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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 06:21 PM
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Road & Track 12 Best

Got my Road & Track yesterday. They had an article on the 12 best cars under $30k. RX-8 wasn't even mentioned. Some of the cars they listed were the Scion tC, for crying out loud. And the Chevy Cobalt SS!?!?

What is wrong with those guys?
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Chasvhill
Got my Road & Track yesterday. They had an article on the 12 best cars under $30k. RX-8 wasn't even mentioned. Some of the cars they listed were the Scion tC, for crying out loud. And the Chevy Cobalt SS!?!?

What is wrong with those guys?
All of the potential issues with the rotary along with all the recalls I'm sure docked the 8 quite a few points.

Still, C & D has given our car a top 10 best award 3 years running. You would think Road and Track would take that into consideration.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 06:28 PM
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Sometimes I think magazines like that try to 'advertise' a variety of cars, not just the ones everbody already knows is great.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 06:31 PM
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So what all are on the list?
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 06:34 PM
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Umm, the 8's 3 years old and hasn't changed a bit. Old hat, as they say.

The Cobalt SS is a fantastic bit of engineering, and takes out it's competitors in pretty much every performance category. Why shouldn't it get the nod.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 06:36 PM
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Mostly pretty good cars. Chevy Cobalt SS, Mustang GT, Civic SI, Miata PRHT, MazdaSpeed 3, Cooper S JCW, Lancer Evo, 350Z, Pontiac Solstice, Scion tC TRD, Subaru Impreza WRX, and VW GTI. They picked the Z as best overall.

I still thing the RX-8 should have been in there. But that would have made three Mazdas on the list. Might not be politically correct.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 06:47 PM
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how can you rate a damn mazdaspeed3 it hasn't even been out long at all!!! lol wow good job reviews. Srry i find it funny that a ******* civic SI is in there, and the best of it all is the 350z is the best overall... can someone explain how it is. *maybe cuz its lack of space* or maybe its shitty interior. NO I KNOW! cuz it says nissan...... what a joke. RX8 best overall car! sorry to be harsh just my thought.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 06:57 PM
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^hehe potty mouth potty mouth 1andonly is a potty mouth
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 1andonly
how can you rate a damn mazdaspeed3 it hasn't even been out long at all!!! lol wow good job reviews. Srry i find it funny that a ******* civic SI is in there, and the best of it all is the 350z is the best overall... can someone explain how it is. *maybe cuz its lack of space* or maybe its shitty interior. NO I KNOW! cuz it says nissan...... what a joke. RX8 best overall car! sorry to be harsh just my thought.
the SI is an excellent little car, great engine too.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 07:00 PM
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^i agree i test drove the Si with my girl..i loved it waaaaaaaaaaay better than the rsx-s..hehe but not nearly as much as i love my 8
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 1andonly
how can you rate a damn mazdaspeed3 it hasn't even been out long at all!!! lol wow good job reviews. Srry i find it funny that a ******* civic SI is in there, and the best of it all is the 350z is the best overall... can someone explain how it is. *maybe cuz its lack of space* or maybe its shitty interior. NO I KNOW! cuz it says nissan...... what a joke. RX8 best overall car! sorry to be harsh just my thought.
Yay, another new fanboi joins the club!
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 07:03 PM
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^hehehe fanboi's RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 07:27 PM
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It does seem like a pretty good list, but some of them do make me wonder how the Rx8 isn't mentioned at all.

Oh well, i have an 8, and none of hte above mentioned cars so...I guess I don't care what they think! lol
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 07:30 PM
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srry that my thought makes me a fanboi...... <3 you guys thow no matter what you call me :D lol
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 07:36 PM
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As much as I hate to say it, whnever a magazine that earns most of their revenue from advertising publishes a "best of" article, you can bet they aren't losing any money over it.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 07:56 PM
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maybe the 8's not considered an "under $30K" car...considering how their tested model would easily MSRP for over $33K if it's fully loaded.

Just a thought.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Stavesacre21
maybe the 8's not considered an "under $30K" car...considering how their tested model would easily MSRP for over $33K if it's fully loaded.

Just a thought.
Same thing goes for other cars on that list, though. The 350Z is well over 30k well equiped as well as the EVO.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 10:02 PM
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C&D has a hard-on for Mazda, so Mazda always win in their mind.

I agree with the previous poster. The base price of the Z and 8 might be in the 20s, but they usually come out over $30K. It's sad, very sad. I am not a big Honda guy, but I am starting to love Acura's one price strategy. Of course it is nice to be able to put what you want on it. For example, I hate sunroofs. I would try my best to avoid one. But that would mean i cant get heated seats.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 10:14 PM
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Yay, another new fanboi joins the club!

Need more haters like Ike to even things out
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 10:15 PM
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Need more haters like Ike to even things out
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 10:16 PM
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Z's base is like 29855 or something like that... the 8 is in the 27s....
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 10:17 PM
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I find Road and Track pretty even handed. Maybe they thought that having three Mazdas in the top twelve too much. Certainly they would get letters over that!

I don't have that issue yet so I will hold off on this particular article.

R&D and C&D have always beeen pretty good about giving faint priase to cars they didn't like and being estatic (sp?) over cars they loved. They have always shown their like for the 8 as a drivers car.

Write them and ask them "what's up?" Maybe I will when I get the mag.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 11:06 PM
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The MS3 pretty well obliterates the Civic Si in every imaginable performance category, and the "regular" 3 has it all over the "regular" Civic, too, on "regular car" terms... On that basis, it's kinda hard to figure out how the Si managed to make it in the Top Twelve.

At worst the '8 would deserve an honorable mention. The Z doesn't kill the '8 like the MS3 kills the Si, not by a long shot.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 11:37 PM
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im pretty sure that like many other non-8 fans, all of the car mags would probably be A LOT more quick to jump on the RX bandwagon if it would eve come out with another30-50HP stock.

Not to say it's going to happen by any means, but almost every professional review states the same...awesome car to drive, but is always just on the TIP of euphoria, but then slides back down the ascending side right before almost getting over the power satisfaction moutain.

Taking in all good and bad, i guess i could see the 8 as being right about at the cutoff of the medias overall top 12 view.
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by zaglo6204
Z's base is like 29855 or something like that... the 8 is in the 27s....
Z starts at 27650
rx8 starts at 26435
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