Notices
RX-8 Media News Report the latest RX-8 related news stories here.

Mazda to mass produce hydrogen rotaries

 
Thread Tools
 
Rate Thread
 
Old Oct 8, 2008 | 04:56 PM
  #1  
rotarygod's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 9,134
Likes: 26
From: Houston
Mazda to mass produce hydrogen rotaries

Saw this on Autoblog Green. It should make Zoom44 happy. Even though hydrogen is a crappy fuel for an internal combustion engine, I still like the idea of more rotaries getting built. That just means a conversion to other fuels is in order for real performance!

http://www.autobloggreen.com/2008/10...-in-about-5-y/
Old Oct 8, 2008 | 05:07 PM
  #2  
zoom44's Avatar
Administrator
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 21,958
Likes: 115
From: portland oregon
HEHEH i saw it this morning on autocar but didnt have time to post it.

they had an interesting photochop of the taiki with a more production like appearance



and yeah you are damn right it makes me happy
Old Oct 8, 2008 | 05:22 PM
  #3  
Floyd's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 285
Likes: 0
From: Colorado
Hmmm....something about that pic says "crossfire"
Old Oct 8, 2008 | 09:13 PM
  #4  
j_tso's Avatar
Registered
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 491
Likes: 32
I clicked on this thread hoping to find a bigger rant from rotarygod. so disappointed.
Old Oct 8, 2008 | 09:51 PM
  #5  
EdwardsB's Avatar
Registered RX-8 User
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 718
Likes: 0
From: PA/MD
now I just need this engine + hydrogen generator + solar panel = free gas, wouldnt care how low the mpgs were on hydro.

well not really still would need to buy everything first.


not saying its good or bad but this comment made me laugh:
If the 12 MPG RX-8 ends up solving the energy crisis my irony meter will explode.
Old Oct 8, 2008 | 10:47 PM
  #6  
Renesis_8's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,047
Likes: 0
From: Toronto, Canada
This whole hydrogen development from Mazda serves as a pretty good publicity move. They're pretty far ahead with hydrogen development compared to all other automakers. The Renesis hydrogen is definitely better than the hydrogen V12 from BMW. They could easily double the power by using PP housings to make 20B and 26B that run on H2.
________
Jomtien condos

Last edited by Renesis_8; Sep 11, 2011 at 02:52 PM.
Old Oct 8, 2008 | 11:05 PM
  #7  
Easy_E1's Avatar
Registered
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 7,675
Likes: 5
From: Bellevue WA
Can we add Nitrous to the Hydrogen? Muwahahahaha!
Old Oct 8, 2008 | 11:39 PM
  #8  
rotarygod's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 9,134
Likes: 26
From: Houston
Just what you need. Two gasses that can blow your intake manifold apart!
Old Oct 8, 2008 | 11:56 PM
  #9  
Ross_Dawg's Avatar
Registered Toker
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 5,545
Likes: 1
From: Bend, OR
^ lol... no he knows how to avoid that now



















I hope
Old Oct 9, 2008 | 08:13 AM
  #10  
nvrfalter's Avatar
tonybob failpants
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,270
Likes: 0
From: jersey, BITCH
Originally Posted by Floyd
Hmmm....something about that pic says "crossfire"
i thought the same thing. prettttty crossfire-esque
Old Oct 9, 2008 | 09:20 AM
  #11  
Huey52's Avatar
Registered Zoom Zoomer
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 4,089
Likes: 6
From: New England
And how many hydrogen filling stations currently planned for the entire length of I-5 in Cali; 10 I believe?

Nice to see Mazda developmental progress, but we need the infrastructure too.
Old Oct 9, 2008 | 09:44 AM
  #12  
RK's Avatar
RK
It's Not Easy Being Green
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,846
Likes: 0
From: Akron, OH
Originally Posted by Huey52
And how many hydrogen filling stations currently planned for the entire length of I-5 in Cali; 10 I believe?

Nice to see Mazda developmental progress, but we need the infrastructure too.
Chicken meet Egg.

