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c_ls 11-16-2010 10:41 AM

Greddy turbo kit for S2 possibility?
 
I sent Greddy an email inquiring about any possible plans and got this as a response:

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Currently there are not immediate plans to make a update or new turbo kit for the newer 09+ RX8s, however if you have any more info (like a forum link) with more RX8 owners interested in a revised GReddy turbo kit, we would love to talk a look at it to see what the possibilities are.
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Can we get a list going of everyone interested? It seems like we would have a lot of people. Once and if we get enough posts, I'll forward the thread link to them.

Jedi54 11-16-2010 10:43 AM

How do you plan on tuning it?

c_ls 11-16-2010 11:09 AM

That's my biggest worry. Hopefully they will figure something out?

paimon.soror 11-16-2010 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by Jedi54 (Post 3785367)
How do you plan on tuning it?

Thats the kicker right there ...

Looks like spray is the only way to go with the S2 until a ecu tuner is developed.

c_ls 11-16-2010 11:27 AM

Would something like their e-manage system be capable of it?

paimon.soror 11-16-2010 11:30 AM

Nope, let me note that I haven't had any experience with boost, but from what i have read, emanage is a no no.

c_ls 11-16-2010 11:38 AM

Damn. Let's pretend funds were not a problem. Is there a reliable way of tuning a series II?

p.s you just reminded me I need to catch up on cyanide and happiness

mike[piston eater] 11-16-2010 11:41 AM

probably going full standalone but i doubt people would wanna do that on a new car

MazdaManiac 11-16-2010 11:53 AM

If GReddy did take the plunge into a system for the '90+ (hightly unlikely), they would use the e-Manage for sure.
It would work the same for the new models as it did for the old - which is to say just fine, as long as you stay with the kit as shipped and 6 PSI.

steve2tails 11-16-2010 02:40 PM

Would be nice to see it made

c_ls 11-16-2010 02:51 PM

For my tastes a small boost of 6psi would be perfect. From tracking the R3, I find it needs just a little more acceleration to balance out the excellent handling.

Rydiak 11-16-2010 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by c_ls (Post 3785840)
For my tastes a small boost of 6psi would be perfect. From tracking the R3, I find it needs just a little more acceleration to balance out the excellent handling.

Agreed. The car only needs 50 to 60 more bhp to be perfect.

MazdaManiac 11-16-2010 11:39 PM


Originally Posted by Rydiak (Post 3786377)
Agreed. The car only needs 50 to 60 more bhp to be perfect.

They all say that.

no-piston 11-17-2010 01:05 PM

hi everyone....on serie II not any standalone or fuelmanagement work?..or it juste the harness is missing?..i check for a top mouth turbo kit...can it fit?...any help it very apreciate because i plan to f\i my 8 this winter...thank

Rufledt 11-17-2010 01:15 PM

I would be very interested in this kit, but not immediately. As long as I have a warranty and my only other vehical is nearing the end of it's reliable life, I'm not gonna do anything to my car that would void my warranty. In a few years, though, I'm in. They said no immediate plans, but hopefully they have eventual plans. I'm no market expert but they would probobly get better sales after some S2's run out of warranty anyway.

gregs 11-17-2010 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by MazdaManiac (Post 3786446)
They all say that.

I did..now i say 100+:naughty:

NgoRX8 11-17-2010 11:42 PM

the temptation with turbo is a dangerous thing. it's never enough, never satisfied.

Brettus 11-18-2010 12:07 AM


Originally Posted by NgoRX8 (Post 3787926)
the temptation with turbo is a dangerous thing. it's never enough, never satisfied.

Story time ?

Grog 11-21-2010 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by NgoRX8 (Post 3787926)
the temptation with turbo is a dangerous thing. it's never enough, never satisfied.

I'm listening...

