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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 03:33 AM
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Mazda Hydrogen RX-8 Vehicle Takes to the Road in Norway

Mazda Hydrogen Rotary Vehicle Takes to the Road in Norway

HIROSHIMA, Japan—Mazda Motor Corporation today introduced the Mazda RX-8 Hydrogen RE (Rotary Engine) vehicle to Norway’s public roads in collaboration with the Norwegian national hydrogen project, HyNor. Initially, the RX-8 Hydrogen RE’s driving performance on Norwegian roads will be validated with a single vehicle, which will also be shown at various events. This marks the first time that a Mazda hydrogen rotary vehicle has been put into regular use on public roads outside Japan.
Mazda signed a memorandum of understanding with HyNor (Hydrogen Road of Norway) to participate in the project in November 2007. HyNor is a national project in the Kingdom of Norway that aims to establish a clean energy transport system based on hydrogen fuel. Beginning in fiscal year 2009, Mazda will provide approximately 30 RX-8 Hydrogen RE vehicles for the HyNor project under commercial lease contracts.

The RX-8 Hydrogen RE validation vehicle is being delivered in advance so that Mazda and HyNor can jointly assess its driving performance in Norway. It will also be exhibited at environmental and other events for potential customers who are interested in leasing a hydrogen vehicle.

“Up to now, real world use of Mazda’s hydrogen rotary vehicles has been limited to Japan. Participation in the HyNor project marks our advancement to the next stage,” says Akihiro Kashiwagi, Mazda’s program manager in charge of hydrogen RE development. “After we validate the first vehicle on Norwegian roads, we intend to deliver 30 more units under commercial lease contracts. We are pleased to be a part of the establishment of a society based on hydrogen energy in Norway. Mazda plans to use the wealth of data and experience that will result from this project for the further development of hydrogen vehicles.”

HyNor is a unique Norwegian initiative to demonstrate the implementation of a hydrogen energy infrastructure along a 580 kilometer route from Oslo to Stavanger in Norway. Hydrogen filling stations are being established along this transport corridor to enable refueling of hydrogen vehicles. The project aims to revolutionize transportation in Norway by encompassing buses, taxis and private cars, and varying types of transport systems, including urban, inter-city, regional and even long-distance transport. In August 2006, Mazda attended the ceremony to commemorate the opening of Norway’s first hydrogen filling station constructed by HyNor. This was also where the first on-road demonstration of a RX-8 Hydrogen RE vehicle outside of Japan took place. Since April 2006, Mazda has delivered eight RX-8 Hydrogen RE vehicles to government bodies and enterprises in Japan under commercial lease contracts.

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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 03:40 AM
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I wonder what the price tag will be and the effect on performance. Also, if they are using automatic or manual for them.
Old Oct 15, 2008 | 06:56 AM
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If i've understood correctly a private customer can lease one.....

8 leased in Japan and a 30 in Norway (delivery April 2009).....there it's also 7 Mazda Premacy Hydrogen Hybrid testing on open roads in Japan.

45 cars leased.
Old Oct 15, 2008 | 07:14 AM
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Why is the body style the former and is the Norwegian gent about to sneeze on the Japanese gent?

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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 08:54 AM
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I wonder if is still produces 232hp...
109 PS on H2, 210PS on petrol according to Mazda.
Old Oct 15, 2008 | 08:58 AM
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I wish they made a CNG or LPG system.
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Originally Posted by Mazmart
Why is the body style the former and is the Norwegian gent about to sneeze on the Japanese gent?

