Had a close look at the New Audi TT , they had the car on display here on the Goldcoast before it heads to the Sydney motor show.

So far whitout driving it i was very impressed by the looks and the finish WOW if it drives as good as it looks it would be awesome apparently the 2 litre turbo version at $70,000 is a better drive than the 3.2 Quattoporte all wheel drive at $90.000.( check out article in latest MOTOR MAG

Something to consider as i am tired of the RX8 and have decided not to put another $ 15-20,000 to turbo /supercharge it .

Not interested in waiting any longer while Mazda tries to get its act together

So i am also on the lookout for a different ride .

On further research the TT - S is tipped to run a high pressure turbo four with 300bhp -plus , the TT - RS WITH A BLOWN V6 WITH 375BHP AND THERES ALSO A DIESEL TT :ylsuper:
Michael

so you posted the same post twice without attaching/linking the pix....? :boring:

Not bad...

Ezzy

Knock yourself out .

http://images.google.com.au/images?q=2007+Audi+TT+&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images

Michael

umm... not sure... at this stage i'd still like the version i had previously.
still not a big fan of the big grille at the fornt.

I like it.

Much better than the old model. It was a bit too rounded - looked a little like a mushroom.

umm... not sure... at this stage i'd still like the version i had previously.
still not a big fan of the big grille at the fornt.

In real life its fine the Quality of build is out of this world , compared to most cars , the front is similar to the upcoming Audi R8 .

Check it out at the Motor show .

Michael

looked a little like a mushroom.
i like mushroom and i also like porsche :cwm27:

mmm Candy shop..........

A few more pics

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/frame.php?file=car.php&carnum=2923

Michael

I reckon they've done a very decent job of updating an icon. But the best news is that after years of making beautifully tailored but mostly dull to drive, uninvolving cars Audi ( or rather, VW ) have finally come up with a decent chassis. Whether it's worth a $25k premium over the "donor" Golf GTI , depends on how much you value looks and finish over mechanical substance I guess :Eyecrazy:

The GF has an 03 TT 225 and I think it is a great looking car. We both don't like the grill on the new model but the rest of it looks good. I like the drive when the turbo kicks in but I like the quick rev of my 8. When I start hers and blip the throttle, it just feels wheezy but it is fun to drive.

If I had the money I would have my 8, a TT, a 350Z, and a Stang. Jus dreamin.

Another note, except for the cup holders, the TT has a much nicer interior than the 8, but you also pay for it. I had a Passat before, and really liked the fit and finish compared to the 8 and have to say the Audis and VWs do a good job on the inside. Don't ask me why I am doing it, but I vacumn the GF's TT interior once and awhile and the carpet is also of much better quality.

The GF likes the 8 better for looks.

The upcoming TT - S is tipped to run a high pressure turbo four with 300 bhp and around 350 NM

Thats the one worth waiting for .

Link to Audi TT-S

http://www.fast-autos.net/vehicles/Audi/2007/TT_S_Line/


Michael

I've got these on my radar as a possible replacement down the track too.

Michael, did you get a chance to sit in it? If so, did you try the rear seats? Does it appear bigger than the previous model?

I've got these on my radar as a possible replacement down the track too.

Michael, did you get a chance to sit in it? If so, did you try the rear seats? Does it appear bigger than the previous model?

Dave

I was all over it like a dog on heat , internally its taller wider bigger , much better finish then previous model , the access to the rear is great very easy to use my 9 year old sat in the back no problems , i think they have allowed for 180cm height at rear .

At 5"10'' i could seat in the rear for a short halve hour ride , if i had to as theres no center consul like the RX8 THE REAR FEELS MORE OPEN

The workmanship in the car is outstanding both internally and externally , i even got under the car and one can see the standard of finish there .

Germans , love them or hate them but they know how to Engineer a car WITH CLASS

Thanks Michael. I'll check it out when it gets to Sydney.

