First time... quick summary. didnt mess with tire pressure.

1st run, skided sideways during launch... R/T .173.... 14.3 @ 91.93mph
2nd run.. R/T .190... 14.4 @ 99.26mph
3rd run.. R/T of .045... missed 3rd gear .. :( 14.5 @ 96.71mph
4th run.. a mess, left .435 secs early, missed a gear and coasted to a 15.8 @ 94.71mph

So for my first time on a track, I didnt launch TOO bad .. at least during run 3. I have my cat converter on still till my midpipe gets here next week... I need some good tuning.... I cant see why I wont reach 13's next week when i go back.

off to bed.

Oh and for the other car I was vs.

1 = Nova 13.8
2 = GTO 13.6
3 = civic 16.7
4 = civic 19.8

Wow 15.8 huh. That musta hurt. But think of it this way at least you'd still beat someone like me in my Grand Am lol

how high did you rev up to launch?? and what elevation are you at when you race?

up here in minnesota its colder than shit, and the tracks are terrible.. closest one for drags is at rock falls raceway and it sucks there....everyone's trap speeds are slower here.. :(

I was gonna say you should expect high/mid 14's but you got the turbo so Hmm dunno.. maybe tire pressure needs to be adjusted slightly or as Crazy said maybe it was just the cold weather keeping the track to cold keeping your traction very low.

Yeah, those times suck for a turbo'd 8.

No, I disagree... they don't suck.
That's a good job for a first time!!! It's great to see you going for it and posting a number. Many don't have the guts to do it.

On your second run, you trapped almost 100mph. Depending on what kind of 60ft you get, you're in the ballpark for getting into the 13's, but, man, it's cutting it close if you're running street tires. Hopefully your other mods will allow you trap about 101-102mph to give you a little more room. Just don't get frustrated if the 13's don't show up your next time out.

BTW forget about your R/T... sure it'll be important in the future if you stick with it, but race yourself and the clock while you're learning, and not the other guy or the tree just yet. R/T doesn't factor into your times.

Post your 60ft time to tell us how you're launching - it's critical, and largely determines your E/T. 60ft is also where you can make the most improvement by refining your technique.

I believe I called him on that before....... He doesn't have a turbo, it's just in his signature.

not bad for the first time, how much boost were you running.

Isn't anything faster than a .05 R/T a red light? I thought I might have read that somewhere.

Also, that 14.3 @ 91.93mph looks a bit strange - it was your best E/T but a very low mph. Did you let off early before crossing the 1320 line?

I did that my very first time racing in the GTO... I was kicking a white Z28's ass, let off too early, and then caught him again. He thought I was f'ing with him, but it was at night, and I couldn't see the end of that crappy track - same track Adrian ran his 13.1 1/4.

Acclaim99 are you boosted or naturally aspirated because if your NA please share with the community on how you achieved the rare like magazine numbers.

Nah, I think we can confirm he's turbocharged...
or else he's really good at photoshop.

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?p=1532710#post1532710

Isn't anything faster than a .05 R/T a red light? I thought I might have read that somewhere.


Depends on the track, at rock falls here they used to be a .5 was a perfect, but they changed it to a .00 system. so it all depends.

Seems like your car isn't running right. Even with the bad driving your traps should be higher.

I believe I called him on that before....... He doesn't have a turbo, it's just in his signature.

uh,

2nd run.. R/T .190... 14.4 @ 99.26mph

and first time on a track.... very not going to happen na!

beers :beer:

Yea I'm turbo... it was my first time... my launches were not great at all... like I said, the first run I was going sideways and had to shift into 2nd quickly.

Yes, the first run I did let off at the end, honestly... I didn't know how long I had to stop afterwards, so I just coasted the final few feet.

my 60 times
1: didn't record...
2: 2.313
3: 2.195
4: 2.7 (stopped after the red light)

it seems wierd that my 2nd pass was 9 mph faster, and .1 slower.
I have all my slips here if you guys dont believe anything ill scan it.

Not bad for the first time.

Can imagine how you felt when your launch went sideways.

Did you try keeping the traction control on any of your pulls?

Bet you are glad you beat the Civics :cool:

Yeah I kept the TC on, but DSC off after that.

The thing that sucks is at Atco your forced to drive through the wetbox... didnt really have a need to heat up stock tires... :-\

Yea I'm turbo... it was my first time... my launches were not great at all... like I said, the first run I was going sideways and had to shift into 2nd quickly.

Yes, the first run I did let off at the end, honestly... I didn't know how long I had to stop afterwards, so I just coasted the final few feet.

my 60 times
1: didn't record...
2: 2.313
3: 2.195
4: 2.7 (stopped after the red light)

it seems wierd that my 2nd pass was 9 mph faster, and .1 slower.
I have all my slips here if you guys dont believe anything ill scan it.

Oh there's no problem there - absolutely believe the times. Just as I was able to figure out that you lifted on the first run from the low trap/good E.T., there are other interesting things you pull out from your 60' times. For instance, you had a better launch on run 3 than you did on your clean run 2. Combine the launch from 3 with how your car ran and how you shifted on 2, and you're knocking on the 13's. I'd say you have to get closer to a 2.0-2.1 60' with the power you're currently making to get 13.99 or better.