Rufledt 11-21-2010 10:54 PM

I know this is about the greddy turbo kit, but if Greddy is watching, maybe they could just come out with ANY way of tuning the S2, and they would have a monopoly on that product. The Esmeril guy said their turbo kit bolts right up to a S2 (just with no way to tune it), so Greddy may not even have to engineer a new turbo kit, just figure out the tuning problem and package that with the existing kit. Even apart from the turbo, the tuning stuff would be desired by all of the somewhat few people out there with a newer Rx8 they are looking to tune. Still probobly not enough to make a profit just yet, but it sure would be nice.

and when are we gonna hear this story?

mike[piston eater] 11-22-2010 12:35 AM

i doubt they will make anything for the s2 they were interested in making an exhaust for the 09 they made a prototype on a local members car but decided to not go into production cause there was no horsepower gains, and when we were talking to their rep they really were not looking into forced induction for the series 2 because of all the trouble they ended up having with thier series 1 and mazda's reflashes

MazdaManiac 11-22-2010 12:56 AM


Originally Posted by mike[piston eater] (Post 3792229)
because of all the trouble they ended up having with thier series 1 and mazda's reflashes

GReddy never did "reflashes".

mike[piston eater] 11-22-2010 01:11 AM


Originally Posted by MazdaManiac (Post 3792234)
GReddy never did "reflashes".

no i mean mazdas

olddragger 11-26-2010 07:39 AM

check out the Pettit owners thread. Moon is installing a supercharger on the s2 model.
OD

pdxhak 11-26-2010 09:44 AM

2 Attachment(s)
Wonder what this car used for tuning?

Attachment 250872

Attachment 250873

9krpmrx8 11-26-2010 11:52 AM

^ Sick wit it.

olddragger 11-26-2010 04:07 PM

standalone
OD

amdhunter 12-02-2010 10:30 PM


Originally Posted by Rufledt (Post 3787062)
I would be very interested in this kit, but not immediately. As long as I have a warranty and my only other vehical is nearing the end of it's reliable life, I'm not gonna do anything to my car that would void my warranty. In a few years, though, I'm in. They said no immediate plans, but hopefully they have eventual plans. I'm no market expert but they would probobly get better sales after some S2's run out of warranty anyway.

Same here. I'll be ready in about 2 more years.

SlickRick51586 12-03-2010 10:18 AM

It all depends on how long the series II RX8 remains in production imo.

From what I've read, everyone here seem to have something against piggyback, was the emanage that unreliable for the Series I? I know plenty of people that run emanage fine (on piston motors mind you).

If in 2012 they dump the RX8 for a sucessor, or change the PCM. I really can't see performance companies spending the money to crack the pcm.

We might have to do it the hard way and crack it ourselves.

If the emanage can be reliable with a wideband attached, I don't see why we shouldn't try to run it in the interm.

Fisher 12-18-2010 12:25 PM

Does anyone have a side by side wiring difference with the S1 and the s2 I have a Emanage and i am willing to try to get it working .... on a non turbo .

and you might ask why a non turbo i belive it is the best way to start toying with tuning with out having to much in the way / complications.

it would be great if some could help with this info with out getting to much flak :)

SlickRick51586 12-20-2010 10:39 PM

If you had the service manual for both S1 and S2, that would illustrate the wiring differences. I don't know if you've looked wiring diagrams before...

If anyone has a link to the service manuals, I need them as well.

Fisher 12-28-2010 09:31 AM

I found some wiring diagrams how ever it will be a while till i get to try to install this it is cold out side and no garage. i will update when the warmer weather comes around.

SpencerM1 01-13-2011 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by SlickRick51586 (Post 3805227)
If in 2012 they dump the RX8 for a sucessor, or change the PCM. I really can't see performance companies spending the money to crack the pcm.

My thoughts exactly. I would be really surprised if anyone does it for the S2. There are not a whole lot of them compared to S1. Unless I am wrong about the amount of S2s out there and then the niche with in that number who would consider something like a Cobb unit. Creating a diminishing profit margin for whoever decides to actually do the leg work and crack it. I hope they will but I will not be surprised if they did.
:Eyecrazy:

c_ls 01-17-2011 07:14 PM

I added a poll. (something I should have done a long time ago) The email stated if there was enough interest they would entertain the idea of developing one.

Where would one start if he wished to crack the PCM himself?

