod is all about...and if you don't happen to like it...well, u can just keep your mouth shut and laugh at me behind my back...i don't really care. Bottomline is simple...I'm happy with it and it's $$$ well spent....in Hokkien, it's called "GUM WAN"...
Thanks for the review gfoo...I appreciate your posts and your little website.
I have a friend who installed similar gadget in his alfa and he liked it too.
to me, it's a gadget that allows modification to throttle response, similar to that of brake stopper (doesnt improve braking distance but improve responsiveness). some like it more responsive, some not: it's an individual preference. that's one reason why cars are mostly driven-by-wire: room for modification to suit one's preference.
also, think no one deserves so much bashing over a misrepresentation. Oh ya, gfoo: would like to also thank you for the efforts in making the post! very informative.
kum sia kum sia, i quite kumtong over all the support bros have given me!!! If ever bump into you guys at garage or meetup, milo ping on me.
sandman369 01-24-2007, 10:34 PM I think I will pass. If this does what you say, my heel/toe downshifts will be all f'd up.
think no one here is interested in your preference. also, no one is interested to know you can't handle changes, specifically when given a car with more responsive throttle.
lawreo 01-27-2007, 08:19 PM i have also installed the SB recently and i loved it ....although it might need a bit of getting used to.
thanks gfoo for the review , thumbs up
DaveCM203 01-27-2007, 08:50 PM think no one here is interested in your preference. also, no one is interested to know you can't handle changes, specifically when given a car (#) with more responsive throttle.
Got something up your a$$? Where did that come from. I never said anything bad about the product. I just said I would pass. It took me a bit of work to get used to the rotory to match revs properly. I would hate it if the throttle was more sensitive. Everyone has different needs and different driving styles. If it fits you, great. I don't think that it would fit me. I am not going to spend my money on something that more than likely will not fit my needs. Especialy reading how some people almost hit things because of the added response. Will it give me too much when I am trying to get on the throttle in a corner? Will I have trouble using the throttle to help me drive the car in the corners? I am not rich. I would rather not spend my money on something that I don't know if the changes I would even like. Especialy for something that does nothing for the real performance of the car.
Swerve76 01-30-2007, 10:20 AM :rofl:
Why dont somebody just do some timed runs (standing start / rolling start) without the damn thing and then the exact same runs with the damn thing on?
Post the times here and then all will be clear.
Quit bitching FFS.
Hahahaha.... heng ni si ang moh bu zhai xin jia po.. yao bu ran wo jiu qing ni chi xiang jiao.
Lets find out on Sunday the 11th shall we..
xacidx 01-30-2007, 01:53 PM 11th got simi?
coupe07 01-30-2007, 10:08 PM The sprint booster DOES NOT increase horsepower. Timed runs WILL NOT give you better timing.
For daily driving, it gives you better response. THATS ALL. Key word is BETTER RESPONSE.
Some like it, some dun. Some says good, some says no difference. Personal preference for each individual. No point arguing over one's preference.
This is especially more useful for those AT drivers, who are always in "D" mode. Those who play with tiptronic always, may not see much difference.
lawreo 01-30-2007, 11:54 PM I agree with coupe07 as i have fixed one myself.
i feel that its mainly better response during gear 1 and 2 ....which can be a bit lagging at times for 4AT. Last time my right foot always felt abit sore over an hr or so of driving. But now, with the SB, i only have to deflect the pedal very lightly to get the acceleration i want. In all, my right foot feels less stressed.
BTW, one question: If i fixed up the final gear 4.777 with this SB, what will the scenario be like? even better response or....?
cheers
patrick331 02-01-2007, 01:44 AM Guys, click these links and read on the comments from other peoples with other car models. http://forums.mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1769593
http://forums.mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=163724
Thanks to gfoo, his statment makes me check on the SB and finally find a way to solve the "lack of power" problem I have from stand still to go or overtaking instead of buying the supercharge or turbo. I shall have this installed by next week or so and i will also post my feeling about it later on. btw, im from hk and it cost appox US$320.00 w/installation from their dealer in HK.
patrick331 03-22-2007, 08:17 AM money well spent and im just monitoring the gas milage for now.
