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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 12:46 PM
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why is the resale value on 8's so poor?

Considering the "type" of car it's equivalents rival such as the S2000, 350Z's and other similar "roadster coupe's"

what makes the 8's such lowball contender?
Old Feb 8, 2008 | 12:47 PM
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the engine, imo

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resale is poor because mazda overproduced them when they overestimated demand.

then mazda had to offload them by doing deep discounts off MSRP. At one point people were buying for 8-9k under MSRP for brand new Rx-8s. This in turn forced the used RX-8's to drop their price even further to sell. Afterall, who'll pay 20k for a car with 15k miles when you can buy one for 20k brand new?

Mazda has since dropped production down to a reasonable level, but we still feel it's effects.
Old Feb 8, 2008 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Canadian8
Considering the "type" of car it's equivalents rival such as the S2000, 350Z's and other similar "roadster coupe's"

what makes the 8's such lowball contender?
You mean you're in an English grammar competition?
Old Feb 8, 2008 | 01:10 PM
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There isn't a lot of demand for the 8's in the first place. I suspect in several years we may see a spike in their value when they are no longer made.
Old Feb 8, 2008 | 01:12 PM
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15 mpg city+ 170 whp, enough said.
Old Feb 8, 2008 | 01:13 PM
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Socket7
There isn't a lot of demand for the 8's in the first place. I suspect in several years we may see a spike in their value when they are no longer made.
there won't be a 'spike' in value, just a leveling off in depreciation when the 8 is no longer made lol
Old Feb 8, 2008 | 01:45 PM
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15 mpg city+ 170 whp, enough said.


yeah... only enthusiasts really care about just how awesome the handling is.
Old Feb 8, 2008 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Canadian8
Considering the "type" of car it's equivalents rival such as the S2000, 350Z's and other similar "roadster coupe's"

what makes the 8's such lowball contender?
Low turnover, and who it is that sells them.

The other cars you mention, while special in their own way, are kind of mainstream. There's kind of a regular market in people who buy them and sell in a few years. Mostly toy of the moment, handed around from owner to owner.

Most RX-8 owners would never dream of selling their cars. I don't want to say that someone who gets rid of an 8 is a feeb, but most sellers just aren't the top of the heap and let themselves be taken on the deal.

Tough on a worthy RX-8 owner who has to sell their car for reasons beyond their control, but the mob sets the market.

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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 01:50 PM
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Resale is GREAT on these cars.

I bought my car for $19,999 brand new

It is now 2 years old, with 25,000 miles


People sell cars like mine for about $18000-$19000 <-- there is the real value
KBB says it is worth $22,480 <--- that is what a bank will loan against the car


So I have lost about $2000 in 2 years.
Or $1000 per year
or $83.34 per month . .. . ..

That sounds pretty good to me.

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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 03:02 PM
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according to the Canadian Gold Book, the 350Z has worse resale value than the rx-8. The Z's MSRP is higher too.
Old Feb 8, 2008 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by rglbegl
Resale is GREAT on these cars.

I bought my car for $19,999 brand new

It is now 2 years old, with 25,000 miles


People sell cars like mine for about $18000-$19000 <-- there is the real value
KBB says it is worth $22,480 <--- that is what a bank will loan against the car


So I have lost about $2000 in 2 years.
Or $1000 per year
or $83.34 per month . .. . ..

That sounds pretty good to me.
How often do you see rx8s sold for KBB values?

Yeah.
Old Feb 8, 2008 | 05:54 PM
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The KBB on my car was 19k and I got 16k for it. I also consider the sale an incredible stroke of luck.

Our cars are a testament that Kelly is crap. You will get laughed off the car lot if you mention that name in this area.
Old Feb 8, 2008 | 05:57 PM
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because there are so many dumb-*** kids that think the Stang is such a great car.
Old Feb 8, 2008 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ZoomZoomH
there won't be a 'spike' in value, just a leveling off in depreciation when the 8 is no longer made lol
you'll see. When we all drive electric golf carts, RX-8's with their fossil fuel rotary engines will be worth a fortune if they aren't rusted to pieces by then. People like Jay Leno will pay stupid amounts of money for em.
Old Feb 8, 2008 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by mysql101
resale is poor because mazda overproduced them when they overestimated demand.

then mazda had to offload them by doing deep discounts off MSRP. At one point people were buying for 8-9k under MSRP for brand new Rx-8s. This in turn forced the used RX-8's to drop their price even further to sell. Afterall, who'll pay 20k for a car with 15k miles when you can buy one for 20k brand new?

Mazda has since dropped production down to a reasonable level, but we still feel it's effects.
Mine fell into this category and my salesman asked the same question as he showed me a used WWP for more money than I just paid for mine brand new.

I think in addition to the power shortage, it is also a lack of support from Mazda. I have alot of people tell me what a nice car I have and then in the same question ask me what it is and who makes it.
Old Feb 8, 2008 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by mysql101
resale is poor because mazda overproduced them when they overestimated demand.

then mazda had to offload them by doing deep discounts off MSRP. At one point people were buying for 8-9k under MSRP for brand new Rx-8s. This in turn forced the used RX-8's to drop their price even further to sell. Afterall, who'll pay 20k for a car with 15k miles when you can buy one for 20k brand new?

Mazda has since dropped production down to a reasonable level, but we still feel it's effects.
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 09:16 PM
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well i guess its a good time to buy if everybody is trying to sell...
Old Feb 8, 2008 | 09:29 PM
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well i guess its a good time to buy if everybody is trying to sell...
right now is a VERY good time to buy
Old Feb 8, 2008 | 10:35 PM
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Oh dear god, not this again. The resale value isn't crap, it's pretty average. Do some research before posting this stuff over and over and over again. This has been discussed pretty thoroughly about every 2 months for the past three years.
Old Feb 8, 2008 | 11:10 PM
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 11:19 PM
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It's not cheap. It was made to be affordable in the first place.
The resale value would be no different from its sporty counterparts, aside from some slight depreciation effects.
Old Feb 8, 2008 | 11:22 PM
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I would say we are just under the 350Z.
Old Feb 8, 2008 | 11:27 PM
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more supply than demand... just that.


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