View Full Version : Spring Track Days --> Which Course Would You Prefer?
KhanMotorsport 12-19-2006, 12:46 PM Hi folks,
we're going to be running at least one track day this spring to kick off the new season and I was hoping to gather some opinions on what you guys would prefer to run.
So far the prime candidates are:
Mosport Pro (Possiblie, depending on cost and logistics)
Dunville
Cayuga's Road Course
Those seem to be the most popular, although if people want to make a bit of a drive, the new Calabogie circuit is open (its about as far as Shanonville i believe).
Feel free to make any additional comments or requests, we will try to accomodate them to the best of our abilities.
This wont be limited to RX-8's only as we do have customers from various other car brands (porsche's for the most part, other mazda's of course, some nissan and subaru folks as well) who would be joining us. You will be more than welcome to bring your friends/colleagues and once we decide on a circuit and the details you'll have more than enough time to pre-register.
Kart Racer 12-19-2006, 02:50 PM I agree with Neo, mosport would be great. However with the high costs, maybe cayuga would be better.
I was at cayuga in the late fall and can tell you that the track layout suits the RX-8 pretty well, better then Dunnville or especially mosport
Blasphemer! lol
Nothing will get you going better than running Mosport! :D
YT1300 12-19-2006, 10:40 PM If the Calabogie circuit is near where the Calabogie ski "hill" is, then for anyone living near Toronto, Shannonville will be closer; Calabogie is close to Ottawa, Shannonville is close to Belleville.
Mosport +1, but it's too far for me to go...
KhanMotorsport 12-19-2006, 10:46 PM I agree with Neo, mosport would be great. However with the high costs, maybe cayuga would be better.
I was at cayuga in the late fall and can tell you that the track layout suits the RX-8 pretty well, better then Dunnville or especially mosport
hehe, the RX-8 was great fun around cayuga, the cayuga infield is really tight but the 8 just gobbles it up, it's fun passing 911's in a rotary :)
I think in the end it will come down to cayuga vs mosport. for mosport we'd need flag martials because of the blind corners and whatnot as well.
having said that, neo, you up for a 10 lap "supa JDM battle!" (gotta say that with a Best Motoring accent :) )
RX8 JET 12-19-2006, 11:17 PM Mosport would be my vote. (not sure what Mosport Pro means but as I read the other replies it looks like it is the Mosport track that I have been on with the wicked turn 2, 4 and tight 5...) :ylsuper:
scoop 12-19-2006, 11:40 PM [QUOTE]Calabogie circuit is open (its about as far as Shanonville i believe)[\QUOTE]
From Toronto I would say probably almost twice as far . . . It's worth a road trip at some point, it's very long and VERY challenging. There are so many corners, elevation changes and a combination there of that it's really hard to remember where you are and what lines to take. It deserves some respect and will take some time to learn . . .
Kart Racer 12-20-2006, 09:08 AM looks like mosport seems to be the choice. Its one hell of a fast track in the 8, as there is alot of entry speed into the corners, but it is awesome fun!!
Khan,
I'm down for "JDM Superbattle!!!" :)
TLovr 12-20-2006, 01:10 PM you know chris, ur real funny, your willing to risk your fd at mosport goin inches away form a wall at 120mph, killing a set of $1000 rubber, and $120 of gas. but your afraid to get her a lil wet from the rain?! i don't get it man. " i dunno guys i might have to take the M3 to the meet tonight b/c there are a chance of showers next week!" whahahahahaha
merry x-mas man,
lov luigi
p.s. i think i should track the car at least once befor i give it back this aug, so i atleast know what kind of a sports sedan i got.. i'm down for whatever
Tlovr,
LOL! Very true. You bring up a good point. Getting the car wet is never a good thing. Both for the car and myself. TYrying to preserve the condition of the car so the less rainfall it encounters, the better for the body. And the less it encounters rain, the easier it is to keep her spotless! Even though it's not a very big car, it's still very painful to clean. Especially if she's been through a rainfall!
Taking the car to the track gives the car the oppertunity to stretch her legs. You don't go to the track to crash! You push the car a bit so it can loosen up a bit, but you never go beyond your comfort zone! You have to keep in mind the same car that got you to the track will have to get you back home. So you won't be going balls to the wall fast every lap. You're there to enjoy the car... :)
I can't believe your car is going back next year! Has it been 2yrs already??? What's the ETA on that POS Chevy you got pre-ordered??
Did you see the new trailer for Transformers??
http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/transformers/
Lates,
92tsiawd 12-20-2006, 03:34 PM I wouldn't mind either 3 of them but I think beginning of the season, something more affordable like cayuga would get more of a turnout (it will introduce more people to lapping their 8s or any other car), just kind of like a gathering at first and then we'll go over to mosport later on. How many track days are you guys planning to host?
