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Smoke45 02-18-2016 08:34 PM

Mine was at home waiting for me after work. Took about 30 min to drop it in. Love it so far! Very tight and precise. Compliments my lightweight flywheel quite well. Thanks a ton, Richard!

I'll try to get some spare time Sunday and do a DIY with pictures. Unless someone beats me to it.

Thanks to everyone in the group buy as well! We've been waiting a long time for this and now it is finally time to enjoy shifting bliss!

pcs 02-19-2016 09:34 AM

I don't even know if a DIY is needed - it's literally pull the old one out and bolt the new one in...

Richard Paul 02-20-2016 02:03 PM

Getting good feedback.
As to the DIY I was thinking that if you just leave out the part about the spacer plate
then this one is the same. I'm saying that without going and looking at the old DIY.
I'll do that soon.

Mbrace 02-20-2016 07:03 PM

Just tried to install mine. Not sure what the problem is, but won't go into 1st or 2nd

Richard Paul 02-20-2016 07:35 PM

I can't think of how that can be so let's start over.
Pull it back out and look for something out of place.
Make sure the white boot sleve has not fallen down past the dowel pin.
Make sure the lower bushing is square when it goes into the trans.
Rotate the upper plastic part so the grooves go over the pins.
Screw the 3 bolts down.
Before putting the boots on look at the stick while trying all gears.
That's all there is to it.
You might try looking up the S2 DIY and ignore everything that has to do with the spacer, espsially the part about removing the trans top. You don;t want to do that. Write back or if you still have trouble call my cell phone: 818 974 7300
Email me direct at rap@axialflow.com

0913B 02-22-2016 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by Richard Paul (Post 4746192)
I can't think of how that can be so let's start over.
Pull it back out and look for something out of place.
Make sure the white boot sleve has not fallen down past the dowel pin.
Make sure the lower bushing is square when it goes into the trans.
Rotate the upper plastic part so the grooves go over the pins.
Screw the 3 bolts down.
Before putting the boots on look at the stick while trying all gears.
That's all there is to it.
You might try looking up the S2 DIY and ignore everything that has to do with the spacer, espsially the part about removing the trans top. You don;t want to do that. Write back or if you still have trouble call my cell phone: 818 974 7300
Email me direct at rap@axialflow.com

had the same "issue" as well, on the oem shifter i would hold it all the way to the left and go up or down for 1st or 2nd gear, if i do that with the short shifter it hits a wall, it will however go into 1st or 2nd about 2mm to the left of 3rd gear. 1st and 2nd are much closer to 3rd and 4th meaning it feels like less of a gap between them horizontally, other than that the shifting felt solid and had that rifle bolt click.

Richard Paul 02-24-2016 12:17 PM

When you shorten the trow it shortens it in all directions.
There is no reason to rely on the shift gate for gear selection.
What do yo do for 3 and 4?
You'll get used to it.

0913B 02-24-2016 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by Richard Paul (Post 4746767)
When you shorten the trow it shortens it in all directions.
There is no reason to rely on the shift gate for gear selection.
What do yo do for 3 and 4?
You'll get used to it.

Ahh ok that makes sense,ya it was a very short learning curve I'm already used to it ,3rd and 4th are right where they've always been.

Richard Paul 03-08-2016 04:24 PM

Good and bad news.
Some guys have reported noise or vibration.
We have found a temporary fix.
What we think has happened is the upper bearing (funnel looking part)
isn't putting enough pressure on the pivot. It's only about .005 inch.
What we've tried is two small pieces of tape on the part, one each side of the groove.
thus putting more pressure on the sphere.
Try it and let me know.
If this proves to be a fix then we will make new parts for everyone.

Jeanator 03-09-2016 01:38 PM

I can attest to the noise / vibration issue at high rpm / strong acceleration.

I think mine is amplified by the AutoExe knob that resonates. I am glad this is being worked on, not sure where to put the tape based on the description.

If anyone is able to fix this please post details.

8CHMan 03-14-2016 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by Richard Paul (Post 4749237)
Good and bad news.
Some guys have reported noise or vibration.
We have found a temporary fix.
What we think has happened is the upper bearing (funnel looking part)
isn't putting enough pressure on the pivot. It's only about .005 inch.
What we've tried is two small pieces of tape on the part, one each side of the groove.
thus putting more pressure on the sphere.
Try it and let me know.
If this proves to be a fix then we will make new parts for everyone.

Looking at the the upper bearing (white plastic funnel part) do I apply the small pieces of tape to the inside or outside? Thanks!

Richard Paul 03-14-2016 04:45 PM

The idea of this trick is to take up the clearance between the sphere
and the race. Use 2 pieces of tape one on each side of the notch running up and down. Thus putting tape between the ball and the outer race.
All it seems to take is .005 and .010 of an inch.
It will wear out but it shows where the noise is coming from.
I've had 2 guys give me feedback on this and it works.
If the rest of the feedback is good then I will make some new parts that are that much longer.
I will send all people who got S2.2 shifters the replacement part.
All shifters made from then on will have the improvement.
It will not be for a few weeks as I'm still making S1 and S2000 units.
I lost a week when someone crashed the custom boring bar into the chuck.
He's now gone!

