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Turblown 06-27-2011 01:46 PM

Injector Dynamics Fuel Injectors
 
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We are now a WholeSale Dealer for Injector Dynamics. We stock the following fuel injector sizes;

ID725 - Nominal Flow Rate - 715cc/min

ID850 - Nominal Flow Rate - 885cc/min

ID1000 - Nominal Flow Rate - 1015cc/min

ID2000 - Nominal Flow Rate - 2225cc/min

The most popular would be the ID1000s for Turbo Rx-8s.

These injectors have been proven to be far superior to anything else on the market. Each set is dynamically matched, this means they all flow very similar to each other. Not all fuel injectors come this way, they may be labeled 1000cc, but they can vary quite a bit. Injector Dynamics injectors also come with Flow and offset values from 8 to 16 volts across the full pressure range in 5 psi increments. If you are using an aftermarket ecu, these values are need to be inputted for proper injector operation.

We offer free shipping to Rx8club members too!

http://turblown.net/store/index.php?categoryID=45

Turblown 07-05-2011 07:59 PM

I should have mentioned these will drop right into the OEM Rx-8 Fuel rail. The electrical connectors are not the same, and do need to be soldered in( they are supplied at no additional cost). For a small fee we can supply injector wiring harness adapters, that require no soldering.

09Factor 07-05-2011 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by Turblown (Post 4022835)
For a small fee we can supply injector wiring harness adapters, that require no soldering.

and for those of us that are interested, what is this small fee?

dannobre 07-05-2011 11:56 PM

Awesome injectors.....I have 4 of the 725's

Unless they have changed the injector bodies they don't fit in the P1 position though.......

MazdaManiac 07-06-2011 12:35 AM

Dan - are you controlling them with the OE PCM (and no intermediate electronics)?

dannobre 07-06-2011 01:02 AM

yes...they are high impedance injectors

Something I should know ;)

MazdaManiac 07-06-2011 01:24 AM


Originally Posted by dannobre (Post 4023032)
yes...they are high impedance injectors

Yes - that isn't where I am going with this.

I'm trying to find a commonality amongst the failures/difficulties I've seen with the 1000cc versions.

dannobre 07-06-2011 01:28 AM

What kind of failures?

I think the 725's start out as different base injectors thn the 1000 units

So far I haven't had any problems..but they aren't in the car right now either

MazdaManiac 07-06-2011 03:53 AM

I need more data before I go talking about it directly.
Maybe some other people with the 1000cc will chime in.

As an aside, I have several of the 1000cc sitting here for my application, but I haven't installed them.

Brettus 07-06-2011 04:04 AM

/\ um - iknow they flow bugger all when run off the Yellow latency table .... Probably not what you are looking for but that is all i got ...

MazdaManiac 07-06-2011 04:29 AM

I constructed all new latency tables for all the different flavors of the IDs.

Without going to far at this point, I'll say they work fine - when they work fine.

Brettus 07-06-2011 04:56 AM


Originally Posted by MazdaManiac (Post 4023106)
I constructed all new latency tables for all the different flavors of the IDs.
.

Which does not help a lot when paired with yellows on the same table ....

Flashwing 07-06-2011 05:07 AM


Originally Posted by MazdaManiac (Post 4023106)
I constructed all new latency tables for all the different flavors of the IDs.

Without going to far at this point, I'll say they work fine - when they work fine.

60% of the time they work every time.

Turblown 07-06-2011 11:13 AM

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Jeff,

Why don't you contact one of the guys at T1, and lets figure out whats going on.

Plug and play adapter is $30 per pair of ID725/1000s...

dannobre 07-06-2011 12:44 PM

Why wouldn't he ;) He's a curious guy..I'm sure he would want to figure it out

Turblown 07-06-2011 02:05 PM

I spoke with T1 about this, and they said there are zero issues with the injectors themselves. Every unit is tested before shipping, and there are too many customers, and people at their shop running the injectors with zero issues.

MazdaManiac 07-06-2011 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by Turblown (Post 4023610)
I spoke with T1 about this, and they said there are zero issues with the injectors themselves.

I've had quite a few conversations with manufacturers about product failures over the last few months that, apparently and miraculously, had experienced only 100% success with their products.

