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R3Fix 04-06-2011 10:31 AM

Underdrive Pulley
 
Anyone try the Agency Power pulley? Is it even compatible with the s2?

RX8pwnage 04-06-2011 12:17 PM

Yes.

R3Fix 04-06-2011 02:56 PM

Good results from them? Any negative side effects?

alnielsen 04-06-2011 02:58 PM

The "upgrade" isn't worth the money.

RX8pwnage 04-06-2011 11:31 PM

Its a couple HP at best. I threw it on cos its a fast install and a pretty blue color. You will notice the tach getting to 9k a bit faster too. If money is important to you don't bother with it though.

no-piston 04-06-2011 11:57 PM

greedy and srmotorsport pulley kit can fit also ?

bse50 04-07-2011 02:32 AM


Originally Posted by RX8pwnage (Post 3937433)
Its a couple HP at best. I threw it on cos its a fast install and a pretty blue color. You will notice the tach getting to 9k a bit faster too. If money is important to you don't bother with it though.

Try the run to 9000rpms under load (in gear) and... see that there is no difference :(
Pulleys are a waste of money for most... they are great if you remove tha a\c though :squint:

RX8pwnage 04-07-2011 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by no-piston (Post 3937467)
greedy and srmotorsport pulley kit can fit also ?

The only pulley difference from S1 to S2 is the water pulley.

wcs 04-07-2011 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by bse50 (Post 3937541)
Try the run to 9000rpms under load (in gear) and... see that there is no difference :(
Pulleys are a waste of money for most... they are great if you remove tha a\c though :squint:

werd

Mine from SRMotorSports ...look very pretty .... pfffff yeah can I have my 600 bones back ... my biggest fail mod

RMXG8 06-13-2011 01:39 AM

i tried to install the ap pulley on my 09 the hole for the bolts didnt line up.anyone have this problem?

RX8pwnage 06-13-2011 02:46 AM

Nope. You sure you reecieved an rx8 pulley and not something else?

RMXG8 06-13-2011 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by RX8pwnage (Post 4003898)
Nope. You sure you reecieved an rx8 pulley and not something else?

its the right one cause this was on my old rx8. the holes wouldnt line up.

RX8pwnage 06-14-2011 02:48 AM

Odd...I have one on my R3. No issues.

RMXG8 06-14-2011 09:15 AM

one thing i did notice is that the 09 stock pulley is different from my 05 the my 09 stock pulley is bigger .

bcdjudo7 06-25-2011 02:12 AM


Originally Posted by RMXG8 (Post 4003871)
i tried to install the ap pulley on my 09 the hole for the bolts didnt line up.anyone have this problem?

I had the same exact issue , Greddy pully's didn't work on mine either.

RMXG8 06-26-2011 04:43 AM


Originally Posted by bcdjudo7 (Post 4014197)
I had the same exact issue , Greddy pully's didn't work on mine either.

well i made a phone call to racingbeat they told me the s1 and s2 crank pulleys are different and that a aftermarket pulley made for s1 would not fit on a s2. i'd like to know how RX8pwnage installed it did you have to modify it?

comebackqid 12-03-2011 09:33 PM

I know this is old but I was looking to get some SRmotorsports pulleys because of the power claims then I read this thread, and looked at the upgrades again... yea I'm just going to buy a BHR ignition upgrade for Christmas instead.
THX. for the heads up fellas.

wcs 12-03-2011 11:06 PM

Don't do it ... don't
Pulleys are NOT worth it for power gains.

I have a set and they look great ... did nothing ...but look great. (I have dyno ... with other mods as well ... net effect ... crap)
Oh I bought the SR Pulleys

TeamRX8 12-05-2011 04:11 PM

and people give me crap for spending $1k on a cat converter that flows like a 3" open pipe ...

bse50 12-05-2011 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 4138358)
and people give me crap for spending $1k on a cat converter that flows like a 3" open pipe ...

That's because you're not smart spending $1k for something that throws less flames than a 200$ race pipe! Plus it's underneath the car so no bragging rights that add hp...
$1k of stickers are the way to go, didn't you know?:hahano:

TeamRX8 12-08-2011 12:50 PM

Stickers? What are those ....

https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...&postcount=653



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bse50 12-08-2011 01:00 PM

I see no shocker sticker or JDM style ones, no race stripes either or flames. They are the only stickers that add power and that a racer should use. Don't you know?

TeamRX8 12-08-2011 01:11 PM

That explains a few things I guess :lol:

SpencerM1 12-13-2011 10:33 PM

The average sticker's weight doesn't justify the HP increase. Lets not forget the difference between vinyl and plastic. Don't get me started...

:P

cfm251 12-13-2011 10:33 PM

for engine bay bling purposes heres a cheaper alternative lol
http://www.rotaryfx.com/ProductDetai...ctCode=PER1127
idk if itll work with S2 though

SpencerM1 12-14-2011 09:21 AM

Based on my inexperienced opinion, I would not use those.