8CHMan 03-20-2016 02:31 PM

I can also attest to the vibration from about 2,000 rpm and up. Installed the shifter without the tape. Going to re-install the stock shifter until there is a fix. Thanks in advance.

8CHMan 04-18-2016 08:57 AM

RP,

Played around with different kinds of tape, different geometries (2 strips, 4 strips, etc.) over the weekend.

No matter what I tried, I still get a 'transmission noise' resonating through the shifter which only gets louder and more noticeable the more I shift.

I've gone back to stock again. Any word on when we should expect the new part(s)? Thanks in advance.

Richard Paul 04-18-2016 03:12 PM

We are making Honda S2000 right now.
After that we will start on another batch of S2.2.
Better figure 3 or 4 weeks before they are ready.

Richard Paul 04-23-2016 12:10 PM

As of right now there are 8 units unspoken for in the new batch.
Hopefully they will not scrap any this time. So if your going to order one you should do so soon.
We are also making upgrade parts for all the first 2.2 units sold.
These will be sent to owners direct or to the dealer who handled the sale.
Thank you guys,
Richard

Richard Paul 04-25-2016 11:22 AM

Johnathan Rice, I got your email but can't seem to get back to you.
Something does not work.
To answer your question: Send $310 plus $12 shipping to our Paypal account:
rap@axialflow.com

Jeanator 05-05-2016 08:33 AM

Any update on the fixes for the first 2.2 units? Have these been made or sent yet
Thanks!

sinkas 05-09-2016 07:59 PM

Hi
I would also like to hear of satisfied indtalls
Also how much of a reduction in throw is there?

Smoke45 05-24-2016 02:45 PM

Sinkas,

The website states it reduces the throw by 29%. It's definitely noticeable and feels great. When I first installed it I spent every free minute behind the wheel. Felt great moving through the gears. Very precise and solid. My friends, who don't know much about cars, kept saying my car had more power after the install. So the quicker shifting does make a noticeable difference when you're accelerating. My 0 to 60 time did improve. The shifter compliments my BHR flywheel quite nicely as well. The lighter flywheel could be a little tricky with the stock shifter, but the quicker throw let's you get the gear before the RPMs drop too much. If you have a lightweight flywheel or plan to get one I'd snag one of these while you can. I had to wait over a year to get one of these shifters.

The only downside is my bushing wore out super fast. I'm guessing it's due to the rattle RP mentioned. I had to switch back to the stock shifter it got so bad. Hoping the fix RP is working on will take care of this issue.

All in all, I highly recommend this shifter. You will love how it feels, especially with a lighter flywheel. Going back to the stock shifter was hard to do after playing with this one.

Richard Paul 05-25-2016 11:58 AM

Parts are starting to come off the machines now.
We should be ready to ship 2.2 units next week.
At that time we will ship out the new parts for all the other ones out there.
There will be two new parts, the upper bearing piece and a longer lower bushing.
Both can be owner installed.

For those wanting to buy one they are now up on the website.
They are still called s2.2 but since we are upgrading all the first batch there is no reason to change the number.

Richard Paul 06-02-2016 10:34 AM

Parts will be ready to ship on Monday.
If you bought your unit from a dealer contact us directly for service. There is no reason to bother the dealer. If we did it that way I'd have to send out parts that may just sit.
All the back orders will go out too.
There should be 7 left over for sale. That is if the yield is 100%

Then we will be running S1 units.

Mbrace 06-12-2016 05:36 PM

Anyone receive the fixed parts yet?

Jeanator 06-12-2016 07:27 PM

Nop.

Richard Paul 06-15-2016 01:02 PM

Parts are going out today to all people who bought direct.
If you bought from a dealer you will need to contact us and give your name and address.

Also new batch of S2.2 shifters are now in stock ready to ship.
We will now start a run of S1 units.

pcs 06-17-2016 09:38 AM

Rich - emailed you a few times about the replacement pin to get rid of the rattle, not sure if you received my emails. Can you get one of those out to me? Let me know if I need to email you separately again.

PCS

Richard Paul 06-17-2016 11:16 AM

All the ones I had names for are mailed out.
Give me your zip and I'll tell you.

pcs 06-17-2016 01:01 PM

91006 - I was the one who came out for the test fit in the blue rx8

Richard Paul 06-17-2016 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by pcs (Post 4766537)
91006 - I was the one who came out for the test fit in the blue rx8



I still need a name and address to ship to.
I tried putting PCS on the package but the PO wouldn't take it.
They want an address. :shocking:

Jeanator 06-17-2016 06:47 PM

Received parts today


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...8990559483.jpg

Will try to install and report back tomorrow

Richard Paul 06-20-2016 03:33 PM

ATT. All the S2.2 shifters mailed out last week have to come back.
There was a mistake in the program and the shoulder is to high to allow reverse.
If you got one don't install it just turn it around.
Shit happens

Richard Paul 06-26-2016 06:17 PM

I need another test car, pcs can't make it out here.
We can't ship anymore shifters until we try one out.
email rap@axialflow.com

8CHMan 06-28-2016 10:08 AM

RP,

Does that mean that we shouldn't bother installing the recently shipped replacement parts? Or are those OK?