Looks like the resulting offspring of a Cayman that had sex with a Beetle.... :yelrotflm

Robby_jai

As well as Timbo in other posts have pointed this fact out about the 2 ltr Audi engine in the TT and VW :ylsuper:

Lock to add some amunition to your Audi TT dreams.......

heres some interesting fact for you.. the GOLF/AUDI 2.0T Litre engine (the 147kw Turbo) is VERY VERY VERY tuneable

there are two tuning companies in VIC (that sells tuning parts from Europe) that has an ECU tune only which will boost the power output to 180kw.

A further Exhaust mod and air intake mod will get u 190kw. Now heres the tasty numbers.... 400Nm torque.


Now all of these go fast bits come from reputable power house tuners in europe.

So definately food for thought. i too like the Audi TT.

this company just tuned a Golf GTi good for 190kw/400Nm just by merely reprogramming the ECU and doing exhaust and air intake mods.

the 2.0T engine has a lot of capacity for tuning i hear

Spoke to Alex from Harding performance pty ltd in Brisbane 188KW AND 411 NM Can be had by merely changing the codes in the existing ECU Cost $2,200.

What a change in price compared to getting extra power from the RX8

Michael

correct... thats the beauty of having a FI setup to start with..... and stage 2 & 3 upgrade will probably follow soon after too.
APR and GIAC will have ecu re-flash and/or chip available soon after the release. other VAG tuning companyies will have something too...

Hmmm...
Looks like a TT sub-group of the RX8 Club is worth forming! What would it be called - 82TT?

Hey Michael, I have provided a link to your nearest Audi dealer. Please save us from any more whinging about your defective underpowered RX-8 or threads about Porsche's, Alfa's, Ferrari's, Aston Martin's etc.

Put down a deposit.....please.

http://audicentregoldcoast.audi.com.au/dealer/DealerLocatorMap.aspx?s=859&d=18

Audi Centre Gold Coast.
Cnr Nind Street & Gold Coast Hwy
SOUTHPORT
QLD
4215
Sales (07) 5583 8840

Gomez

Glad to see you read all my posts with such enthusiasm :wavey:

Michael

Hmm, the only one I'd consider would be the quattro. However, when you think about it, AWD is what you do to a FWD car to get the car to handle properly. To me, that's over-engineering, and papering over the cracks. The RX-8 is better designed from the ground up.

A quibble I have with German cars is this tendency to over-engineer. It's not a new thing. There has been a good program on tanks on the History Channel. The German response to the Russian T-34 tank in WWII was illustrative. This was a simple, easy to build tank which gave German armour a pasting. The Germans got a look at the T-34, and had two choices - make a copy, or go the German way and make it perfect. They chose the latter of course. With twice the production capacity of the Russians, they made around a quarter of the number of the Russan tanks (and lost the tank war).

As far as dealerships go, the Brisbane Audi dealership has probably been responsible for selling more Lexus' than Audis to Audi repeat customers. Stories over overcharging and incapacity to fix faults are legion

You're always worth reading labby. :yesnod:

I tend to agree with you on the quattro. I'd only buy it because I don't like powerful FWD cars but I'd really prefer a lighter weight RWD car.

Hmm, $90K buys a lot of modded RX8... :mdrmed:

Didn't know that about the tank war. I thought the Russian winter had more to do with it?

At the risk of adding flames to the fire Michael, you might be interested in this review of new TT vs Cayman vs 335i coupe:

http://www.speedtv.com/articles/automotive/newmodels/33294/?page=1

Seems the TT has the looks, but not quite the finesse to trounce the opposition in absolute terms. Can't knock the value proposition though, especially in Oz where the price differences between these three cars are much greater than Europe or USA.

Hey Michael, I have provided a link to your nearest Audi dealer. Please save us from any more whinging about your defective underpowered RX-8 or threads about Porsche's, Alfa's, Ferrari's, Aston Martin's etc.

