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paimon.soror Apr 13, 2012 06:51 AM

I hear ya (thanks for the link godesshunter). When i get this one well underway in production for the S2 guys, I will take a look to see exactly what goes on in the S1 and see if I can make something similar. Have you looked at the GOODBox though?

Tamas Apr 13, 2012 04:20 PM

Yes, but I remember that it had issues with the display getting garbled and looking like a slot machine... not sure if those problems got completely fixed. Will have to inquire about that.

ShellDude Apr 13, 2012 04:51 PM

I do believe slot machine was fixed with a hardware revision.

Deminic Apr 13, 2012 09:26 PM

Forgive me for missing some stuff since I entered this late, but I noticed that the S1 thread states tire pressure and temp. This, for me, is a significant selling point. Is this true, and is there an estimated cost yet?

bhammer Apr 18, 2012 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by Deminic (Post 4238929)
Forgive me for missing some stuff since I entered this late, but I noticed that the S1 thread states tire pressure and temp. This, for me, is a significant selling point. Is this true, and is there an estimated cost yet?

Deminic, this is for an SII and yes, TPMS data will be available on the screen. Read the previous thread page. There is some estimated cost data right there for you.

ShellDude Apr 19, 2012 02:30 PM

paimon.soror,

Would you be willing to share the Mode, ID, data type, and formulas for things you've discovered on the BUS outside of the standard SAE spec?

I have a list of all the Mazda specific functions, but no cross reference back to the actual PIDs. I've been thinking about buying a Bluetooth Sniffer to do a portmon of sorts to determine what apps like Parmer Dashcommand are using to query the "hidden" Mazda PIDs.

I own the Mazda Extended version of the product but am dreading having to go through all the hassle of sniffing the wire and basically reverse engineering the conversation.

Thanks in advance,
Shell

paimon.soror Apr 19, 2012 02:35 PM

Unfortunately the Ford extended PIDs are data in which I cannot unveil. This information is distributed through Mazda via a purchase of a temporary license and therefore not legal to distribute without said license.

ShellDude Apr 19, 2012 02:38 PM

Hmm, perhaps I should start with a Google search of the Ford extended set then... I'm aware of the licensing that goes into normal (non public domain) access to this crap... was hoping you'd already done the reverse engineering.

paimon.soror Apr 19, 2012 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by Deminic (Post 4238929)
Forgive me for missing some stuff since I entered this late, but I noticed that the S1 thread states tire pressure and temp. This, for me, is a significant selling point. Is this true, and is there an estimated cost yet?


Originally Posted by bhammer (Post 4242583)
Deminic, this is for an SII and yes, TPMS data will be available on the screen. Read the previous thread page. There is some estimated cost data right there for you.

Thanks bhammer for answering his question. Also for what it is worth, GoddessHunter was given a short demonstration this past weekend. Today I am expecting the delivery of the enclosure.

godesshunter Apr 19, 2012 06:07 PM

It was very cool! Like looking at the "display data" on a snap-on scanner, but right there on the dash. I still think you should have some fancy label made to put on the outside of the box. Everybody like flashy swag. :)

paimon.soror Apr 19, 2012 06:25 PM

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-6...419_192244.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-N...419_192100.jpg

paimon.soror Apr 19, 2012 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by godesshunter (Post 4243919)
It was very cool! Like looking at the "display data" on a snap-on scanner, but right there on the dash. I still think you should have some fancy label made to put on the outside of the box. Everybody like flashy swag. :)

Haha thanks brother, I appreciate the support :)

Maybe we can have some sort of "logo-off" ... everyone tries to create me a logo and they get one for free if they win. lol.

paimon.soror Apr 20, 2012 11:39 AM

Going to be creating the instruction manual this weekend. Expect the group buy to start next week.

benben01 Apr 20, 2012 11:04 PM

Great Job! Count me in as a legit buyer :)

ShellDude Apr 20, 2012 11:15 PM


Originally Posted by paimon.soror (Post 4243694)
Unfortunately the Ford extended PIDs are data in which I cannot unveil. This information is distributed through Mazda via a purchase of a temporary license and therefore not legal to distribute without said license.

Found 'em! I've got the whole extended set. Drop me a PM if you've got any gaps...


ASH8 Apr 20, 2012 11:42 PM

I wonder what will happen with Rx-Duino for those markets (mine) what does not have TPMS?
Will one have to click cycle through open/blank screens I guess....so If you can add them at the end of mode?

paimon.soror Apr 21, 2012 04:05 PM

If anyone is bored and would like to help proof read the instructions, it would be much appreciated!

http://normalexception.net/index.php...ino-user-guide

I will be adding more pics of the actual device to the instructions so just take note that this isn't the completed document. Thanks!


Originally Posted by ASH8 (Post 4244919)
I wonder what will happen with Rx-Duino for those markets (mine) what does not have TPMS?
Will one have to click cycle through open/blank screens I guess....so If you can add them at the end of mode?

I will have a firmware set for international users that do not have TPMS that would just not have that Mode ;)


Originally Posted by ShellDude (Post 4244907)
Found 'em! I've got the whole extended set. Drop me a PM if you've got any gaps...


Lookin good, hope it wasn't too hard to find. Thanks for being understanding on why I couldn't give out the pids

ASH8 Apr 21, 2012 04:18 PM

Paimon..Page 4..look at Description and that it says, it stops at "this mode is similar to what other"..other what? :)

Sorry, I did not go to page 5...DOH!!!!!!!

oltmann Apr 21, 2012 04:24 PM

Here is my list of mode 22 PIDs. I didn't agree to any licenses. :)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...EE&output=html

ShellDude Apr 21, 2012 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by paimon.soror (Post 4245274)
Lookin good, hope it wasn't too hard to find. Thanks for being understanding on why I couldn't give out the pids

I certainly understand if you or your source are under contractual obligation to not share the mode 22 pids. I've got the PIDs inventoried ... now it's just a matter of decoding the individual results. Having an idea of how Mazda encodes kpa and temperature would be extremely helpful but I've done some heavy decoding of weather station data in the past so it should only be a matter of time till I have the data in a format that is usable.

Oltmann, you rock!

ASH8 Apr 21, 2012 04:31 PM

Another MODE that I don't think will work for RHD General Markets (Like Australia) is the
MPG Mode?..is that calculated from a 'Trip Computer' which Australia does not have in S2's?, unless you are using some other formula to calculate based on run time?...

Litres per 100 KMH?

.....

Looks OK to me mate..:)

paimon.soror Apr 21, 2012 04:51 PM

I am actually calculating theoretical MPG through the MAF, speed, and AFR through an equation.

Btw I will set up the international firmware to use the metric system instead of English so you guys dont have to look at our silly miles and pounds

ASH8 Apr 21, 2012 05:00 PM

OK, sounds good...;)

Good job Paimon...on your Rx...very professional.

And yeah we changed over to metric, jeez about 40 years ago....SO much easier.

Rotaman Apr 21, 2012 05:27 PM

paimon.soror

Can firmware be modified or changed once it has been setup on a device? For example could the firmware of Cobb's Accessport be modified to work with JDM RX8's and Access Tuner Race software?

Sorry to ask this question on this tread, but you seem to be one of the more clued up people on this sort of subject.

Any info would be much appreciated.

Rotaman

paimon.soror Apr 21, 2012 07:07 PM

as far as firmware on my device, no it cannot be modified by the user as it is first converted to hex and then garbled up a bit so no one steals my code ;).

Unfortunately I am not well versed in the COBB to know the answer to your actual question.


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