If hydrogen cars get out into the wild then stations will build hydrogen pumps. Beyond that the 'station' infrastructure is going the way of the dodo with electric cars and hybrid cars that will eventually be able to go a thousand miles w/o a fill up. Home fueling is going to become more and more common so shelf life on stations at every exit marker on every highway can't be much more than 20 years. If anything they will probably embrace another fuel source that can extend the need for infrastructure.
Old Oct 9, 2008 | 10:48 AM
  #13  
zoom44's Avatar
Administrator
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 21,958
Likes: 115
From: portland oregon
the idea for those california stations and the ones planned in Washington state is to have a "Hydrogen Highway" running from the border with Mexico into Vancouver BC in time for the Vancouver winter games. Its actually supposed to go right on to Whistler. However this wonderful "green" state i live in has somehow not signed on leaving a big gap in Oregon.

West Coast Hydrogen Highway

Wiki with note about Canadian Hydrogen Highway also talks about a proposed Hydrogen corridor between Detroit , Toronto and Montreal

Vancouver Olympics to Join Fuel Cell Bus Club with "Fleet" of fuel cell buses



Supposedly Oregon has signed on to the West Coast Hydrogen Highway- but our Govenor and and Reps in Salem are completely incapable of doing anything imaginative so i still doubt it'll happen here in time for the Olympics since relatively nothing has been done since this 2006 article

http://www.hydrogencarsnow.com/blog2...rogen-economy/
Old Oct 9, 2008 | 11:20 AM
  #14  
Huey52's Avatar
Registered Zoom Zoomer
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 4,089
Likes: 6
From: New England
"A hydrogen filling infrastructure is generally assumed to be a pre-requisite for mass utilization of hydrogen cars. " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_highway

It seems we need the egg first.

Originally Posted by RK
Chicken meet Egg.

If hydrogen cars get out into the wild then stations will build hydrogen pumps. Beyond that the 'station' infrastructure is going the way of the dodo with electric cars and hybrid cars that will eventually be able to go a thousand miles w/o a fill up. Home fueling is going to become more and more common so shelf life on stations at every exit marker on every highway can't be much more than 20 years. If anything they will probably embrace another fuel source that can extend the need for infrastructure.
Old Oct 9, 2008 | 11:28 AM
  #15  
Socket7's Avatar
ಠ_ಠ
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,228
Likes: 6
From: Under the Dumbarton Bridge
The test mules they have in service now also run on gasoline too.

If mazda can make these cars run dual fuel then we can get the hydrogen economy rolling and get stations out, and not have to worry about always needing to be near a hydrogen filling station. We can also have a button on our dash that lets you flip the car between "fun" and "hippy"
Old Oct 9, 2008 | 11:29 AM
  #16  
zoom44's Avatar
Administrator
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 21,958
Likes: 115
From: portland oregon
its neither. they have to be done at the same time. initially as its done right now the stations are a mix of built by the companies that make the vehicles or by the governmental/business ventures that by them or in some partnership.

as more vehicles get on the road there will be more demand and then regular gasoline filling stations will add a Pump that is actually a hydrogen reformer using natural gas.

there can and should be a tax incentive( that expires after some future date. 10 yrs? 15? ) to encourage the NG reformer pump. SO that NG vehicles (Pickens Plan!!) can fill up as well as hydrogen vehicles.
Old Oct 9, 2008 | 11:30 AM
  #17  
zoom44's Avatar
Administrator
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 21,958
Likes: 115
From: portland oregon
Originally Posted by Socket7
We can also have a button on our dash that lets you flip the car between "fun" and "hippy"
i just filed for the Trademark for a FUN/Hippy switch
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
ktec
Series I Wheels, Tires, Brakes & Suspension
6
Jun 26, 2021 10:18 AM
talonhart2
RX-8's For Sale/Wanted
4
Aug 26, 2015 04:14 PM
IamFodi
RX-8 Discussion
1
Aug 11, 2015 01:51 PM
whitelight42
New Member Forum
10
Jul 22, 2015 04:13 PM
AussieGray
RX-8's For Sale/Wanted
0
Jul 16, 2015 03:58 AM



You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:41 PM.