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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 10:35 AM
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which sway bars???

i am new to the rx8 and i just went to my first autocross event. i noticed the car has a lot of under steer. what is the best way bars for the money
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 11:11 AM
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Factory alignment specs are 0 camber front, -1.5 camber rear.

I think there's a thread in this section specifically about sway bars...
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 11:48 AM
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some people say progress sways.
i remember some people who have them mentoned the weak braket issue for these sway bars. do some search, and u will find out.
i am looking to get agency power cuz i dont need too stiff and their price is decreased on the market.
there are tons of selections with provided stiffness rate. it all depends what u need them for.
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 12:18 PM
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i tryed doing a search really coudnt come up with anything if you can give me a link to this topic that would be great. i drive the car everyday but once a month go to a autocross event im looking for the stiffest set without going crazy money. i would love to go to coilovers but there is no way i have the money for it.

agian thanks for all your help
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 03:58 AM
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it only understeers because you haven't optimized what you've already got, throwing sways at it first is only treating the symptom, not curing the illness ...
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 04:04 AM
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Wow. You are the first person ever to ask about this. I wish there were other threads in this forum dedicated to sway bars and suspension tuning for the RX8.
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 09:13 AM
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how would you like me to optimize what i have
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by G3RX8
how would you like me to optimize what i have
a proper alignment, tire pressure, and driving style

the only parts to change if you really insist on doing anything would be to replace the OE shocks with Koni

installing sways before shocks is putting the cart in front of the donkey ... almost any serious SCCA Stock class car will outperform almost every modded suspension car on this forum and the only significant change they do is to use Koni shocks
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 02:11 PM
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It's been a while since I read the rules, but in stock class, you are only allowed to replace the front swaybar. You are already understeering. So, adding a stiffer front sway bar will only add to the understeer. Like Team said, change out the shocks. Also, work on the caster/camber settings on the front.
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 04:11 PM
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^I agree with them about getting the Koni's. But if you do want some good sway bars, I would recommend Racing Beat, I have them and I definitally noticed a different.
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 09:35 PM
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gary, i would advise u search a long time , unless u like flames......
im looking at hotchkis sways ,but only front in hopes of getting back to bstock...
wait a minute...... u dont have to worry that exhaust delete will put u out of stock so u could change both
u should come run street mod with me, till i get a hood anyway.....

buy some r compound tires and learn the cars handling properties= best bang for$

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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 02:00 PM
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thanks for your replys what would konis do for the car im new to all so please be nice
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 02:13 PM
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konis are great struts (aka shocks), much better then the OEM ones. The beauty of them is they are fully adjustable so for Autocross you can crank up the stiffness.

the fronts are adjusted by popping the hood
the rears do require them to be removed.

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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Jedi54
The beauty of them is they are fully adjustable so for Autocross you can crank up the stiffness.
I was under the impression that the Koni dampers that most people are using only have adjustable rebound?
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 06:10 PM
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would a cheap mod for now can i just get a rear sway bar how would this afect the cars driving everyday and on the track thanks for all your guys help
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 06:39 PM
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dude learn the car before you start adding stuff to it, go to a couple of auto crosses, learn how to drive the car, learn the limits of the car, then start to add stuff as you please.
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by rotary.enthusiast
I was under the impression that the Koni dampers that most people are using only have adjustable rebound?
Yes. Well they are more adjustable than the OEM shocks.
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 09:21 PM
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i have been to a couple of track events and i want to improve the understear without spending lots of money thats why i want to know what would happen if i only do a rear sway bar for now
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 10:15 PM
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Maybe it's just me, but with the stock suspension I only really noticed understeer when turning hard under heavy throttle? I'm not the best driver in the world, but I don't think you should find yourself in that situation on the track very often
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Old Aug 7, 2008 | 09:13 AM
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anyone have any idea what would the car be like if you just changed the rear sway bar
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Old Aug 7, 2008 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by alnielsen
You are already understeering. So, adding a stiffer front sway bar will only add to the understeer.
Conversely, a stiffer rear sway bar will make the car more prone to oversteer. Our cars are very well balanced from the factory, and you might not even realize it until you start modding the suspension indiscriminately.
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Old Aug 7, 2008 | 10:14 AM
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from the factory the car has major understeer so just a stiffer rear sway bar may balance it out no????
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Old Aug 7, 2008 | 10:27 AM
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I'm not trying to be rude, but it seems like you already know exactly what you want to do regardless of anyone's input. Why not just bite the bullet and put in a stiff rear sway bar?
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Old Aug 7, 2008 | 11:47 AM
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b/c i really dont know what it is going to do may caus to much oversteer for everyday driving
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Old Aug 7, 2008 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Devil
Factory alignment specs are 0 camber front, -1.5 camber rear.
Originally Posted by TeamRX8
it only understeers because you haven't optimized what you've already got, throwing sways at it first is only treating the symptom, not curing the illness ...
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