WarmFreedom 10-15-2007, 03:55 AM bro.. dont get too worked up..i believe yr review becos ive heard fr various sources too. some americans (2fast 2furious types) are very cocky and have the 'know it all attitude', if u see their mods..they tend to go for the extreme approch even the japs wont go there, becos 'balance' is not in their vocab. they are the western equivilant of 'ah bengs' so let it be.. ill be getting SB soon, whats more i can try it before i buy.
guys, guys, this mod doesn't do anything to improve HP - nada, zilch, zip. What it does do is make the pedal that much more responsive - launches are quicker and it seems low end torque is better. my best 0-100 time is 9.5, i'll do another gtech run this weekend to see if anything has improved other than butt dyno.
Emperor, i dun really know how this thing works, and that's just my conjecture. i think what it does is increase the signal frequency to the ecu i.e. instead of say 1000instructions per sec, it's boosted up to 2000 ips. something like that. - i could be wrong.
My mods to date:
- RE Amemiya remapped ECU
- Autoexe catback exhaust
- Knight Sports metalit supercat
- RB Revi intake
- Knight sports 4.777 final drive
- assortment of cusco struts/towers/etc
- 8 point grounding linked to impedance stablizer and pivot
- assortment of defi gauges
- gtech
- scanman II canbus/CEL manager
- jdm autoexe front n rear bumpers; INGS sideskirts/spoiler
- Idemitsu rotary or RE Amemiya syn engine oil 30W
- Redline high-temp ATF
- Cusco LSD syn oil
I know a hack and BS when i see one, and on the surface this seems a little too good to be true, but it actually works. Whether you believe it or not, i don't really care coz i'm enjoying my improved low-end - to each his own dudes. Singapore bros (those that i know only hor, not every tomdicknharry), will let you try my ride the next meetup.
Disclaimer: i ain't selling this thing, am a customer that paid full price just like any other, neither do i own shares or have any vested interests with the retailer
I'm using TREC since day one. So may not know what is the different between original or with those electronic throttle control mod device on. I think the sprint booster is similar to trec. The theory can be found at http://www.siecle.co.jp/products/trec.html
Brettus 10-15-2007, 04:10 PM anyone who thinks this increases power or torque in any way in any part of the power band is delusional .
All it does is bring full throttle in earlier on the pedal travel - making the car more difficult to drive ..... Maybe if you adjust your seat forward a bit so you can depress the pedal all the way down you would not need this crappy device .
StealthTL 10-15-2007, 04:16 PM The thread title is very misleading, I'll change it....
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normanteozw 01-23-2008, 10:43 AM i know this post quite old. read oso dulan.....
knnbccb ang moh tiam lah... so noisy and kah poh..... ppl gd intentions kena whack. wtf........
Ringer 01-24-2008, 12:12 AM gfoo,
murix' answer is about right. Drive by wire is like an electronic volume control. When you depress accelerator pedal the SB just changes the reading from say 3 into 6, 5 into 10 i.e. as though you pressed the pedal farther, faster.
I tried it couple years ago when MG brought it to the meetup. I was not impressed enough. I am quite fast and adaptive so I kind of quite quickly adjusted my pedal depression naturally and still drive the same way and speed I always did.
Mind DaveCM203's comment about the effect in the rain too. I didn't try that but I can imaging if you didn't naturally adjust your right foot strength you could buang in the wet !
So I told MG if it is much cheaper maybe I would have it to play with and when I tire of it or didn't need the effect I would take it out. Put it back if I want another temp thrill. Not worth spending $400. IMHO.
-Ringer-
MazdaManiac 01-24-2008, 12:23 AM I don't know which is more saddening -
That someone got suckered into buying one of these things or that said sucker spent so much time typing up a defense for the purchase.
A more Wi-Fi version:
http://www.mazdamaniac.com/images/misc/bsmeter.gif
Razz1 01-24-2008, 12:38 AM I'm sure glad you changed the title.
