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Old Sep 23, 2013 | 11:23 AM
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WPC Treatment to rotor housings

Thoughts on using the WPC treatment to rotor housings/irons/etc etc?

Prolong life of the seals? Faster revving?



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Old Sep 23, 2013 | 11:25 AM
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It was done on a buddies build, unfortunately Brian Cain (BDC motorsports) jacked up the engine build so it made zero compression and failed. So we don't know what the WPC would of or could have done that was beneficial. My buddy did do it on his turbo though and it seemed to help. I will likely do it on my next turbo rebuild.
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Old Sep 23, 2013 | 05:15 PM
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I might give this a shot on my next build.

But I wonder if cyro treatment will create the same kind of results
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Old Sep 23, 2013 | 05:26 PM
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Who knows, the concept seems legit though, the work Hoss had done looked good, too bad the stuff that was treated is now useless.
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Old Sep 23, 2013 | 10:08 PM
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I think new stock plate (still has nitrite on) has 70 rC ?

I wonder what's the rockwell gonna be like after treatment.

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Old Sep 23, 2013 | 11:30 PM
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That's a good question, i wonder if i could get one of these irons tested. Hmmmm, I wonder who has a rockwell tester locally.
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Old Sep 23, 2013 | 11:53 PM
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Without a before/after test you're just guessing out of your butt
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Old Sep 23, 2013 | 11:55 PM
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Maybe test one that has not been treated too? Think they would all be the same roughly untreated?
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Old Sep 24, 2013 | 12:18 AM
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If you look up the words "assumption" and "validated" in the dictionary they won't have the same meaning ...
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Old Sep 24, 2013 | 12:43 AM
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Okay, okay, I understand what you are saying
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Old Sep 24, 2013 | 05:48 PM
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Well, i will get my plate re nitrite soon, but i have no equipment to test rockwell
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Old Sep 24, 2013 | 06:40 PM
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I've seen this discussed on RX7club a few times. Nothing conclusive, just a lot of speculation and heresay. The few mentions of it in use conclude with it not lasting long enough to justify the price--while being vague in the exact length/type of operation.

The full "review" is here (seems more of a puff-piece than an actual review):

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Old Sep 24, 2013 | 07:13 PM
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At high velocities, the additives are probably inter-granularly incorporated into the surface of the metal at a molecular level, making their effects permanent and long lasting. We asked the folks at WPC to confirm this but they sort of just smiled and said nothing.
I don't find this to be very likely given the process they described. "Granules" are multi-micron diameter particles; several orders of magnitude larger than the molecular level.

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We can say that WPC, however secretive they were about the exact process was generous in showing us reams of empirical test data to back up their claims; much of it was from some of their OEM and high end racing customers that we had to swear not to reveal. Coming from an OEM and Motorsports engineering background, we can assure you that these tests are very thorough and repeatable.
It's good to see that the "data" they were "analyzing" couldn't possibly be bias.


I agree, it's more fluff than fact.

(The poor word choice is another give away; pointing out that it is not a coating, but then saying: "...leaving [behind] a hard micro dimpled surface.")
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