Put down a deposit.....please.

http://audicentregoldcoast.audi.com.au/dealer/DealerLocatorMap.aspx?s=859&d=18

Audi Centre Gold Coast.
Cnr Nind Street & Gold Coast Hwy
SOUTHPORT
QLD
4215
Sales (07) 5583 8840


:rollingla :rollingla :rollingla

At the risk of adding flames to the fire Michael, you might be interested in this review of new TT vs Cayman vs 335i coupe:

http://www.speedtv.com/articles/automotive/newmodels/33294/?page=1

Seems the TT has the looks, but not quite the finesse to trounce the opposition in absolute terms. Can't knock the value proposition though, especially in Oz where the price differences between these three cars are much greater than Europe or USA.

Nice find thanks

The price difference here in OZ is way different to the US

Porsche Cayman $118,000 +onroads the Cayman S ... IS $148,000 + onroads

BMW 335i TWINTURBO will be around $120,000 +on roads

Audi TT 3.2 Awd quattro $90,000 +on roads as Motor and car magazine UK have stated the 2.0 ltr FTSI is the more engaging drive out of the first TT offered in OZ .

Comparing these 3 cars is an interesting excersise .

Michael

As far as dealerships go, the Brisbane Audi dealership has probably been responsible for selling more Lexus' than Audis to Audi repeat customers. Stories over overcharging and incapacity to fix faults are legion

All car dealers overcharge whats new ?

Labrat actually i could see you in a Lexus is 250 with your cardigan and golf bags :evil_laug

Michael

Labrat actually i could see you in a Lexus is 250 with your cardigan and golf bags :evil_laug Michael

You dwell in fantasy land, Michael:

- Us scientists are way too cool to drive Lexus
- I couldn't wear a cardigan over my lab coat
- I don't play golf. My lab coat would interfere with my swing

:lach:

:pokeowned

Go labby, go labby, go labby... :101384_l:

:cwm27:

You dwell in fantasy land, Michael:

- Us scientists are way too cool to drive Lexus
- I couldn't wear a cardigan over my lab coat
- I don't play golf. My lab coat would interfere with my swing


Bill Gates drives a Lexus :cool: but he also has a Jet plane boats and donates part of his 85 Billion Dollars to Scientists :bootyshak :evil_laug

Michael

Nice find thanks

The price difference here in OZ is way different to the US

Porsche Cayman $118,000 +onroads the Cayman S ... IS $148,000 + onroads

BMW 335i TWINTURBO will be around $120,000 +on roads

Audi TT 3.2 Awd quattro $90,000 +on roads as Motor and car magazine UK have stated the 2.0 ltr FTSI is the more engaging drive out of the first TT offered in OZ .

Comparing these 3 cars is an interesting excersise .

Michael

Michael FYI 335i 6 sp manual is $108k + on roads, and comes fully loaded ( VERY unusual for a bimmer)- voice control sat nav, TV, 18"alloys, dual steerable HID headlamps, decent hifi, incredible range of seat adjustments including backrest width + cushion length, rain sensing wipers, front and rear radar bla bla bla. Lacks only sunroof.
I need 4 proper seats so for me the comparison was easy, but I think the car's other attributes would have swayed me anyway, given my particular driving interests.
Mine doesn't arrive till December but I've spent a few hours ALONE on demanding roads behind the wheel of a demonstrator 335i over last weekend. If you are interested in any observations vs RX8 you are welcome to PM me.

You make a persuasive argument Nick but I just can't warm to the styling of the new 3 series range. Obviously a subjective thing.

It also seems pretty good value (for a Bimmer) but at nearly twice the price it should brain the RX8 in every dept.

Please post some pics of your new beast when you take delivery. :)

You make a persuasive argument Nick but I just can't warm to the styling of the new 3 series range. Obviously a subjective thing.

It also seems pretty good value (for a Bimmer) but at nearly twice the price it should brain the RX8 in every dept.