If you think this works try ssome pulse plugs.
http://www.pulstarplug.com/
pundae cibai angmoh, lim peh hua hi leh, cannot ah? go worry your rice bowl and foreclose yourself - no wonder the ROW all hates your cockiness.
MazdaManiac 01-24-2008, 07:55 PM pundae cibai angmoh, lim peh hua hi leh, cannot ah? go worry your rice bowl and foreclose yourself - no wonder the ROW all hates your cockiness.
I take it that was some sort of insult.:lol:
I guess we hit a nerve!
You know, I was thinking about making one of these "Sprint-Boosters", but meant for the brake pedal. Instead of having to push the brake so hard to get maximum stopping power, this thing would just trigger the ABS/DSC to lock up all four wheels as soon as you tap the pedal.
That would be much better!
rx8thunder 04-22-2008, 11:39 AM Bought the sprint booster but having trouble getting it installed. I unplugged the the clip coming off of the gas pedal. I had no problem connecting the SB to the end that goes to the engine but cannot get the end clip that connects to the gas pedal to click in. Maybe they send me the wrong part, but it's marked correctly, or maybe there is some trick to it.
I'm going to send it back for a refund unless any of you guys has any suggestions. Perhaps you had a similar issue?
maxfoong 04-23-2008, 01:55 AM Hi all. Just joined the forum not long ago and saw this interesting thread. I bought the sprint booster knowing its functions.
The technician emphasized on its inability to increase any horses or torque. No increased 0-100 timing. I bought it a year ago and the only difference i could feel was the responsiveness. Before installation, I needed to really depress the throttle to hit 7 1/2 rpm(Redline). After installation, I only needed to depress half.
Kindly comment if I'm wrong.
0-100 timing could be improved by the amount of time i save for depressing the second half of the accelerator.
If full throttle = 0.4seconds
half throttle = 0.2 seconds
0-100 timing improved by 0.2 seconds.(Est)
StealthTL 04-23-2008, 02:53 AM Strange math......
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maxfoong 04-23-2008, 03:34 AM Strange math......
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Put math aside, I can understand ur perspective of the improvements as negligible. But u have to agree with me that it will definitely take a shorter time to do a half throttle than a full throttle. Anyway my calculation is based upon reckless estimation.Pardon me on that. :)
StealthTL 04-23-2008, 04:05 AM Since a 'sprint' involves just changing gears and mashing the pedal-to-the-metal, I don't see where the time saving would occur. The throttle plate is electric, and I'm sure you can plant that pedal faster than it will flip open.
The biggest effect I could anticipate would be that when you ARE trying to use part throttle - to get a smooth start in first gear, you get instead immediate wheelspin off the line, losing those first valuable seconds.......
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rx8phase1 04-23-2008, 04:27 AM i wonder what would happen if you floored it:eek: might just mess up ur engine
maxfoong 04-23-2008, 04:31 AM i wonder what would happen if you floored it:eek: might just mess up ur engine
It wont. Cos it does nothing to ur ECU.
maxfoong 04-23-2008, 04:46 AM Since a 'sprint' involves just changing gears and mashing the pedal-to-the-metal, I don't see where the time saving would occur. The throttle plate is electric, and I'm sure you can plant that pedal faster than it will flip open.
The biggest effect I could anticipate would be that when you ARE trying to use part throttle - to get a smooth start in first gear, you get instead immediate wheelspin off the line, losing those first valuable seconds.......
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My stand is that the SB allows me to to achieve the redline with only half depression on the throttle instead of full. However, I agree that it is only useful in the first gear.Redline to redline could be achieved is u just hold it there.Anyway I don experience much wheel spin on dry conditions. If its wet weather, I have only myself to blame if i floor it. With regards to wheel spin, maybe its just u? :)
Brettus 04-23-2008, 03:24 PM Strange math......
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very restrained comment there stealth - I don't think I would have been so polite .......
Brettus 04-23-2008, 03:26 PM i wonder what would happen if you floored it:eek: might just mess up ur engine
yeh - because your throttle would open 200% and give you double the horsepower for an instant before exploding in a fireball ... YO+++ !!!!111111
swoope 04-24-2008, 01:50 AM yawn,
again..
beers :beer:
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