Alrib 12-20-2006, 04:30 PM Mosport first, Shannonville second, Cayuga third. No interest in Dunnville whatsoever. It would be great to see a bunch of RX-8s on the track at the same time. Most I've ever seen is myself and two others at a Solo I event last summer.
TLovr 12-20-2006, 05:41 PM Tlovr,
LOL! Very true. You bring up a good point. Getting the car wet is never a good thing. Both for the car and myself. TYrying to preserve the condition of the car so the less rainfall it encounters, the better for the body. And the less it encounters rain, the easier it is to keep her spotless! Even though it's not a very big car, it's still very painful to clean. Especially if she's been through a rainfall!
Taking the car to the track gives the car the oppertunity to stretch her legs. You don't go to the track to crash! You push the car a bit so it can loosen up a bit, but you never go beyond your comfort zone! You have to keep in mind the same car that got you to the track will have to get you back home. So you won't be going balls to the wall fast every lap. You're there to enjoy the car... :)
I can't believe your car is going back next year! Has it been 2yrs already??? What's the ETA on that POS Chevy you got pre-ordered??
Did you see the new trailer for Transformers??
http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/transformers/
Lates,
ya man saw the new trailer it looks awesome not just cause of the F-body(camaro) but the whole movie looks awesome.
and ya this Aug (Aug 2007) she has to go back. i will miss her and i hope the next car will put a smile on my face the way this one did. i was thinkin of getting a bike(cbr600 rr, r6, gsxr600, zx6 rr, anything 600) and something a lil cheap like a Maz 3 for rainy days and snow(i will prob buy at auction). regarding the track obviously u don't plane on hitting shit but (just like on ottawa trips) but shit happenes thats all i'm saying, but hey man i will track her once before she goes, and km wise i'm way under i need to come up with 22,000km in 8 months gotta get my $'s worth. after living with her for nearly 2 yrs, i still love her just as much, and to anywho says they suck, cause they are slow, use gas, not a real rx. its not worth tryin to explain to them what the car is about, lets just keep this awesome lil secret(rx-8) to ourselves :) and i promise when the 400hp camaro comes in in aug/sept of 2008 i will not race any rx8 and woop my 1st true love, i will show it more respect then that
since she will be goin back i will also have a few parts to sell so keep an eye out guys
-k&n typhoon intake V2
- CF rear lip spoiler
-clear corners
-17's with snows (maybe will fit maz 3)
- red licence plate bulb will trade for stock(white) for free!!!!!
later guys
Chris_Bangle 12-20-2006, 08:56 PM Mosport
-=drift=- 12-20-2006, 11:39 PM Dunnville. Mosport sounds cool until someone drive their car into a wall. Happens all the time. Dunnville is much safer and has excellent run offs if you get quirly. I love watching video on speed about mosport, but unless you drive there consistently, I think it would be better to go on more of a "beginners" track.
ROCKSTAR RX8 12-21-2006, 11:01 AM Mosport is a professional track everyone would have so much more fun if you have done any track days even at other tracks. Even if anyone hasn't done any track days there are also instructors on site to sit in with the individual for a few laps... Just take it easy and have fun that's what lapping days are all about.
Kart Racer 12-21-2006, 03:28 PM Im more concerned about price. Right now, my budget is tight for racing next year. And the rx-8 comes last when compared to running in a formula car.
RX8 JET 12-21-2006, 06:06 PM looks like mosport seems to be the choice. Its one hell of a fast track in the 8, as there is alot of entry speed into the corners, but it is awesome fun!!
More importantly, exit speed....171 at the end of turn 2!!!! :eek: :scared: :evil_laug
ROCKSTAR RX8 12-21-2006, 07:45 PM isn't that the ultimate rush RX8 JET?? lol
has anyone tested their top speed @ Mosport back-straight?
Craig9274 12-21-2006, 08:59 PM Im more concerned about price. Right now, my budget is tight for racing next year. And the rx-8 comes last when compared to running in a formula car.
What class of formula are you going to run? I drive/crew Formula 4 (wings/slick/750cc bike motor) at regionals.
As far as a track ... anyone is good.
Mosport is fun but Shannonville/Cayuga/Dunnville are more realistic.
Alrib 12-22-2006, 12:05 PM Rockstar,
I do 190 km/h at the end of the backstraight if I come out of corner 5 in 2nd gear, 180 if I come out of 5 in 3rd. Car is stock except for RA1s.
ROCKSTAR RX8 12-23-2006, 11:58 AM I haven't tested the 8 on Mosport yet.. just wondering how it'd do.. my STi used to do close to 220 after the hump right before corner 8 if I really really late-break.. lol i guess there is a huge difference~
folks are Kensai racing told me that the Gram-AM RX8s are extremely fast when it comes to the track.. especially mosport cuz this way we get to rev the rotories to a higher rpm where the power band is!!
9291150 12-24-2006, 01:19 AM Never did the Mosport long track on the 8, just on my bike. I never looked, but I'm sure that section is the fastest I've ever gone I'm sure.