Please post some pics of your new beast when you take delivery. :)

I'm with you on the sedan Revolver, but fortunately the coup looks quite different. It's not enthralling to look at like a TT, but understated and smart IMHO. The best of the Bangled bimmers, though that's not saying much I know!
Here are some decent pics in the colour I have on order

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18070&page=4

Cheers
Nick

Nick

Great to see a BMW in a different colour all i see on the coast is Silver and Black Beemers . :)

If i was a working proffesional it would be a very acceptable ride but its o so Angelic :angel: , i need a car that has more casual leisurely attitude as i am out of the daily rat race :ylsuper:

Michael

Nick

Great to see a BMW in a different colour all i see on the coast is Silver and Black Beemers . :)

If i was a working proffesional it would be a very acceptable ride but its o so Angelic :angel: , i need a car that has more casual leisurely attitude as i am out of the daily rat race :ylsuper:

Michael

LOL Michael! :mdrmed:

Thanks for the pics Nick.

I agree it's an improvement over the sedan but it still doesn't do it for me. Can't quite put my finger on what it is. It's not quite ugly, not quite boring. Just looks a little awkward to me.

I mean, I still look at my 8 now and think, "that's one damn fine looking car". Couldn't see myself ever doing that with the Bimmer, no matter how much I might enjoy its mechanical ability.

Guess it proves that emotion is a big driver with car purchasing. :)

I'll check 'em out in the metal at the Motorshow though. Might change my mind a little.

Thanks for the pics Nick.

I agree it's an improvement over the sedan but it still doesn't do it for me. Can't quite put my finger on what it is. It's not quite ugly, not quite boring. Just looks a little awkward to me.

I mean, I still look at my 8 now and think, "that's one damn fine looking car". Couldn't see myself ever doing that with the Bimmer, no matter how much I might enjoy its mechanical ability.

Guess it proves that emotion is a big driver with car purchasing. :)

I'll check 'em out in the metal at the Motorshow though. Might change my mind a little.

Agreed on the emotion bit! If you can't "connect" with a car on that level, you'll never be happy with it. For me though appearance is just another part of the package. When I bought the RX8 I did so foremost because I liked what it did and how it did it. The fact that it also looked kind of funky and original was just a nice bonus.

On your point that a car which costs nearly double should brain the RX8 in every department, I think you are lining yourself up for a disappointment. What the RX8 does well, it does very well indeed. IMHO the two standout attributes of the RX8 are its steering, and its agility. Very few cars will convincingly outdo it in these specific areas. You'll need to think in terms of a Porsche Boxter/Cayman or Lotus Elise/Exige to achieve this.

This was really brought home in my test drive of the 335i. On very, very tight, demanding narrow roads all its extra power, flexibility and finesse provide no advantage vs the RX8 at all. It's only when the roads open out a little, and hairpins change to sweepers that the 335i can stretch its legs and deliver what you paid for, balancing its chassis on a fine edge and catapulting you out of corners in a way I've certainly never experienced before.

In the end, every car is a set of compromises. The RX8 is remarkably uncompromised in a few key areas that are important to keen drivers. That's why it's so freakin' hard to replace. In my case I was prepared to compromise funky, unique looks, and some steering precision and agility for more power, refinement, way better finish, space and true comfort for 4. There are other ways to skin this particular cat for sure, but not many of them that I can see!

That all makes a lot of sense Nick. :)

It's always great to exchange these views. For me it helps to decide what I want and what is the best compromise.

As handling is where it's at for me atm, I'm happy to stick with the 8. I can live with the finish of the 8 and the space is adequate for my present needs. As the mini terrorists get older I may have a different view though.

As for power, I think a conservative FI mod on the 8 would give me all the power I can usefully use (at a much cheaper price than the Bimmer). As it is, the 8 is quick enough in atmo form to have a lot of fun (and get in a lot of trouble :Freak_ani :cwm27: ).

I'm actually starting to think that when my car runs out of warranty in a bit over a year's time I might just trade up (sideways? :mdrmed: ) to a new 8 and transfer my mods to that. By that time the FI scene might be a little more established (and hopefully a tad cheaper).

