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Old Mar 20, 2011 | 02:41 PM
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DIY Sohn tank under Air Box

This is a hands on DIY. You will need to do some thinking as well.


Sohn adapter remote oil tank.


Reference sites for the Sohn adapter
http://www.rotaryinsider.com/diy-tac...pter-gap28.htm
http://www.rotaryaviation.com/oil_in...p_adaptors.htm


What I am describing here is my second iteration of this tank with some lessons learned from the first one.




Objectives
Stock appearance under the hood
Full 32 oz capacity
maintain windshield washer tank
Easy to fill
visual tank level


Problem
Where do you find a spot under the hood to put a 32 oz tank without taking anything out and must be located above the oil pump?


Solution
Under the stock air box. There is a decent size space under there. Sorry for the crummy picture.


DIY Sohn tank under Air Box-sohn-oil-tank.jpg


Materials used
3 1\2” OD drain pipe
matching end caps
hose clamps
2 for mounting
2 for securing the end caps
2 Break bleed fitting
1 barb fitting 5/16”
garden hose fittings, hoses and matching cap (Home Depot)
assorted tubing for oil pick up (silicone) vents, level gauge and fill tube




Looking at the location and reviewing my size target I needed to use a 3.5” x 10 3/4” plastic drain pipe. This size is a maximum size for this location and I will explain why later.


So here what I did


Start by cutting the pipe to a length of 10 3/4” this is necessary to put the tank between the hinge points for the top of the air box, any larger and the top will not be able to be removed.


DIY Sohn tank under Air Box-tank-cut.jpg


Fit tube into place, mark the location of both ends on the air box these are your limits.


DIY Sohn tank under Air Box-tank-fitment.jpg


Determine your positions for the hose clamp mounting straps


DIY Sohn tank under Air Box-clamp-layout.jpg From First tank version


Cut the hose clamps into two halves, depending on the actual width of your straps you may have to grind this a bit narrower to fit in between the ribs.


DIY Sohn tank under Air Box-hose-clamps.jpg Click image for larger version

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Drill and bolt in place , you will likely have remove the dividers from inside the air box while you do this ( put them back in after) cut out sections of the ribs in the air-box as required to bolt the straps in place.


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Old Mar 20, 2011 | 02:46 PM
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Test fit in location and mark out locations for fill and vent holes. You need the vent hole of the fill tube will back up and overflow ( lessons learned)


DIY Sohn tank under Air Box-tank-drill.jpg


I drilled locations slightly undersized. I didn't have any of the tap sizes I would have needed to do this properly so I used a method of strip threading the fittings into the pipe.


Assemble these components together, I used some sealant just to be sure of a good seal.


DIY Sohn tank under Air Box-tank-fill-tube.jpg


Once again fit this all back together ALWAYS MAKE SURE THINGS FIT
mark out positions for oil pick up and another as low as you can for oil level gauge.


Attachment 169736DIY Sohn tank under Air Box-tank-test-fit-2.jpg

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Test fit in location and mark out locations for fill and vent holes. You need the vent hole of the fill tube will back up and overflow ( lessons learned)


DIY Sohn tank under Air Box-tank-drill.jpg

I drilled locations slightly undersized. I didn't have any of the tap sizes I would have needed to do this properly so I used a method of strip threading the fittings into the pipe.


Assemble these components together, I used some sealant just to be sure of a good seal.


DIY Sohn tank under Air Box-tank-fill-tube.jpg


Once again fit this all back together ALWAYS MAKE SURE THINGS FIT
mark out positions for oil pick up and another as low as you can for oil level gauge.


DIY Sohn tank under Air Box-tank-test-fit-1.jpgDIY Sohn tank under Air Box-tank-test-fit-2.jpg

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Old Mar 20, 2011 | 02:54 PM
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Drill these two hole location on an angle as shown or you will run into problems with the lines coming out of here interfering with the under-tray for the air box (trust me on this one)


DIY Sohn tank under Air Box-tank-drill-2.jpgDIY Sohn tank under Air Box-tank-drill-3.jpg

I modified my fitting by drilling outr the inside diameter to get better flow. (Disreguard the sort one both can be the same as the long one or one of your own design?


DIY Sohn tank under Air Box-fittings-1.jpgDIY Sohn tank under Air Box-fittings-2.jpg


Thread your fittings in.


DIY Sohn tank under Air Box-assembled.jpg


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Old Mar 20, 2011 | 02:58 PM
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Now here's a vitally important stage.
The pick up on this is what is called a clunk tank. Flexible tubing with a weighted end. This will allow the pick up to move with the oil or sit at the lowest point in the tank. The tube must be flexible and able to move around for this to work, or you will not get complete tank pickup


DIY Sohn tank under Air Box-clunk-tank.jpgDIY Sohn tank under Air Box-assembled-details.jpg



Mine is done rather Ghetto but you get the idea. This worked on my initial system for about a year.
Drained the tank down to the last ounce.