We'll prolly get more guys out at a safer track, so anything but Mosport long track gets my vote.
Kart Racer 12-24-2006, 11:14 PM What class of formula are you going to run? I drive/crew Formula 4 (wings/slick/750cc bike motor) at regionals.
this year I ran some of the regional races with Formula Dodge, this coming season, hopefully I will be running all the races in the championship, and potentially some Ontario Formula Ford races..... but everything is still up in the air. (we'll see if santa brings a great budget tomorrow) LOL
Rotator 12-25-2006, 06:39 AM Mosport gets my vote.
Any way you look at it - even shannonville you can write off a car by doing something stupid - although it would have to be EXTREMELY stupid.
Sure you can run into a wall at Mosport. But you are lapping to your limits - it isn't a race. You still want to be able to drive home.
You can do the same thing on the street by hitting an unseen oilpatch mid corner as well.
I would have to guess that driving on a track surface will be a hell of a lot more consistant than what you expereince every day on your favorite twisty road. Everyone on the track will be travelling at close to the same speeds, and hopefully in the same direction.
Track Day - Best way to blow $500 ($200 track, $180 gas, $100 tires, $20 brakes - mileage may vary)
I calculated over 29L/100km at shannonville.
The 8 is a very forgiving car in stock form. Unless you have done something stupid with the suspension geometry or carrry 500lbs worth of car audio in your trunk you should be ok.
Spin9k 12-25-2006, 07:29 AM Any of you guys got vids to share of trackdays in your 8s of these locations to give us southerners a flavor of your choices? You just might entice some of us up there one trackday if we knew more of what we'd be getting into :)
-=drift=- 12-26-2006, 12:52 AM Track lines vary in grip greatly,but this isnt a racing thread. My big thing is having seen a skyline, almost 3 fc's, and a couple ofther nice cars smack the wall when you come over the hill there, right after the pits. everything else is cake, as far as dangerous goes.
Video of corner, and a spin, very close. Right click only plz, as posted by original user on the rx7 club, Balzz.
http://www.outbraking.com/files/MosportTurn2Spin.wmv
-=drift=- 12-26-2006, 01:05 AM Video of mosprt
http://www.outbraking.com/files/mosportshakyincar.avi
Shannonville
http://www.insightracing.ca/videos/TRAC-racing-school-external-video.wmv
Dunnville
http://insightracing.ca/videos/2005-08-27-dunnville.wmv
I agree mosport is awesome, but anyone who races there will tell you its a fast track, with a lot of dangers
Spin9k 12-26-2006, 08:15 AM Thanks drift, nice vids :ylsuper: Wow! An Insight tracking? Cool, thought it was awful quiet...not bad though. :lol2: That guy was way hot going in on that off-camber corner - one lucky fellow as the world spins around him :Eyecrazy: Shannonville traffic looked worse than commuting and peps inches from the track - scary looking! Mosport was very nice looking .. too bad that guy had such slow-in-corners traffic, but definitly a-place-on-the-list. Cheers.
-=drift=- 12-26-2006, 06:52 PM The rx-7 has minimal work done, with a bridge he easily would have smoked the other cars. The video's dont give an idea of the changes in height ( dont know how to say it) but it really is like a roller coaster. I rode in a pretty beat 2nd gen rx-7 and it was a really fast track. That same day I watched some of the Gt spec cars (or something like that) including a couple older porcshes, a ferrari, lots of M3's and a sick ass V12 jag, that looking like it was just doing pacelaps. Everyone in a while the guy would stomp on it for the crowd, car was crazy loud.
spd frk 12-27-2006, 04:53 PM I would be in for Cayuga Lapping. That course is real nice, and has lots of run-off area.
KhanMotorsport 12-27-2006, 10:37 PM The video's dont give an idea of the changes in height ( dont know how to say it) but it really is like a roller coaster.
it really is eh drift, definitly the best course in canada (maybe tied with tremblant)....that is, unless the city of vancouver will let me close off Grouse mountain and run a hillclimb :D
-=drift=- 12-27-2006, 11:31 PM Truely. I hear laguna is wayyyyy more crazy, but then again, the US has alot more tracks that are easier to get on, and everyone makes way more money. I went to rotorfest 3 years ago, and even hoda part guys were making 17 bucks an hour to start.
Davut 01-08-2007, 02:06 PM Hi all. I am new to the Club altho I got my RX-8 back in May 2006. Nice to meet you all.
My is the 2006 special edition (wine red with white leather/alcantara interior). I've installed the RB test pipe and K&N drop in filter.
I am interested in going to track days as well. I live in Richmond Hill (GTA), so Calabogie would be a bit far for me, but I would love to try Mosport (big track). I heard its scary tho. I usually go to Shannonville and Mosport DDT with my MazdaSpeed Protege, and has only been to Shannonville with the 8, so any track would be fine for me.
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