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BJP 03-12-2014 07:10 PM

Tein Street Basics or Megan Racing EZ street coilovers?
 
Both of these coilover kits are similarly priced, around the $600-700 range. I just am curious if one kit is "made a little bit better" than the other. My car may never see a track so damper adjustability doesn't really concern me. I just want a lowered stance with increased handling without sacrificing ride comfort (I know you give and take a little).


Thanks for your input!

tonik 03-13-2014 02:00 PM

Ride comfort? Did u check the spring rate and compare it to oem?

9krpmrx8 03-13-2014 02:28 PM

Tein Basis or Basics? Two different ones. But yeah the Megans are absolute crap, the Teins are entry level (both the Basis and Basics) but they are at least from a reputable company who makes their own product.

tylerdurden 03-13-2014 06:25 PM

Tein will almost certainly be made better. Not a big fan of Tein since I had Flex's on my Miata though. Rode pretty awful.

BJP 03-13-2014 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 4579328)
Tein Basis or Basics? Two different ones. But yeah the Megans are absolute crap, the Teins are entry level (both the Basis and Basics) but they are at least from a reputable company who makes their own product.

Sorry, I meant Street Basis. I was going to go with Tein H Tech springs on stock shocks but I have read more negative reports than positive. So I was thinking S techs with Koni shocks but then I checked price and it was $100-200 more than the Tein Street Basis. This way everything is matched.

RXeligion 03-13-2014 08:44 PM

There isn't much info on this site about the Street Basis coilovers yet. I've been watching for them since I'm about due for shocks. I'm not going to go changing settings once I get them installed, so the Street Basis (with the low price point) seems to compete pretty well with the S-tech/Koni Yellow set-up I had been considering. I'm still not sure which will be better for me, but Megan gets put on blast every single time they come up on this site, so I advise avoiding those.

*Just my observations - may be worth what you paid for them.*

BJP 03-13-2014 09:18 PM

Okay, I will stay away from Megans.

9krpmrx8 03-13-2014 10:44 PM

We have a local member (cornholio135) and he has the Basis and loves them. They are well made and ride well. Would you be just as happy with the Megans? If you don't track, Autox, or plan on keeping the car for more than a couple then yes you probably would be. But Cornholio owns two RX-8's and he had a 2004 for many years before his 06' Shinka and plans on keeping them a long time so he went with the more reputable brand. But he also knows not to expect the world of sub $700.00 coilovers.

The fact that the Basis don't have adjustments for compression or rebound doesn't mean anything since the adjustments on any coilover set under $1500.00 don't do anything beneficial anyway since they were not built with any sort of handling R&D to back them up. That feature is merely a marketing gimmick and that is it.

RXeligion 03-14-2014 12:41 AM

Would you say that the same is true of attainable shock aborbers? Is S-techs over Koni Yellows vs. Street Basis the very definition of a crap shoot?

WreakLoosE 03-14-2014 12:27 PM

I have the Megan Racing I got them Unused at a good price so I gave them a try.. I like em.. it's that simple.. they offer different spring rates too. i changed them with the 10k front and 8k rear. (comes with 8k front and 6k rear) to me rear was a little soft. But they always handled fine. My Old RX8 had Tein Basis coil overs on it. I liked those as well. Honestly between the two they are about the same.. Just really depends on how you set your car up with them i guess. Ive had the Megans now for 2 years and the Tein for 2 years.. Both with no issues Honestly I like them about the same..

9krpmrx8 03-14-2014 01:24 PM

The Tein Basis just came out I thought. And changing springs rates without having the shocks re-valved is pretty much pointless unless you are just trying to go stiffer only to avoid rubbing. But, many could care less about actual benefits, only what they feel in their butt dyno.

But you know what they about opinions.

9krpmrx8 03-14-2014 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by RXeligion (Post 4579530)
Would you say that the same is true of attainable shock aborbers? Is S-techs over Koni Yellows vs. Street Basis the very definition of a crap shoot?

The shocks available for the RX-8 from name brand companies (Bilsteins, KYB's, Tokico D Specs, Koni Yellows) all have at least some R&D into them, especially since Tokico and Bilstein make OEM shocks for the RX-8. So paired with decent springs, they perform well. I have seen several shock failures with the D Specs and the Koni Yellows though, so personally I don't recommend them to people. But plenty of people love them. I had the KYB's with Tein S techs and it was great IMO for a daily driver with occasional canyon runs. I had the MS spring and shock combo and it was also good on my car but the shocks did fail. I had purchased them used with very low mileage. Both were very close to the OEM setup but with a slight drop.

The Bilstein HD's are factory on both the 40TH AE RX-8 and the R3 (and a uro version too I think, the PZ). I have driven both a 40th and an R3 and I can say that they both handle great. My next set of coilovers will be built off of a set of R3 Bilsteins. We do not know if the valving is any different on the HD's offered from the factory versus the HD's you can purchase online. But I plan to have my setup plotted against another setup that uses off the shelf HD's so we shall see.