The only problem with that strategy is deciding on a colour. :dunno: ;)

^^ Yeah pity they stopped making yellow, huh?
(had to get it in first LOL)

^^ Yeah pity they stopped making yellow, huh?
(had to get it in first LOL)

Nothing like kicking off a colour war for excitement on a Friday morning... :mdrmed:

I'll leave you all to it - I'm sailing on the Harbour in a charity race today. :angel:

That all makes a lot of sense Nick. :)

It's always great to exchange these views. For me it helps to decide what I want and what is the best compromise.

As handling is where it's at for me atm, I'm happy to stick with the 8. I can live with the finish of the 8 and the space is adequate for my present needs. As the mini terrorists get older I may have a different view though.

As for power, I think a conservative FI mod on the 8 would give me all the power I can usefully use (at a much cheaper price than the Bimmer). As it is, the 8 is quick enough in atmo form to have a lot of fun (and get in a lot of trouble :Freak_ani :cwm27: ).

I'm actually starting to think that when my car runs out of warranty in a bit over a year's time I might just trade up (sideways? :mdrmed: ) to a new 8 and transfer my mods to that. By that time the FI scene might be a little more established (and hopefully a tad cheaper).

The only problem with that strategy is deciding on a colour. :dunno: ;)


FI makes sense to me, escpecially if you're still happy with the rest of the package and the zidz ain't too big yet. Colour is easy: just get a WHITE one, then you can spray it whatever you like when you get home. :Eyecrazy: :mdrmed:

FI makes sense to me, escpecially if you're still happy with the rest of the package and the zidz ain't too big yet. Colour is easy: just get a WHITE one, then you can spray it whatever you like when you get home. :Eyecrazy: :mdrmed:

I like the idea of a white one with FI and these rims (Volk TE37 magnesium). :rock: :mdrmed:

Maybe a 3 series convertible with metal folding roof is the way to go . :ylsuper:

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/first_official_picture.php?sid=245&page=1

Michael

I like the idea of a white one with FI and these rims (Volk TE37 magnesium). :rock: :mdrmed:
oh no... dejavu.... not again... :cwm27: :mdrmed: :hahano:

Maybe a 3 series convertible with metal folding roof is the way to go . :ylsuper:

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/first_official_picture.php?sid=245&page=1

Michael

Looks like a Renault Megane.. :nono:

Looks like a Renault Megane.. :nono:


Hmmmm how about this the Audi A5 coupe and later it will come as a convertable :rofl:

http://www.jalopnik.com/cars/audi/is-this-the-2008-audi-a5-154832.php


Michael

Maybe a 3 series convertible with metal folding roof is the way to go . :ylsuper:

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/first_official_picture.php?sid=245&page=1

Michael

:puke:

Even the colour is :boring:

So, umm, no. ;)

oh no... dejavu.... not again... :cwm27: :mdrmed: :hahano:

:naughty: heh heh heh, I thought that would draw a response from you Eric. ;)

Relax, I'm over the mag TE37's (almost :p: ).

Hmmmm how about this the Audi A5 coupe and later it will come as a convertable :rofl:

http://www.jalopnik.com/cars/audi/is-this-the-2008-audi-a5-154832.php


Michael

Better than the Beemer but still pretty conservative.

Doesn't do a whole lot for me.

How about this one Audi A7 Coupe and convertible the rear doors are rummored to be like the RX8 :)

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/secret_new_car.php?sid=221&page=1

Michael

How about this one Audi A7 Coupe and convertible the rear doors are rummored to be like the RX8 :)

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/secret_new_car.php?sid=221&page=1

Michael

Yuck! that thing's worse than the Beemer. :spank:

Can you say "slab-sided"? :bootyshak

How about this one Audi A7 Coupe and convertible the rear doors are rummored to be like the RX8 :)

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/secret_new_car.php?sid=221&page=1

Michael
woo... me likez :cwm27:

Yuck! that thing's worse than the Beemer. :spank:

Can you say "slab-sided"? :bootyshak

I heartily agree.