So, yeah, that isn't a useful answer, I'm afraid.

dannobre 07-07-2011 01:19 AM

I've found both Tony and Paul extra ordinary in helping resolve issues.

If you want to get to the bottom of the issues that would be the way to go

T1Race 07-07-2011 09:12 AM

Hi all.

This is Tony from T1 Race Development and Injector Dynamics.

We pride ourselves in providing the best products on the market and having the most technical information out there. We also back that with excellent technical support.

I'd love to hear deatails of the problems you are having and help you come to a conclusion on it. We don't dance around and deny problems, if there is truly a problem it will be handled.

That being said, there are over 25,000 ID1000's out there in use right now and if there were an issue it would be very widely known and we'd be well aware of it.

A fuel injector is a very small piece to a big puzzle. They often get the blame when they're not at fault.

If you're serious and want to get it figured out, please contact me at tony at t1racedevelopment dot com.

Please don't spread misinformation if you don't have facts.

MazdaManiac 07-07-2011 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by T1Race (Post 4024452)
This is Tony from T1 Race Development and Injector Dynamics.

Thanks for chiming in.


Originally Posted by T1Race (Post 4024452)
Please don't spread misinformation if you don't have facts.

Thanks for being insulting.
And thanks for jumping onto the forum just to tell me what to do.
I'll be sure to "spread" only what I feel is relevant and suits my needs and goals.

T1Race 07-07-2011 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by MazdaManiac (Post 4024769)
Thanks for chiming in.



Thanks for being insulting.
And thanks for jumping onto the forum just to tell me what to do.
I'll be sure to "spread" only what I feel is relevant and suits my needs and goals.

I was asked to help answer questions in this post. You clearly have a problem that you'd like to hint at being an injector problem but don't want to share the details. That's fine.

If this is me 'telling you what to do', so be it. I'll continue to support my product and offer any insight I can as to why someone may be having a problem they feel is related to my product.

Almost seems clear what your 'your needs and goals' are.

If you want to have a technical discussion and get to the bottom of your problem then i'm all ears, but if you're not willing to do that then I guess you can't be helped.

MazdaManiac 07-07-2011 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by T1Race (Post 4024782)
I was asked to help answer questions in this post.

So, answer them.


Originally Posted by T1Race (Post 4024782)
You clearly have a problem that you'd like to hint at being an injector problem but don't want to share the details. That's fine.

I don't have a problem. I don't have ID injectors installed in my application. They are sitting on my bench.
I voiced concerns completely in private with another vendor. I must admit that I am somewhat surprised to find you're attempting to address them here, this way, in public.


Originally Posted by T1Race (Post 4024782)
Almost seems clear what your 'your needs and goals' are.

And that would be what? What, exactly, are you worried I might say?

Your whole approach is a bit worrisome, don't you think.

T1Race 07-07-2011 03:41 PM

So lets talk about your concerns, what problems have you had with ID1000's?

Nothing to hide and nothing that i'm worried about you saying. Lets not play games, what problems have you had with ID1000's? Lets get to the bottom of it.

If there is a problem with them I want to know about it and I want you to be taken care of.

MazdaManiac 07-07-2011 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by T1Race (Post 4024853)
So lets talk about your concerns, what problems have you had with ID1000's?

As I pointed out earlier, I am just gathering data. Once I have verified that there is a concern, I will contact you as was initially suggested.

T1Race 07-07-2011 04:23 PM

If you're still gathering data then I can understand and appreciate your attempt to find the root of a problem.

At the same time, you're insinuating that there is a common problem with comments like

"I'll say they work fine - when they work fine. "

"Maybe some other people with the 1000cc will chime in."

"I'm trying to find a commonality amongst the failures/difficulties I've seen with the 1000cc versions. "

Enough so that I was contacted by people who wanted to know what problems there were with the ID1000 based on your comments.

I just want it to be clear to all that if someone has a problem they believe is injector related with our injectors, I want to know about it. The combined amount of fuel injection knowledge and experience within Injector Dynamics is unreal and I can assure you you'll never get an "I don't know" answer from us regarding technical details.

Our contact information is on the website and we're here M-F 8-5, please feel free to contact us by phone or email with any tech questions.


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