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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 10:54 PM
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Mods and warranty

Hey everyone, I drive an 09 VR R3 an recently have had the nodding bug come over me. Can anyone shed some light on some simple mods that don't void your warranty? I mean if you do mod, what are possible repercussions? I appreciate anyone shedding some light on this for me.

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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 11:11 PM
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http://www.lemon-law-explained.com/m...ranty-act.html
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It basically means that if any mod you do to your car cannot void the warranty on anything other than that specific part, unless that they (the dealership/warranty provider) can prove that the mod actually caused any kind of failure of other parts, i.e. they would have to prove a CAI caused the engine to fail, and they couldn't void an engine warranty due to suspension mods, to void the warranty on said failed parts.

I am sure RIWWP will chime in and better explain it when he sees this thread.
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 11:15 PM
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Awesome, thanks for the fast response. Another question, and I know it may sound childish, but how can I make the car sound just a little bit more badass without spending tons of money and without voiding the warranty. A full exhaust is not an option. Are there any drop in mods that would do the trick?
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 11:34 PM
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K and N drop in air filter, Racing beat Ram air intake, and a catless mid-pipe, you could always swap back for stock if you were worried about the warrenty, as it is an easy bolt on. Spending money on an exhuast and CAI will gain not gain much HP.
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt_Nasty
K and N drop in air filter, Racing beat Ram air intake, and a catless mid-pipe, you could always swap back for stock if you were worried about the warrenty, as it is an easy bolt on. Spending money on an exhuast and CAI will gain not gain much HP.
But it WILL sound "badass" LOL
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 08:24 PM
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What other mods are out there for S2's? I've been searching around the forums for a topic butcant find any. An exhaust is no longer out of the question, so possibly an exhaust, intake combo?

I'm REALLY new to the modding business and I'm trying to find more information.

Thanks for the replies so far, how difficult would you guys say that the mods listed above are?
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 08:31 PM
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Hey guys. Do they have an Accessport now for that series???? That would be a great start. As far as more aggressive sound, I have a BB exhaust and it does the trick. I have the REVi intake w/ ramair and love it. Not incredible HP gains out of this car though unless you want FI.
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 08:42 PM
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Hey guys. Do they have an Accessport now for that series???? That would be a great start. As far as more aggressive sound, I have a BB exhaust and it does the trick. I have the REVi intake w/ ramair and love it. Not incredible HP gains out of this car though unless you want FI.
Do you mean RB? And yeah I've looked into the REVi intake and ram air. Did you install it yourself? Was it difficult? If not, how much was it to get it all installed?
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 08:49 PM
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Super easy, if you have some mechanical ablity, and still fairly easy if you don't. It's all bolt on stuff, in order to install the duct you must remove the bumper, which is really easy as well, there is a DIY for it.
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 08:59 PM
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Dirt can you please point me in the direction of that post? I searched for REVi install, even just intake install and I couldnt find it. I'd really appreciate it.
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 09:12 PM
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its on the website and if not, they send you instructions. Its very easy, just dont ruin your mesh screens that come out of the stock intake. You will need at least one of them in the new setup
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 09:15 PM
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I don't know if there is one for the install but I was refering to the bumber removal, there is also a good one on how to remove the stock airbox. I don't have the intake just the duct, but it is an airbox similar to stock, so I would assume the instuctions would follow as such: Remove maf from housing and disconnect, set aside in a safe place. Remove stock box, replace with the Revi, reinstall MAF.

Regardless, everything I have ever gotten from RB, has come with good instructions.
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 09:24 PM
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I appreciate all the responses and I'm happy to say that I think my first mods will be the REVi and the ram air duct I'm actually really excited because, like I said, I'm really new to this stuff. My step dad has installed a brute force CAI on our old Excursion, so hopefully we'll be alright installing it ourselves.

Hopefully I can save up enough money afterwards to put in the RB exhaust as well, I've fallen in love with that combo.
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 09:47 PM
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Just something to keep in mind about the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, its just words on a piece of paper. If the dealership declines to do warranty work you can't call the police. You will have to pay an attorney to file a civil lawsuit against the dealership / Mazda. You will then have to hope the jury has 12 car enthusiasts on it.
Based on the number of S2 sold the number of mods available for it are low so I don't see you doing much to it. Keep in mind that many sites list parts for the S2 that in fact do not fit. If you find something you like ask someone here first before you purchase anything.
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 09:48 PM
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You will ike the REVi intake, it has a huge K&N filter.
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by expo1
Just something to keep in mind about the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, its just words on a piece of paper. If the dealership declines to do warranty work you can't call the police. You will have to pay an attorney to file a civil lawsuit against the dealership / Mazda. You will then have to hope the jury has 12 car enthusiasts on it.
While this is true normally a call to National will straighten alot of things out.

OP, If you are really worried about the warrenty issues, buy the mazdaspeed CAI.
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 09:54 PM
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I have all the basic under the hood mods on my car including the REVi and have never had any mention from the dealership about it being a problem.
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 09:59 PM
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They wouldn't mention anything untill you blow an engine, then they MIGHT try to screw you over.
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 09:59 PM
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Do they have an Accessport now for that series???? That would be a great start.
no. and what makes you think that? an AccessPort is only usefull with proper tuning. this person couldnt even find basic intake/exhaust information on his own, what makes you believe he would find proper tuning or even be able follow Jeff's directions for his service? it'd end up being a very expensive obd2 reader
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt_Nasty
http://www.lemon-law-explained.com/m...ranty-act.html
Read this.
It basically means that if any mod you do to your car cannot void the warranty on anything other than that specific part, unless that they (the dealership/warranty provider) can prove that the mod actually caused any kind of failure of other parts, i.e. they would have to prove a CAI caused the engine to fail, and they couldn't void an engine warranty due to suspension mods, to void the warranty on said failed parts.

I am sure RIWWP will chime in and better explain it when he sees this thread.
Better rethink that, money sez you better prove it didn't cause it when they say it does.

OH JEEZ who has more money?
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 10:03 PM
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if your a do it yousrelfer than than mods will not be a problem. If you ever need to take it to the dealership for anything major than just put it back to stock before visiting them.
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 10:07 PM
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Better rethink that, money sez you better prove it didn't cause it when they say it does.

OH JEEZ who has more money?
Burdern of proof is on the Dealership, anyway. They would have a hard time proving that a product that had that much R&D and that many buyers could have CAUSED the engine failure.
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 10:09 PM
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burdern of proof is on the dealership, anyway. They would have a hard time proving that a product that had that much r&d and that many buyers could have caused the engine failure.
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 10:17 PM
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jesus christ, how many times has this been hashed out already.

legally the burden of proof is on the dealership.

in reality, they can deny you all day till you take it to court. if they are willing to go that far, in reality, you will likely have to show that mods werent the cause of failure.

/end of another repeat thread/argument. if you have any more doubts/questions, go read one of the many other threads on this here, or hundreds of discussions that 2 seconds on google will show you
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 10:19 PM
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OK not to be mean,
Is it Mazda approved?
Is it on the Mazda list as an acceptable replacement?
Can you prove it was installed correctly? "reciepts"
HMMMM not OEM? Not MazdaSpeed? which they have prolly?
on and on and on. best of luck
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