Paul
why are they acting like they havent already run Hydrogen RE in Norway when it debuted on the road there 2 years ago
click me and fueled up at their first filling station?

why is the tranny being questioned when it is riding on the 16 inch rims?

why did it take until October to deliver the car since they were to start delivery of the 30 ordered in "summer 2008" click me 2

why can't i find that dang video on youtube of the cars filling up in stavanger 2 years ago? clickme 3 and be disappointed edit- this wasn't working earlier hence the "disappointed"
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hmm it appears youtube is broken....
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From the look of the wheels, its an AT
Old Oct 15, 2008 | 10:17 AM
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ahh thats better click me again

never one to pass up the opportunity to take a shot at the hack known as ann jobs. here she is proving she barely knows the subject she gets paid to report about

click me too
Old Oct 15, 2008 | 10:19 AM
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why is no one asking which engine is in there? i know i am....
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btw have you seen Mazda's new global site

http://www.mazda.com/
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Originally Posted by zoom44
why are they acting like they havent already run Hydrogen RE in Norway when it debuted on the road there 2 years ago
click me and fueled up at their first filling station?

why is the tranny being questioned when it is riding on the 16 inch rims?

why did it take until October to deliver the car since they were to start delivery of the 30 ordered in "summer 2008" click me 2

why can't i find that dang video on youtube of the cars filling up in stavanger 2 years ago? clickme 3 and be disappointed
I saw the 16 inchers, but was wondering if they would make them in both.
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Got no Idea why Mazda re-announces in a "hand shaking" ceremony the Hydrogen RX-8, the OP press release is dated October 15, 2008.

It does say "This marks the first time that a Mazda hydrogen rotary vehicle has been put into regular use on public roads outside Japan."

I guess it depends on what you thing "regular" means.

"In August 2006, Mazda attended the ceremony to commemorate the opening of Norway’s first hydrogen filling station constructed by HyNor. This was also where the first on-road demonstration of a RX-8 Hydrogen RE vehicle outside of Japan took place. Since April 2006, Mazda has delivered eight RX-8 Hydrogen RE vehicles to government bodies and enterprises in Japan under commercial lease contracts."

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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 03:59 PM
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So what happens if it got into an accident?

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exactly right there big giant mushroom clouds with every accident....



any way

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why is no one asking which engine is in there? i know i am....
Well see Charlie the answer there is- Renesis . According to MNAO's Mr Jeremy Barnes

"All 30 of the cars will have the same RENESIS engine, not the 16X.The 16X is still a number of years away from release, although development
is coming along very nicely."

so these 30 for Hynor will be the dual fuel version of our own dear Renesis which are powering the current cars.
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already new it was a 13B
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I wish they made a CNG or LPG system.
Exactly.
Now that would be much more interesting IMO...
Old Oct 16, 2008 | 12:03 AM
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Like this? LPG, turbo first gen RX-7
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Yep, something like that. Thanks for the article, I wasn't aware that such a thing was done already with a rotary.
Turbo is great, but even if it'd be a naturally aspirated RX-8 running on LPG, it'd be much more desirable for me than the one running on hydrogen.
I wonder how complicated (and expensive) would be to do such a conversion on an RX-8. There are a lot of cars in Europe that can run on either LPG or gasoline at the flick of a switch.
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Originally Posted by Tamas
Yep, something like that. Thanks for the article, I wasn't aware that such a thing was done already with a rotary.
Turbo is great, but even if it'd be a naturally aspirated RX-8 running on LPG, it'd be much more desirable for me than the one running on hydrogen.
I wonder how complicated (and expensive) would be to do such a conversion on an RX-8. There are a lot of cars in Europe that can run on either LPG or gasoline at the flick of a switch.
Well... the question is what comes in the conversion. If the same ECU can have the additional fuel MAPS for the burn rate of Hydrogen, getting the fuel delivery is the install milestone.

Mazda did a Proof of Concept of the Hydrogen-Hybrid back in 2000/01 while the rx8 was still being shown as a concept. This would mean the ignition system is the same...

Guessing from the bodystyle, the motor is probably the same pre-2009 Renesis. (no additional oil injectors etc)

If anybody on here works at mazda, I wouldn't mind seeing the results of an engine breakdown of the rotor housing and parts. I'm curious if the hydrogen fuel setting would provide a type of 'decarb' feature.

2nd. does the oil pump still deliver on this setting? It wouldn't make sense that it would IMO.
 
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