The Honda Ridgeline....

 

its a honda avalanche/sport trac.

 

Ewwwwww

 

another escalade wannabe..*Sigh*

 

But hey anything is better than the Element..

 

I wonder what engine will be offered with it.

 

Yeah, no sh*t. That piece of crap Element looks like it's still in the development stage. I keep wondering why anyone would buy an ugly thing like that, and yet I see them everywhere on the road. I'll never get it...

Also, agreed with Mr. Ed. That new truck is a Titan wannabe in the front and a faux Avalanche from the side/back.

 

its got a trunk under the bed for carrying groceries or other stuff you want to keep dry. water tight. and it has drain plugs - in case you want to fill it with ice and your favorite beverage for tailgating. after the ice melts you just pop the plugs and out it goes.

 

That's a good idea.

 

It's built from the Honda Pilot which I think was based on the accord platform. The engine is sideways and is primarily FWD. If the wheels start to slip 50% can be sent to the rear.

 

noe that i look at it more...it looks like an avalanche and an element got it on and thats the result...

i want them to put a 1.6L SOHC in that beast!!!

 

damn that's ugly, but it'll sell. Honda brand loyalty is a little insane.

 

I don't think the typical pick-up truck driver will buy this vehicle. Honda doesn't offer a V-8 and it's unibody construction. Basically, it's a car posing as a truck, and it won't do the things trucks are supposed to do very well. Towing capacity, max load, and off-road capability won't come close to competing with small and mid-size body-on-frame trucks with V-8 engines. I can only see this "truck" appealing to a small market segment--people who want a car with a truck bed.

 

Garbage--but then again--I only like to see Avalanches/EXTs on 22"s with bang and screens--and I still wouldn't buy any of em.

 

It is going to have a 3.6 L V6 I believe. They showed it in car & driver I believe. I think it is good that honda is doing pick up trucks. We have always debated on buying a pick up but I never want to buy a chevy, ford, or dodge. We currently have a honda suv and they make great cars.

 

I don't think it's bad lookin...it's different for sure, but not ugly. The element on the other hand...

 

What is the reason you are considering buying a pickup? Do you just want a truck bed to carry light loads? If so, the Honda will be fine. But if you want to carry heavier loads, perform any substantial towing, or go off-roading, you'd be much better served with a "real" pickup truck. You seem awfully anti-American when it comes to vehicles, so you might want to consider a Nissan or Toyota for this purpose--at least their trucks aren't dressed-up cars. If there's one segment that the Big 3 does right, it's trucks, so I think you should reconsider your stance. There's a reason why they dominate the pick-up market.

 

Like most Hondas, the looks will grow on the masses. If you bought a Titan, you're nuts. They are having so many quality issues with those damn Nissan trucks. If you buy an American truck, then you're either rich or your own worst enemy. I would never buy a truck but if I did, I'd only buy a Honda truck.

 

Ugly!!!

 

Nearly a million F-series trucks were sold in 2004. I believe the Silverado and Ram series were the 2nd and 3rd best-selling vehicles. Obviously, the masses like what the Big 3 have to offer in terms of trucks. If they were as bad as some of you believe, people would stop buying them. You don't sell a million vehicles if you're putting out garbage--why is that so hard to understand? "I'd only buy a Honda truck"... LOL, what truck? Only a Honda fanboy could consider this piece of garbage a truck.

 

I'm not exactly a ricer. Never modded anything I've owned. You don't sell a million vehicles if you're putting out garbage? You want to make a bet? That's the history of the American Big 3, and many people in this country and on this forum would agree. Four factors might be education level, emotional bias, nationalism, and just plain mechanical/technical apathy.

But I knew I'd hit a nerve when I made my comment. And I stand by that comment, which is as simple as a solid comment can be.

Backing up the quality of the Big 3 trucks is equivalent to Lee Iaocca saying in a Chrysler commercial that K-cars were better than Honda Accords, which is a very poorly thought-out comment indicative of a Big 3 insider or teenage zealot...or in your words, fanboy.

 

Pot, meet kettle.

The common perception (at least on forums dedicated to imports) that American vehicles are not as reliable as Japanese ones is not supported by the facts. The Big 3 currently have better reliability ratings than several Japanese brands, including Mazda (Hummer is the only American nameplate with worse initial quality than Mazda, actually), and three of the top six nameplates are American made (two GMs and a Ford). Their trucks, despite your ill-informed opinion, are quite sturdy and reliable, often even better than their Japanese competition, which is one of the reasons why they sell so many of them. Unfortunately, American branded cars and trucks are often seen as inferior for no good reason. Perhaps this is because of education level, emotional bias, nationalism, or just plain mechanical/technical apathy. Perhaps its from advertising campaigns run by Japanese companies pushing their products as reliable (inferring that others are not) and from memories of some truly horrid cars made decades ago by the Big 3. Perhaps it's from exposure to Japanese or European automotive fanboys, who are blinded to the positive qualities of any car that doesn't have the right badges on the front and back. Whatever the reason, it certainly isn't grounded in knowledge of the current status of the automotive industry.

 

Should have known you would go to JD Powers. No additional comment necessary there. The perception that the Big 3 are horrid is based on historical and present fact. They are inferior in virtually every single aspect of a car or truck aside from torque from a giant diesel engine and payload capacity. Come on, be real.

 

Have you ever owned a truck? if so which?

 

Never have. Never owned a Suzuki or Kia either. Never owned a K car. Never owned a Mercedes or BMW but still know their quality is going downhill.