MinHoSII 02-13-2012 06:17 PM

Just wanted to confirm the AP Pulley DOES fit on the s2 with no issues. The way it's machined if the holes aren't lining up, you just have to 180 it and everything lines up as it should. I'll also agree with what has already been mentioned, there's no noticeable gain or difference from stock.

RMXG8 02-13-2012 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by MinHoSII (Post 4188482)
Just wanted to confirm the AP Pulley DOES fit on the s2 with no issues. The way it's machined if the holes aren't lining up, you just have to 180 it and everything lines up as it should. I'll also agree with what has already been mentioned, there's no noticeable gain or difference from stock.

Now to deal with my check engine light for cylinder 2 misfire :sad:

I tried all that still had no luck...i end up just selling my pulley.

ASH8 02-14-2012 03:21 AM

Waste of $$$'s as usual...

bcdjudo7 02-14-2012 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by MinHoSII (Post 4188482)
Just wanted to confirm the AP Pulley DOES fit on the s2 with no issues. The way it's machined if the holes aren't lining up, you just have to 180 it and everything lines up as it should. I'll also agree with what has already been mentioned, there's no noticeable gain or difference from stock.


Not sure why yours fit bro, but we turned mine every way imagineable and no way that thing was going on my car .... so I guess there's a possiblility your car received the s1 version from the factory for the pulleys .... which i've heard happens sometimes .... but wasn't anyway they were fitting on mine.

From what i've read, pretty much a complete waste other than appearance anyway.

MinHoSII 02-15-2012 12:14 AM


Originally Posted by bcdjudo7 (Post 4188846)
Not sure why yours fit bro, but we turned mine every way imagineable and no way that thing was going on my car .... so I guess there's a possiblility your car received the s1 version from the factory for the pulleys .... which i've heard happens sometimes .... but wasn't anyway they were fitting on mine.

From what i've read, pretty much a complete waste other than appearance anyway.

Hmm yeah not sure, to be honest it barely ranks as an appearance mod you can hardly see it lol.

Bweeds 11-23-2013 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by RMXG8 (Post 4003871)
i tried to install the ap pulley on my 09 the hole for the bolts didnt line up.anyone have this problem?

flip it 180 degrees. it only goes on one way, so i bet you had it upside down

Blue2010R3 04-23-2018 05:45 PM

Mine worked on an S2, but there was a CEL for the first 50 miles or so.

NotAPreppie 04-24-2018 08:25 AM

A CEL from a pulley? What was the code?

UnknownJinX 04-28-2018 12:14 AM

Yeah, better check it out.

The only pulley that's safe to underdrive is the AC pulley, but then you may as well just remove the AC altogether.

Brettus 04-28-2018 12:36 AM


Originally Posted by UnknownJinX (Post 4859053)
Yeah, better check it out.

The only pulley that's safe to underdrive is the AC pulley, but then you may as well just remove the AC altogether.

wrong again

UnknownJinX 04-28-2018 01:06 AM

Mind to elaborate?

Most of the posts before have said it's not worth it, and the explanation from RIWWP makes sense.


Pulleys
Don't. You might ask "why?", so here is an explanation:

There are 2 "benefit" points to changing to aftermarket pulleys.
The 1st "benefit" is a reduction in the weight of the pulley. This is a similar concept to going with a lightweight flywheel to assist with a more responsive engine. The problem is, the weight you are saving is very very very small, and it's close to the center of rotation, so there is very little gain by reducing it. It takes roughly 10lbs of weight saved at inch from the center of rotation to equal the interia savings of 1lb of weight saved at 10 inches from the center of rotation. Lightweight flywheels are still rather large in diameter (almost larger than the core engine block), and much of the weight stripped is near the outside of the flywheel. Pulleys have only a few inches and at most maybe a pound, and most of the weight to remove is near the center. It just isn't going to give noticeable gains for the price.
The 2nd "benefit" is to underdrive one or more accessories. The problem with this is that under driving your alternator is bad for your electronics and battery, and underdriving your water pump can have significant penalties to your ability to keep the engine cool. And all it takes is 1 overheating, or even undetected localized hot spotting, and your housings can warp and your engine is done. Underdriving your A/C is without penalty, but removing the AC system completely would accomplish the same AC effectiveness as underdriving it, and leave your car lighter and without the AC compressor drag at all, so it's the better choice (and cheaper).

Brettus 04-28-2018 02:20 AM


Originally Posted by UnknownJinX (Post 4859055)
Mind to elaborate?

Most of the posts before have said it's not worth it, and the explanation from RIWWP makes sense.

Your assumption that water cooling will suffer is wrong . In fact it is known amongst those who track the 8 that the stock pump gearing can lead to water pump cavitation at redline . A small underdrive is beneficial except for those that sit in traffic at idle a lot.
Same for the alternator. Underdrive only a negative for those that either sit in traffic a lot or run a large electrical load.

The overall benefit is indeed small however. FWIW i don't run one with a turbo setup .... but I don't rev to 9000 either .

Herksr3 07-14-2018 11:00 AM

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