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A Mazda reman that failed with 1000-1500 miles on it.

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Old Jun 19, 2015 | 09:31 AM
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TX A Mazda reman that failed with 1000-1500 miles on it.

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Old Jun 19, 2015 | 09:32 AM
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Old Jun 19, 2015 | 10:18 AM
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Yikes! what was it in?
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Old Jun 19, 2015 | 10:44 AM
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What car was the engine in? This is a Renesis engine.
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Old Jun 19, 2015 | 10:57 AM
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Yeah I meant like 2004-2008 or 2009-2011. Was it turboed?
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Old Jun 19, 2015 | 10:59 AM
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Yeah I meant like 2004-2008 or 2009-2011. Was it turboed?
Oh, just a series I, naturally aspirated.
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Old Jun 19, 2015 | 12:37 PM
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I'm curious as to what the insides look like...

Was someone drunk when they inspected the eshaft?

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Old Jun 19, 2015 | 06:10 PM
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Hey 9K,

Are you sure that is a RENNY?

That oem orange Rear Main Seal looks 1668-10-556A which is not a Renny, last used back in 1995.

All OEM 8's RMS are black, changed for Synthetic Oil Use amongst other things.

Unless Mazda Reman in US are using technically wrong parts, or skimping on reman costs by using or recycling 'passable' old parts from other warranty remans, who would have thought!.

Just say.n
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Old Jun 19, 2015 | 06:14 PM
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All OEM 8's RMS are black, changed for Synthetic Oil Use amongst other things.
Synthetic oil in a rotary!? You must be mistaken
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Old Jun 19, 2015 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ASH8
Hey 9K,

Are you sure that is a RENNY?

That oem orange Rear Main Seal looks 1668-10-556A which is not a Renny, last used back in 1995.

All OEM 8's RMS are black, changed for Synthetic Oil Use amongst other things.

Unless Mazda Reman in US are using non-genuine parts, who would have thought.

Just say.n

Both of mine have orange rear main seals....

Both of which im 100% sure are Renny's.


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Old Jun 19, 2015 | 08:40 PM
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OK, well they (in US) must be using the 1668-10-556A in remans, as Mazda Dealers there sell both which can fit and are actually a excellent seal and costs more there than EPC listed Seal for RX-8,
from Mazda EPC they are used right from 1969 10A to 1995 RX-7 13B REW, I literally sold hundreds of them.
The RX-8 ones N3H1-10-508 I have here are slightly thinner and all black and specific by part number for the Renny and is genuine oem and not meant for any other RE and they look cheaper and lighter (and are).

All RX-8 (OEM Part Black N3H1-10-508 )
Mazda Parts - Discount factory (OEM) Mazda parts and accessories at Park Mazda OEM Parts

1969 10A to 1995 RX-7 13B REW (OEM Part Orange 1668-10-556A)
Mazda Parts - Discount factory (OEM) Mazda parts and accessories at Park Mazda OEM Parts
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Old Jun 19, 2015 | 09:13 PM
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I must be colour blind..

I assumed this is actually 'a' Mazda reman unit from their NA reman plant in this pic?

Mazda NA Remans 'were' replacing front and rear stationary gears with brand new ones, if this engine is only 1500 miles old then clearly they are no longer renewing SG which are an assembly with new bearings and new Renny black rear main included as one assembled piece (from MMC Japan Parts), rear SG assembles (4 pieces, inc bolt) are Renny specific.
The SG in this 1500 mile engine is not brand new.
More than likely what they are doing to save money is reused the old SG and press in new bearings (if needed) and renew the rear main seal (orange, technically incorrect but will work), which is what they should have been doing from the start, but Mazda did not trust staff to even press in new bearings, they were even putting in brand new Rotors in every engine if needed or not.(see Sleepy old posts as worker at reman plant)
With S1 8 year engine warranty finishing in less than 2 years, all they (Mazda NA) need to do is make the engine last for more than a few years now, by cutting costs and saving $$'s.




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Old Jun 19, 2015 | 09:43 PM
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Good to know, but irrelevant to the issue
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Old Jun 19, 2015 | 10:09 PM
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One could even say an oxymoron?

Orange is the new Black
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Old Jun 20, 2015 | 01:14 AM
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You can tell from the oil filter pedestal anyways...
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Old Jun 20, 2015 | 01:23 AM
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I'll post a pic of mine tomorrow.

Nite nite

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Old Jun 27, 2015 | 10:44 AM
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Looks like an accidental downshift snapped the shaft.
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Old Jun 27, 2015 | 11:47 PM
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You know - after 6th gear i shift into Rocket mode
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Old Jun 28, 2015 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by stinksause
You know - after 6th gear i shift into Rocket mode
I thought it was Race.
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Old Jun 28, 2015 | 10:01 PM
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This supposedly happened at low RPM as well, 3500RPM or so IIRC.
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Old Jun 29, 2015 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
This supposedly happened at low RPM as well, 3500RPM or so IIRC.
3500rpm at 70mph shifting into 2nd without rev matching can do this on a tight bearing.
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Old Jun 29, 2015 | 08:05 PM
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wow wtf, the e-shaft snapped !

probably nothing to do with bearing, something in The engine fail while it was spinning, the piece is large enough and cause the engine to just "stop spinning" in a spit second ?

Damn, scary ****
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Old Jun 29, 2015 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ASH8
I must be colour blind..

I assumed this is actually 'a' Mazda reman unit from their NA reman plant in this pic?

Mazda NA Remans 'were' replacing front and rear stationary gears with brand new ones, if this engine is only 1500 miles old then clearly they are no longer renewing SG which are an assembly with new bearings and new Renny black rear main included as one assembled piece (from MMC Japan Parts), rear SG assembles (4 pieces, inc bolt) are Renny specific.
The SG in this 1500 mile engine is not brand new.
More than likely what they are doing to save money is reused the old SG and press in new bearings (if needed) and renew the rear main seal (orange, technically incorrect but will work), which is what they should have been doing from the start, but Mazda did not trust staff to even press in new bearings, they were even putting in brand new Rotors in every engine if needed or not.(see Sleepy old posts as worker at reman plant)
With S1 8 year engine warranty finishing in less than 2 years, all they (Mazda NA) need to do is make the engine last for more than a few years now, by cutting costs and saving $$'s.




I seen both seals, first I wondered why they changed it cuz it looks exactly the same (except color, no im not color blind )

now I wonder if I can use it in earlier 13b, forgot to take measurements last time I had both on hand
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Originally Posted by jasonrxeight
3500rpm at 70mph shifting into 2nd without rev matching can do this on a tight bearing.

Actually, the driver farted ...


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Lol
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