DIY Sohn tank under Air Box-residule.jpg


Clamp and seal on the end caps.


You should have something like this now.


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One step away from installing this in your car.


As the target was to leave everything stock.
There is a vacuum tube that runs under the air box it takes a bend up and will want to occupy the same space as the tank so we need to do something about that. Remove the metal tube and carefully straighten it, put it back in.


DIY Sohn tank under Air Box-vacuum-tube.jpg

Test fit


Install it for the last time


With this setup the tank is securely mounted to the air-box and goes in and comes out with the air box. Yes the air-box can still come out like it used to and you don't need to cut the air box tray. The only modification to the air-box is to drill the 4 mounting holes for the straps.


DIY Sohn tank under Air Box-assmbley.jpg


Hook up the feed line from the Sohn per the images above, add the clear tube to the bottom tap and run it up higher then the tank in a visible area ( this is your level gauge)


assebly.jpg above


The first one took me the better part of a day to make and install this one was a bit less then 4 hours.
First unit had the fill tube up the other side of the MAF sensor but there is a bit too much going on and I was not able to position the level gauge as low as I wanted and the tube was getting pinched off due to interference with the air-box tray.


Good luck


If you do this post your improvements.
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Old Mar 20, 2011 | 02:58 PM
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Old Mar 20, 2011 | 07:32 PM
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Looks great. Nice stealth install. However, you can't tell when your running low on 2 stroke being you can't see the tank.
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Old Mar 20, 2011 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by terch1
Looks great. Nice stealth install. However, you can't tell when your running low on 2 stroke being you can't see the tank.
Take a close look at the last picture in post #5. There is a clear tube running up from the bottom along side the tank that shows the tank level an arrow points to the actual oil level, it's labeled "Fill level" Its easier to see then the picture indicates. I have plans to add a level sensor that will indicate on the dash board but that one will have to wait for a bit yet.
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Old Mar 30, 2011 | 06:14 PM
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This is cool and it indeed has the advantage of keeping the stock look.

But isn't it much easier to just use something like a regular 1 qt bottle (made of clear plastic) and mount it next to the windshield washer reservoir, right there where some people keep a bottle of oil in the engine bay?
Really easy to access for fillup and to keep an eye on the oil level.
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Old Mar 30, 2011 | 10:09 PM
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interesting, good work!
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Old Mar 30, 2011 | 10:21 PM
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Dude, this is totally awesome. I have tried several SOHN reservoirs and every time I change something in the engine bay (strut bar design for example) I have to change reservoirs. Not to mention the white plastic reservoirs do not look good IMO.

This is really just great, I wish I had seen it a while ago

Now my Nitrous management unit is mounted there and I am going turbo so I will have to ditch the stock intake.
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Old Mar 31, 2011 | 07:10 PM
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Thanks for the comments guys.
I was rather happy with both function and the end results. There may be more to this if I can find some items for a tank level sensor.

Tamas
I looked at that location but its a lot tighter then it looks and I didn't care for the look or that I would have such a thin wall container. I was looking for a more finished look.

The cars becoming more of the hobby car I had intended now the warranty is done.

Working on some front end links right now. I'll post that when there done.
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Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
Dude, this is totally awesome. I have tried several SOHN reservoirs and every time I change something in the engine bay (strut bar design for example) I have to change reservoirs. Not to mention the white plastic reservoirs do not look good IMO.

This is really just great, I wish I had seen it a while ago

Now my Nitrous management unit is mounted there and I am going turbo so I will have to ditch the stock intake.
not to thread jack but I am looking for a nitrous setup
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Old Apr 1, 2011 | 06:30 AM
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That's an awesome install. Great job dude !
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Old Nov 15, 2013 | 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by terch1
Looks great. Nice stealth install. However, you can't tell when your running low on 2 stroke being you can't see the tank.
It's possible to swap around, use this smaller tank for washer fluid, and have oil in the original washer fluid tank to keep feedback from level switch.

Just a thought.
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Old Nov 15, 2013 | 09:30 AM
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SUB for future
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Old Nov 15, 2013 | 09:40 PM
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Similar thinking
I developed this a bit further a while ago.
I added an oil float switch to the tank and tied it into the washer fluid circuit. Now the wash fluid light comes on for either the washer fluid level or the oil level. You can usually tell which it is as if your getting low, if go around a corner and the light will come on until you straighten back out than you know it time to top up the oil.

Originally Posted by AAaF
It's possible to swap around, use this smaller tank for washer fluid, and have oil in the original washer fluid tank to keep feedback from level switch.

Just a thought.
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