1talysf1nest 03-02-2011 04:28 PM

maybe if they make the kit and a tune more people would get an s2......

c_ls 03-02-2011 11:25 PM

Thank you for voting. I have sent this thread address to GReddy. It would be great if we can get more Series II owners to vote. I consider the amount of people decent since people only seem to come to this forum by accident. I see more S2 owners posting in the S1 forums haha.

1talysf1nest 03-03-2011 06:59 AM


Originally Posted by c_ls (Post 3900469)
Thank you for voting. I have sent this thread address to GReddy. It would be great if we can get more Series II owners to vote. I consider the amount of people decent since people only seem to come to this forum by accident. I see more S2 owners posting in the S1 forums haha.


sweet deal! hopefully you'll hear from them soon. :fingersx: If anything they should make a more improved version of the s1 kit especially the emanage b/c I hear from many that its not the best thing out there. They should post a what-if thread for if they actually produce a turbo kit for the s2's. Maybe people would thinks its even more legit hearing from the actual company....COME ON GREDDY GET WITH IT!!!! :D::D::D:

Rufledt 03-04-2011 12:12 AM

Voted, I'm interested

Blacknightz 02-23-2012 12:59 AM


Originally Posted by pdxhak (Post 3797179)




Just chanced upon this thread after a long day at work...


This car uses Haltech for tuning...



So any news on the Turbo kit?

TeamRX8 02-25-2012 07:37 PM

sucking in 200+ degF engine bay air is always a nice upgrade feature ...

paimon.soror 02-25-2012 10:19 PM

Just me or does it look like there is something other than washer fluidinn that reservoir,

SpencerM1 02-26-2012 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by Rufledt (Post 3792184)
I know this is about the greddy turbo kit, but if Greddy is watching, maybe they could just come out with ANY way of tuning the S2, and they would have a monopoly on that product. The Esmeril guy said their turbo kit bolts right up to a S2 (just with no way to tune it), so Greddy may not even have to engineer a new turbo kit, just figure out the tuning problem and package that with the existing kit. Even apart from the turbo, the tuning stuff would be desired by all of the somewhat few people out there with a newer Rx8 they are looking to tune. Still probobly not enough to make a profit just yet, but it sure would be nice.

and when are we gonna hear this story?


Agreed. I'd even expect to pay a little more to cost shift a little off the r&d expense. A MM tuned Cobb for an S1 is sub $1000, yes? Something with a little user interface and presto.

If we could lock a Cobb engineer and a Greedy rep in a boardroom w/ a espresso maker and a few good ideas.

SpencerM1 02-26-2012 12:17 PM

I will be at Harris Hill at the end of the month to a Roger Beasley Mazda event. The Cobb rep for Mazda will be there and I will make sure to point him to these threads, again.

c_ls 02-26-2012 04:54 PM

It has been a year and no response from GReddy. With the discontinuation of the RX8 I think we can assume that there is going to be no product.

I would like to be wrong about that though.

ASH8 02-27-2012 04:02 AM

That air intake is WRONG!

xexok 02-27-2012 05:40 AM


Originally Posted by SpencerM1 (Post 4198492)
I will be at Harris Hill at the end of the month to a Roger Beasley Mazda event. The Cobb rep for Mazda will be there and I will make sure to point him to these threads, again.

There is probably a reason cobb gave away(or sold, whatever happened.. not sure) the rights to distribute cobb tuners for series 1 rx8s. Perhaps cobb saw that there was not enough money to be made? If they felt that way about the series 1, the series 2 is going to be even worse. Maybe I am misunderstanding the situation with that, if so enlighten me.

I would love to have the cobb for my car, I would buy it before any other mod. If that happens(it wont) I just wish there were other GOOD options, rather than the same person tuning all the s1's via cobb. I mean right now there is basically only one tuner people go with for their s1's, right? Unless they do it themselves. That would be the only thing holding me back from a purchase if it were even available.

Blacknightz 02-27-2012 06:07 AM


Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 4198170)
sucking in 200+ degF engine bay air is always a nice upgrade feature ...



My thoughts exactly... but the car is still running strong up to this day... 300+whp, 13b engine... 6at...


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