Please advise, thanks!

Richard Paul 06-28-2016 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by 8CHMan (Post 4768386)
RP,

Does that mean that we shouldn't bother installing the recently shipped replacement parts? Or are those OK?

Please advise, thanks!



Go ahead and use them. The problem we are having right now is with thhe currant batch. Here we had a program problem.
I'm still trying to get a test car for this.

tla88 07-12-2016 06:52 PM

Any update? I ordered mine in May.

Richard Paul 07-12-2016 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by tla88 (Post 4770757)
Any update? I ordered mine in May.


You should have it. But your forum name dosn't tell me who you are.
Send me an email to: rap@axialflow.com

tla88 07-16-2016 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by Richard Paul (Post 4770758)
You should have it. But your forum name dosn't tell me who you are.
Send me an email to: rap@axialflow.com



Got mine today, my zip is 11572. I'm assuming this is a 2.2. Did not receive any instructions or dowel, but will attempt install from Paimons website.

Thanks,

-FG

Richard Paul 07-16-2016 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by tla88 (Post 4771457)
Got mine today, my zip is 11572. I'm assuming this is a 2.2. Did not receive any instructions or dowel, but will attempt install from Paimons website.

Thanks,

-FG



You do not need dowels or spacer plate with the S2.2 it's a drop in just like S1 was.

tla88 07-20-2016 04:24 PM

I just installed the shifter and my first impression was that sliding into first gear, in other words front left corner is not so easy. I kind of have to go a little to the right to find first. Did I do something wrong? The pros so far are that the shifts from second to third are much more smoother. The movement of the shifter is also very rigid.

Richard Paul 07-20-2016 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by tla88 (Post 4772329)
I just installed the shifter and my first impression was that sliding into first gear, in other words front left corner is not so easy. I kind of have to go a little to the right to find first. Did I do something wrong? The pros so far are that the shifts from second to third are much more smoother. The movement of the shifter is also very rigid.



I think you'll get used to that, to the point of not noticing it. It's just that the throw is shorter sideways also and it doesn't hit the side wall.
I do need to ask you if the reverse lock out is working.
We had trouble with one unit and I want to know if it's just that one.
Could you email me direct at: rap@axialflow.com

RAP

Richard Paul 08-06-2016 06:00 PM

I hope I got all the orders filled.
That done then there are 2 left on the shelf.
S1's are going out and there are some left over but I don't know haw many yet.

Thanks to all of you,
Richard

Richard Paul 08-15-2016 11:23 AM

We solved the lockout problem. Which also made the shift into first easier.
Now there is only one left.

USAF_AV8R 08-21-2016 02:58 PM

hey Richard, I sent you a pm on the 17th. Checking to see if you still have the one or not.

Richard Paul 08-21-2016 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by USAF_AV8R (Post 4777284)
hey Richard, I sent you a pm on the 17th. Checking to see if you still have the one or not.



Just checked and yes it's still here.

USAF_AV8R 08-21-2016 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by Richard Paul (Post 4777289)



Just checked and yes it's still here.

thanks! I'll send payment once you confirm if you want me to send directly through PayPal or your website. Would you be able to ship tomorrow? Ship date will determine which shipping address I'll put down.

Richard Paul 08-21-2016 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by USAF_AV8R (Post 4777293)
thanks! I'll send payment once you confirm if you want me to send directly through PayPal or your website. Would you be able to ship tomorrow? Ship date will determine which shipping address I'll put down.


Pay however you like. If you buy now it will go out tomorrow at noon. Via Priority Mail which takes 2-3 days. If you're near a major city it will take 2 otherwise 3.
RAP

Rockinjaz 09-10-2016 08:04 AM

Replacement parts ??????
 
Hi Richard, I've sent you several emails regarding the replacement parts from the first batch of shifters sent out. I haven't received any updated parts or correspondence from you either. Can you tell me if you're getting my emails. Regards
Jared

USAF_AV8R 09-10-2016 10:49 PM

Richard, I believe I purchased the last one from the most recent batch. I'm not so certain mine had the new parts mentioned in page 9 since the vibration is quite audible above 2k RPM. I'll be local to you in 1.5 weeks. Are you free the week of the 18th for me to stop by?

Richard Paul 09-17-2016 01:22 PM

I've got a new part designed for the upper bearing. It will not be ready for about two weeks. It will be free to anyone who is having a problem.
Hopefully it will work that is.

Richard Paul 09-17-2016 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by USAF_AV8R (Post 4780955)
Richard, I believe I purchased the last one from the most recent batch. I'm not so certain mine had the new parts mentioned in page 9 since the vibration is quite audible above 2k RPM. I'll be local to you in 1.5 weeks. Are you free the week of the 18th for me to stop by?

It never hurts to have another car to try things out on. Juat call first.


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