Blacknightz

Ok, this is what i have deduced so far.... Im a little bit confused with the numbers....

- N3H1 = Original (04' & '05 models)
- N3H1 A = Upgraded
- N3Z1 = Updated (standard with '06 and newer models)


- N3Z1-18-400 -------> a better and expensive option (compared to the others)... for s2 units (FL rx-8) 07' and up (may be fitted to older models)
- N3H1-18-400R-0A -------> this is the updated starter that Mazda now replaces, it was originally installed on the 2009-10 rx8's. And this same starter was approved for all models 2004-10
- N3H2-18-400R-0B -------> latest revised version for manual trans S1 models is and is remanufactured
- N3H1-18-400A -------> (the original stock 04-05 models?) available and new




does anyone know where to get the 09 version starter?
N3R3-18-400 (09' and above)



BHR
http://blackhaloracing.com/products-...starter-motor/
they are selling which of the above starters? ---------------------> ?? ______ $375.00

Finish Line Performance
http://www.finishlineperformance.com...cat=338&page=3
they are selling which of the above starters? ---------------------> N3H1-18-400R-0A ______ $349.95 ________(this means updated or remanufactured starter but not the 09 version?)

Mazdatrix
http://www.mazdatrix.com/getprice.as...8-400R-N3H1-0A
they are selling which of the above starters? ---------------------> 18-400R-N3H1-0A ______ $357.23

Mazmart
http://www.mazmart.com/ItemDetail.aspx?id=513
they are selling which of the above starters? ---------------------> N3Z1-18-400__________ $395.00

Domenico

iTrader: (6)

go to auto zone its 150 without core, 100 with core. Its a rebuilt 1 but a lot cheaper than buying a brand new 1.

nycgps

iTrader: (1)

Just Dunno which "version" of starter they're using.

I might get one just to "try it" tho.

Domenico

iTrader: (6)

Its for a manual, cant remember much about it. It works great for me.

tigersilhouette

If you can, definitely go for the updated Series II starter. I just got one fitted as part of a TSB and it cranks really quickly, and I had the 2006 starter on it before. Definitely worth it! A quick google search yielded dealerdirectparts.com as having the starter in stock for $331.16 and free shipping.

invasion08

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I just bought a used upgraded starter on ebay for like 85 dollars.

Blacknightz

thanks for the wonderful tip !!!

anyone knows which version is BHR selling?

Blacknightz

quick search...

they only deal with updated starters...

http://www.dealerdirectparts.com/200...-rx-8-gt-4.htm

http://www.dealerdirectparts.com/200...-rx-8-gt-4.htm


no,N3Z1 units.....

invasion08

iTrader: (7)

Best bet is to look on ebay.

tigersilhouette

I searched and found this:
http://www.dealerdirectparts.com/201...-rx-8-gt-4.htm

The part number listed is N3R3-18-400, which is the updated (2009-2010) starter you're looking for right? I got the N3R2-18-400, installed through the TSB i mentioned before, which is for the automatic transmission. If you have a manual, you want the N3R3-18-400. The link above has it listed for 337.40 and free shipping.

-Lawrence

Blacknightz

i see... thanks Lawrence... these parts number are confusing.. Hopefully this N3R3 is the N3Z1 everyones talking about...

nycgps

iTrader: (1)

Mazda always sells the "newest/updated" starter.

So it doesn't really matter which version you buy, as long as you order thru Mazda dealer you always get the newest one.

TQCuong3th

iTrader: (1)

i think mine is dead too min rx8 is a 05 and i still have warranty on it, do i still get free from the dealer or i still have to buy a new one???

EDZRIDE

iTrader: (1)

The B to B warranty is probably expired so a new starter would be on you; check with your dealer though.

Blacknightz

wasnt sure and always doubt that Mazda dealer always gives the new ones though...

Novoken

iTrader: (7)

So I was looking at autozone and so on and they are $100-150 why not go with one of them? I know they are reman. but wouldnt they be better than the ones we got.... mine is already giving me the long crank until turning on.

Novoken

iTrader: (7)

Looks like its they are fine

https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...2&postcount=12

nycgps

iTrader: (1)

because once a new part comes out, you simply cannot order the old one.

That's how it works.

New Yorker

I have an '05 (with all major TSB upgrades) that starts great every time. Still, would it be smart to upgrade to this new starter? I plan on keeping the car a long time.

Blacknightz

I suggest that u need not replace it till u find it necessary to do so...



PS: need to know if u keep on running bad starters, it will cause bad ignition everytime u start the car and in the long run cause u to have a bad running engine?

oltmann

I am in the same situation, 05 that starts fine with original starter. Actually I just installed an Optima Red Top, and it starts really well.

If the car doesn't start well, and the battery is fine, it probably means compression has dropped a bit. Repeated long starts will then quickly kill the starter, and start/warmup fuel enrichment may cause flooding or wear.

I feel fine keeping my starter with the caveat that I need to keep a close eye on its performance.

Fanni Molnár

Hello All,

I'd like to ask for your help. I'm looking for a new HP starter for Mazda RX8 (2003, manual). I can find only really expensive solutions in the USA so I'd prefer to purchase it in EU. I'd prefer other solution as well: to renovate existing one. Thanks a lot in advance! Panka

foxyRoXy8

I bought a refurbished upgrade starter through ebay for $90 (excl shipping) and it works like a charm. Looks and works like new

Happy shopping!

DarkMyth

Hey everyone I'm having the starting problem. It really sucks. I bought my RX 8 from someone about 4 months ago and they put in a new starter. I was wondering where I can find a 350rpm starter or 300rpm starter. Also what rpm does the new and improved starter from mazda crank at?

Thanks in advance

alnielsen

iTrader: (4)

The original starter was discontinued in 2005. Any rebuilt or re-manufactured starter you buy today should be the updated starter.
If the engine has been replaced in the car under warranty, the dealer would have first have replaced the starter, to the newer revision, to see if that corrected any starting problems.