So I'll stop there on the analysis, because from what you're telling us, you had only one clean run, that was run 2. To see how you're progressing, it would be much better to have at least 3 or 4 clean runs side-by-side to get more meaningful information.

For the next time, remember not to "hot-lap" and give your car enough time to cool so it's not pulling timing from high intake temps. Last, when you go through the water box, burn out just enough to get the layer of water, rocks and dirt off your tires. Heating a street tire isn't going to buy you much, other than destroying the insides of your back tires, because it's in a independant rear suspension (the ass end of the car drops, increasing the camber, so the contact patch is all riding on inner edge). They probably make you go through the box because the staging area has a bunch of crap you drive through. Best of luck of your next runs, and let us know how ya do.

WAIT - Your on STOCK tires? Thats why your times suck.

You need to get a REAL set of tires - Falken Azeni's, Toyo Proxies, etc...

WAIT - Your on STOCK tires? Thats why your times suck.

You need to get a REAL set of tires - Falken Azeni's, Toyo Proxies, etc...

Those really won't help much at the strip. In fact some more track oriented tires tires may raise his times depending on temps.

Those really won't help much at the strip. In fact some more track oriented tires tires may raise his times depending on temps.


Well fine, how about a set of semi-slicks, or something? ANYTHING is better than the stock tires, IMO..

More practice. don't waist money on tires.

He's not gonna drag everyweekend.

Well fine, how about a set of semi-slicks, or something? ANYTHING is better than the stock tires, IMO..

Compared to most other cars stock tires the RX-8s are pretty good.

Too much serious talk. It was your first time at the track with your 8. Did you have fun?? Hope I have time for some of that sh*t this summer.

Those numbers really dont make the 3 grand worth it but all that matter is u had fun....the 8s are hard to get low 60 foot times cause the fucking back end likes to hop...7s did the same thing

Those numbers really dont make the 3 grand worth it but all that matter is u had fun....the 8s are hard to get low 60 foot times cause the fucking back end likes to hop...7s did the same thing

Eh just throw a hundred pounds of sand in the trunk. That'll fix ya! :biggthump

J/P

this thread is sure getting quite a bit of interest considering all the 1/4 mile bashing that goes on regularly about how driving in a straight line is lame etc etc.

its pretty decent times for 1st time at the drag strip really... it takes tons of skills to get good times, especially on a car like the RX8 that requires difficult high rpm clutch drops. your should probably launch at a much lower RPM like 2200 or so to avoid the wheel spin. Dont worry, your times will get better. My friend ran a 19s 1/4 mile time on his heavily modded evo when he went to the track for the first time. Now on the same car and same mods he just ran a 11.6 last friday night. most of those people that says your time sucks probably cant even break 15s with their life depend on it.

its hist first time, its not that serious

Yeah, I'm not going to get different tires yet... maybe when I get some new rims... which is way down the road.

But, yeah it was fun when I actually got a chance to run (the start was delayed an hour because there was a wedding on the track...).

I'm going again Thursday, so I can experiment with different launches... but I'm going to try a lower RPM, hope I don't go sideways.

Good idea, tune the driver before you lay out cash on the car - then when you do pimp it up you will really know if it was money well spent - wish we could have been there to watch!

I have to hurry off to work...

Went again ran another 14.3... next turn I turned off TC and DSC (usually just had DSC off) felt I had a terrible launch, but ran a 14 @ 100mph...

I have to hurry off to work...

Went again ran another 14.3... next turn I turned off TC and DSC (usually just had DSC off) felt I had a terrible launch, but ran a 14 @ 100mph...

That's downright sad. I ran 13.2 @ 102 mph in my fwd open diff 2000 civic and it only dyno'd 176 whp 173 wtq.

A 250 whp RX8 should be able to cut 1.9 60 foots on street tires and run a mid 13 @ 104-105.

My 60 foots are killing me, like 2.3ish if I remember right :-\

I need to get my car tuned :-/

I think it's way less than 250... isn't it?

Mazda.com posts 232hp

Too much serious talk. It was your first time at the track with your 8. Did you have fun?? Hope I have time for some of that sh*t this summer.
its hist first time, its not that serious
I think it is important. This guy is one of only a few RX8 owners that runs at the track. He's one of even fewer owners that has a turbo that's been to the track. I went last night to San Antonio Raceway, and I was hundreth car to get tech'ed for the test and tune. Out of those 100+ cars, there was not one RX-8. The majority of the imports were impressively represented by Evo's and Subies in every level of tune. G35 coupes, RX7's, 350Z's (a lot of these bones stock), but there were zero RX8s. That's pretty sad.

I think there's interest in this thread because, secretly, RX8 owners do want to see more power and straightline performance, and they're rooting for this guy to post a good number.

RX8 owners, at least the ones I know, have a hang up about drag racing. I told one that I was headed to track, asked if he would want to go, and he just commented "the 8 is not a straightline car". I think that sums it up. You guys don't want to try, and not much is going to change that, but don't trivialize this guy's attempts. He can use as many tips, and as much discussion as possible.

Dont worry that you didnt do so great your first time. Ive only been twice, but my first time was horrible. Got a 16.1 my first run. Last time i went, my best time was 14.9. I have a cold air intake and exhaust. Everything else is stock. I know I can do better, but I dont know if its worth destroying my clutch with high rpm launches. Its just fun to do, even if the times I get arent so great.