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Old May 31, 2019 | 12:21 PM
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Offset Knuckle Bushing for Series 1

Finally got these installed last night - they netted .6 on each side for me. My car is pretty tweaked, so that got me the -4. on the side I was already maxed out on. I suspect it will be the same with the Motorsports version, as there just isn't as much material here to move around. On the NC version it seems as if the diameter of the balljoint taper is a good deal smaller, so moving it around nets more camber. This isn't the case with the S1.




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Old May 31, 2019 | 12:57 PM
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Congrats! Think maybe they could have squeezed the offset a bit further out, but for production cost purposes it’s understandable. $75 is a good deal. Glad they’re more easily available for the S1 now.

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Old May 31, 2019 | 12:59 PM
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Congrats! Think maybe they could have squeezed the offset a bit further out, but for production cost purposes it’s understandable. Glad they’re more easily available for the S1 now.
I should have gotten a pic of the other side, but I can see why he opted not to go any further. I'm pretty sure other people might get more camber with these, at least those who's cars haven't been in a major front ender like mine lol
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Old May 31, 2019 | 01:06 PM
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As long as the stud isn’t extending *beyond* the edge of the bushing insert OD it’d work, but that takes very precise positioning and time going slowly to prevent the thinness of the metal from ripping; so more time and potential parts trashing as compared to just punching them out on a cnc.
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Old May 31, 2019 | 01:34 PM
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MM gave me an update that they are roughly a week out until they have them in California, then my set will be out to me. I don't know if that's just an advance set for me since I ordered already or if they'll have a stock to ship to others.
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Old Jun 3, 2019 | 10:01 AM
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Nice who made this offset bushing ? i am in market for add more negative camber. already max out ,took it to track last weekeend and i think i can use some more at front
i now have 3 option
super now pillowball offset bushing on lower control arm
mazdaspeed delrin offset bushing
and now this knuckle offset bushing
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Old Jun 3, 2019 | 02:36 PM
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Who makes those? They look a lot like the offset bushings Mazda recently announced for the NC.

I'd recommend replacing the hubs, too. Those look like they've seen some use. When the speed sensor fails, things get dangerous in a hurry.
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Old Jun 3, 2019 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Pockets
Who makes those? They look a lot like the offset bushings Mazda recently announced for the NC.

I'd recommend replacing the hubs, too. Those look like they've seen some use. When the speed sensor fails, things get dangerous in a hurry.
Just wanted to note that the NC offset bushes have been around for a little while, they just recently did that article to highlight them, but they were get-able before. The S1 RX8 needs a 27mm bush vs. 30mm for the S2 RX8 and NC Miata.
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Old Jun 3, 2019 | 05:14 PM
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it’s been discussed in detail on this forum ... get you some Google bro, lol
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Old Jun 4, 2019 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Pockets
Who makes those? They look a lot like the offset bushings Mazda recently announced for the NC.

I'd recommend replacing the hubs, too. Those look like they've seen some use. When the speed sensor fails, things get dangerous in a hurry.
Mazda comp will be shipping S1 versions soon, as well as my friend who helped me with this. He's going to adjust a few things and run a batch of them.

https://diftech.com/
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Old Jun 4, 2019 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Pockets
Who makes those? They look a lot like the offset bushings Mazda recently announced for the NC.

I'd recommend replacing the hubs, too. Those look like they've seen some use. When the speed sensor fails, things get dangerous in a hurry.
Oh, and the hubs...these are basically welded to the knuckle. The perks of owning a east coast car. I had a new set of hubs and was fully intent on changing them, but there wasn't a lot we could do to coax it off. Press, hammer, etc etc. I'm just ordering another knuckle and a pair of dust shields.
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Old Jun 4, 2019 | 04:33 PM
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Wow, hard to believe a press can’t push them out.
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Old Jun 4, 2019 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
Wow, hard to believe a press can’t push them out.
When I started working on this car to move from CS to STX, I had to cut or grind off most of the bolts. I'm lucky the chassis doesn't have major rust issues.
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Old Jun 13, 2019 | 12:05 PM
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i need a set of these ASAP
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Old Jun 13, 2019 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by trackjunkie
i need a set of these ASAP
I wouldn't hold your breath waiting on Mazda Motorsports. My update yesterday was still "2 weeks out".
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Originally Posted by mrazny
I wouldn't hold your breath waiting on Mazda Motorsports. My update yesterday was still "2 weeks out".
I was just told today they can get a batch made in 2 weeks. They might be waiting for enough orders for a batch though...
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Old Jun 13, 2019 | 04:26 PM
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Copying from the alignment sticky for easy reference in this thread:

Originally Posted by blu3dragon
For anyone who wants the offset bushings now:

https://www.mazdamotorsports.com/201...fset-bushings/

Part No.: 0000-04-5407-NC – 2006-2015 MX-5 & 2009-2011 RX-8
Part No.: 0000-04-5407-R1 – 2004-2008 RX-8
Prices: $75.00

I was told that the set for the series 1 may be on backorder as they only did a small production run not knowing how much demand there would be. But anyone wanting a set should put an order in and they can have more made within a couple weeks (I would still suggest calling if you have a deadline for these).
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Old Jun 14, 2019 | 08:40 AM
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I have a pair of new NC MX5 uprights if anyone wants to downgrade, lol
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Old Jun 14, 2019 | 02:55 PM
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I have an order in for the series 1 bushings from Mazda Motorsports. Called yesterday and was told "a couple of weeks" for lead time.
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Old Sep 12, 2019 | 12:12 AM
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Any one know are this back in stock ?
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Old Sep 12, 2019 | 12:59 AM
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Yes, but you won’t be able to order them direct from Motorsports because they won’t ship outside the USA. Sometimes other companies offer them though

Part # : 0000-04-5407-R1
@ BUSH SET, OFFSET RX8
Notes:FRT LWR SPINDLE 04-08 RX8
$75.00


For the 2004-2008 S1 make sure you get the ones with the -R1 on the end of the part
number .

For the 2009-2011 S2 that changes to -NC, same part for S2 and NC MX5

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Old Sep 12, 2019 | 07:30 AM
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i ordered mine from motorsports in June. finally just got tracking number that they shipped this week and should arrive today.
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Old Sep 12, 2019 | 11:44 AM
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He’s in Taiwan and yes, when I checked last night they’re showing stock ...
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Old Sep 12, 2019 | 11:46 AM
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Be sure to check your alignment often, while I have no experience with them on this platform, I've seen offset bushing shells rotate in other vehicles, leading to unpredictable handling variances.
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Old Sep 12, 2019 | 11:55 AM
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There’s always that chance, but they were a tight fit and the washer tightens against the upright surface coupled with the torque setting decreases that possibility. That said, the original NC bushing set came with a small tube of retaining/bonding compound to help resist this. I noticed that these new bushing sets didn’t have that included. So it might be worthwhile to do this on your own.
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