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theguy1991 12-22-2017 03:38 PM

Ramps for oil changes
 
I've got some metal ramps but of course the nose is too long to go up it. Which ramps do you guys use? I've also got jack stands as well, but the scissor jack included with the car won't get high enough for me to get the stands underneath at a good height. What do you guys do when it comes to this? I've seen race ramps but those jokers are expensive AF.

Brettus 12-22-2017 03:45 PM

I got an 8x2 timber beam and cut it to about 3' long . Then cut one end to form a wedge about 1' long with a 2' parallel section . I drive onto those then slide low profile floor jack under and jack it up high enough to fit the axle stands . It's worth going to some time and effort to do something like that so that it's easy to get the front jacked up .

TomD_Cincy 12-22-2017 04:15 PM

I use a low profile hydraulic jack to jack up the from under the cross member. It's a tight fit for my stock ride height R3.

BigCajun 12-22-2017 05:37 PM

I've been doing a pretty labor intensive process involving a floor jack & Rhino Ramps for the rear wheels, but the result is good.
For just an oil change, an average guy could use jackstands on just the front, but I like a lot of room (cause "Big") so I'll jack the rear up as high as I can after backing up on the ramps.

I lay some staggered 2"×8"s down behind the front wheels because the front will be too low for a floor jack without them.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...cca3cdfe32.jpg
Then I'll put the Rhino Ramps behind the back wheels and back up onto the ramps & boards.
Then I use a high lift floor jack to lift it up for jackstands.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...f7592bda35.jpg

Steve Dallas 12-22-2017 08:13 PM

Stacked and beveled 2x10s as makeshift ramps to get the front high enough to slide a low profile jack under the front crossmember, then up high enough to place jack stands for safety.

Some people swear by these:

https://smile.amazon.com/RhinoGear-1...rds=race+ramps

I think they make a lower profile version.

Jastreb 12-23-2017 12:01 AM

I use the scissor jack to lift one side a few inches (tire stays on ground). That gives enough clearance to get a low profile floor jack under the front cross-member. Then I jack it up as normal and use jack stands under the front lower wishbones (they fit nicely in the groove on the wishbone. I use some padding so they don't gouge the aluminum).

TeamRX8 12-23-2017 01:07 AM

A floor jack and 4 jackstands, K.I.S.S.

BigCajun 12-23-2017 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 4846873)
A floor jack and 4 jackstands, K.I.S.S.

Easy to say.
I don't want to jack it up from the side, and with the appearance package, jacking it up front or back first precludes getting the jack under the opposite end.
If I could do it S.S., I would.

TeamRX8 12-23-2017 11:01 AM

3-points

Front side, opposite side, rear center

Takes several minutes, no garage clutter

Well it worked for me the last 12 years any way

theguy1991 12-23-2017 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by BigCajun (Post 4846886)
Easy to say.
I don't want to jack it up from the side, and with the appearance package, jacking it up front or back first precludes getting the jack under the opposite end.
If I could do it S.S., I would.

I tried just using jackstands I already have. But I was only able to jack the car high enough to get the lowest setting of the stands underneath. Because I was using the oem scissor jack. Got underneath the car and realized I have zero room. Basically was only as high as the max setting of the Oem scissor jack.

BigCajun 12-23-2017 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by theguy1991 (Post 4846894)
I tried just using jackstands I already have. But I was only able to jack the car high enough to get the lowest setting of the stands underneath. Because I was using the oem scissor jack. Got underneath the car and realized I have zero room. Basically was only as high as the max setting of the Oem scissor jack.

You need a floor jack then.

TeamRX8 12-23-2017 04:49 PM

You should not under any circumstances use the scissors jack for maintenance or regular useage. It’s only intended to get the tire off the ground to replace a flat tire. Anything else a a significant safety issue because it was never designed beyond minimum stability for that one “emergency use” purpose.

wannawankel 12-23-2017 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by Steve Dallas (Post 4846865)
Stacked and beveled 2x10s as makeshift ramps to get the front high enough to slide a low profile jack under the front crossmember, then up high enough to place jack stands for safety.

Some people swear by these:

https://smile.amazon.com/RhinoGear-1...rds=race+ramps

I think they make a lower profile version.

Those RhinoGear 11909ABMI RhinoRamps are wonderful. I've been able to work on my RX-8, CRV, BMW E91 with M-sport front end, and a few others. It has just the right angle to prevent rubbing the front lower parts.

NotAPreppie 12-24-2017 12:04 AM

Just got these for myself for Xmas...

BigCajun 12-24-2017 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by NotAPreppie (Post 4846927)
Just got these for myself for Xmas...
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00UHLPES0

I'm glad you posted that.:)
I might have to get a set.
They look high enough at 2.5" (same as two 2×s) for the front to get my jack under, beats stacking boards.
They tagged some jack pads with them that would come in handy for supporting the car at the designated jacking points.

theguy1991 12-24-2017 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 4846905)
You should not under any circumstances use the scissors jack for maintenance or regular useage. It’s only intended to get the tire off the ground to replace a flat tire. Anything else a a significant safety issue because it was never designed beyond minimum stability for that one “emergency use” purpose.

What is a good floor jack to get? And what should it's max height be?

theguy1991 12-24-2017 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by wannawankel (Post 4846910)
Those RhinoGear 11909ABMI RhinoRamps are wonderful. I've been able to work on my RX-8, CRV, BMW E91 with M-sport front end, and a few others. It has just the right angle to prevent rubbing the front lower parts.

I was looking at getting those but then freaked myself out reading reviews about them cracking and failing.

BigCajun 12-24-2017 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by theguy1991 (Post 4846943)
What is a good floor jack to get? And what should it's max height be?

You can judge for yourself, I would suggest a low profile with at least 18" lift.
More is better, but the higher you get, the more expensive it will be.

BigCajun 12-24-2017 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by theguy1991 (Post 4846944)
I was looking at getting those but then freaked myself out reading reviews about them cracking and failing.

I have 4 I use a lot, and also put my '95 Nissan 4WD on them, no issues.
Keep them clean & not out in the weather and they should be fine.

tgaffner 12-24-2017 09:04 PM

I bought these awhile back and love them. 12” wheel cribs by Race Ramps.


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...77aeaa7f1.jpeg

NotAPreppie 12-24-2017 09:58 PM


Originally Posted by theguy1991 (Post 4846943)
What is a good floor jack to get? And what should it's max height be?

I've been eyeing this one to replace my old Craftsman jack...


TeamRX8 12-25-2017 09:39 AM

Yeah, but I see people drop $500 - $2000 for that foam ramp stuff, seems a bit insane to me

Cribs are ok, but if you need to do suspension work it has to be on stands unless you want to monkey around one corner at a time moving the crib in/out. The way I place my stands makes me feel as comfortable on them as cribs (been sitting there for four years :rolleyes: ). So I’m the outlier I suppose because the extra equipment, space, cost, etc. for the simple thing that does what I need for everything is good enough.



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theguy1991 12-29-2017 11:02 PM

I wound up just borrowing my cousin's jack and using the stands. Worked out ok. Thanks for all the responses!


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