TT, A5, A7, R8... they're going crazy with all these new models. How many Audis can the world stand? It's becoming a kind of upmarket, automotive McDonalds. :Eyecrazy:

Seems like the auto industry is going out with a bang - more and more desperate to sell the 'dream' as reality bites....

I'm starting to think the 8 might be my last conventional car! Soon we won't have the water to wash 'em, let alone the petrol to run 'em... :sadwavey:

It seems the German marques seem to want to outdo each other in the extent of their model line-ups. I can only guess their respective marketing departments have access to the same, highly segmented market data.

...data that says we're all getting middle aged, conservative and have spreading rears (judging from their products)...

Audi is certainly determined to fill every market niche that BMW And Mercedes are in .

It certainly gives the consumer heaps of choice albeith a mass over supplied market choice .

Michael

...data that says we're all getting middle aged, conservative and have spreading rears (judging from their products)...

...but (and you do have to hand it to them)...despite these obvious physical handicaps...there's nothing wrong with at least 8 cylinders, twin turbos, 400Kw and 1,000Nm
:ylsuper:

Audi's are shit.

Today I took delivery of my RX-7.

Audi's are shit.

Today I took delivery of my RX-7.

Already have a series 3 RX-7 :ylsuper:

Show us some pics and give us some details :bootyshak

Michael

Audi's are shit.
really...?

Today I took delivery of my RX-7.
which series?

Audi's are shit.

Today I took delivery of my RX-7.

What's wrong with Audi's? I thought they were generally lifting their game actually.

Otherwise, pics of the 7 please. :)

Had a good look at the new TT at the Motorshow today.

Didn't take long to write it off as a potential replacement. Yes, it seems marginally bigger inside than the previous model and yes, my children will fit inside when I have the driver's seat set at the right spot but, unless they plan staying the same height forever, we'll grow out of this car in 5 minutes. As it is, it's a snug fit and they didn't look too comfortable back there. I didn't even attempt to get in the back. Access is also extemely poor. Definitely short trips only whereas the children are happy in the back of the 8 for hours. There's no way adults would fit back there.

Indeed, the more 2+2 coupes I checked out at the Motorshow, the more the RX8 stood out as the only viable option. As a packaging exercise, it remains top of the field.

Ezzy

Found a jaffa TT ........ :rofl: :rollingla

Oettinger a well respected German Tuning house already have 3 stages of tune for the 2 ltr Tfsi TT 230 HP 280 HP and 310 HP . :bowdown:

Spoke to James Frizelle Dealer principal of Audi Mazda VW Chrysler dealerships here on the coast , disscussed the ups and downs of owning a Mazda RX8 i am sure i enlightened him on some aspects of his dealership he didnt want to hear :rofl: .

He gave me his personal bussiness card , so if i need to negotiate further i can talk to the horses head and not its tail :rollingla

Michael

Ezzy

Found a jaffa TT ........ :rofl: :rollingla

:puke:

Soon half the forum will be majority of ex rx8 owners. I'm assuming you will stick around also Michael? (How offtopic can u get then, not even owning an rx8 on an rx8 forum..................)

i think it is called papaya orange....

i think it is called papaya orange....

mandarins?

Soon half the forum will be majority of ex rx8 owners. I'm assuming you will stick around also Michael? (How offtopic can u get then, not even owning an rx8 on an rx8 forum..................)

Even if i get another car the RX8 is being kept as joint useage for myself and my eldest son Benjamin .

Of course i will stick around someone has to keep an eye on your dark side :rollingla

Michael

i think it is called papaya orange....

I think it's called fugly sunset.

Just saw a silver one this afternoon, style wise it looks very nice.

Just saw a silver one this afternoon, style wise it looks very nice.

I agree the stock car looks great. Just don't like the detailing on that orange thing, especially the rear.