WreakLoosE 03-14-2014 03:13 PM

The Street Basis just came out if im correct. That is the upgrade version of the Basic?..I thought it was called the (Sreet baSIC) because it was an upgrade of the basic..haha.. but any how, the new STREET BASIS are the new thing the Basic have been discontinued.. ? So I had the baSIC version.

BJP 03-14-2014 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 4579722)
The shocks available for the RX-8 from name brand companies (Bilsteins, KYB's, Tokico D Specs, Koni Yellows) all have at least some R&D into them, especially since Tokico and Bilstein make OEM shocks for the RX-8. So paired with decent springs, they perform well. I have seen several shock failures with the D Specs and the Koni Yellows though, so personally I don't recommend them to people. But plenty of people love them. I had the KYB's with Tein S techs and it was great IMO for a daily driver with occasional canyon runs. I had the MS spring and shock combo and it was also good on my car but the shocks did fail. I had purchased them used with very low mileage. Both were very close to the OEM setup but with a slight drop.

The Bilstein HD's are factory on both the 40TH AE RX-8 and the R3 (and a uro version too I think, the PZ). I have driven both a 40th and an R3 and I can say that they both handle great. My next set of coilovers will be built off of a set of R3 Bilsteins. We do not know if the valving is any different on the HD's offered from the factory versus the HD's you can purchase online. But I plan to have my setup plotted against another setup that uses off the shelf HD's so we shall see.

Oh, I never considered KYBs...those were the Gas-a-Just shocks? Tein S-Techs with KYB Gas-a-Just is a good price too

9krpmrx8 03-14-2014 11:44 PM

http://www.flickr.com/photos/9krpmrx8/7059697483/

9krpmrx8 03-14-2014 11:46 PM

husband and wife :)

Both of these were on this combo in these pics. The yellow is still on them the black is now lower on Basis.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/9krpmrx8/11167135644/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9krpmrx8/11167083866/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9krpmrx8/11166846073/

Jazzmeson 03-15-2014 12:42 AM


Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 4579870)

I'm considering a similar setup to this soon; only difference is I'll be pairing it with Progress Technology springs only because I already have their sway bars. Might as well match everything... I also found all four KYBs for about $300 shipped which is such a steal.

Story Time:

One of my "friends" told me how it's ghetto for me to go shocks and springs when I can get a cheap set of coil-overs for only $100-$200 more... He brought up the typical ride-height and dampening adjustability argument saying how my car's current height and soft spring-rate isn't safe for track and hard turns, etc. He even told me that a staff who works for Swift springs at the race track told him to avoid shocks and springs when tracking LOL.

:bsmeter:

His car now has a broken axle and bad bearings... I guess his slammed ride-height isn't any safer than my car on stock height. :rollingla

tylerdurden 03-15-2014 01:24 AM


Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 4579722)
The shocks available for the RX-8 from name brand companies (Bilsteins, KYB's, Tokico D Specs, Koni Yellows) all have at least some R&D into them, especially since Tokico and Bilstein make OEM shocks for the RX-8. So paired with decent springs, they perform well. I have seen several shock failures with the D Specs and the Koni Yellows though, so personally I don't recommend them to people. But plenty of people love them. I had the KYB's with Tein S techs and it was great IMO for a daily driver with occasional canyon runs. I had the MS spring and shock combo and it was also good on my car but the shocks did fail. I had purchased them used with very low mileage. Both were very close to the OEM setup but with a slight drop.

The Bilstein HD's are factory on both the 40TH AE RX-8 and the R3 (and a uro version too I think, the PZ). I have driven both a 40th and an R3 and I can say that they both handle great. My next set of coilovers will be built off of a set of R3 Bilsteins. We do not know if the valving is any different on the HD's offered from the factory versus the HD's you can purchase online. But I plan to have my setup plotted against another setup that uses off the shelf HD's so we shall see.

Bilstein's are great when properly valved. I went from Flex's to Fat Cat Motorsports coilovers on my Miata and the difference was incredible. When I swap the suspension on my RX8, it will be for FCM's.

Boeuf 03-15-2014 08:45 AM

I've been thinking about upgrading from my Mazdaspeed coilovers to either FCM or Ohlins DFV. I'm starting to lean towards the Ohlins now because I can get them locally here in Canada cheaper than the FCM and I can get them rebuilt or custom revalved with stiffer springs locally if I ever decide to.
Those FCM's are supposed to be pretty awesome though.

But back on topic, if you're not planning on having the car corner balanced then I would say a set of bilsteins and some springs would be better than $700 coilovers. The shocks are more important than the springs.

EuroTech 03-21-2014 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by Jazzmeson (Post 4579881)
I also found all four KYBs for about $300 shipped which is such a steal.


Link please?

9krpmrx8 03-21-2014 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by tylerdurden (Post 4579887)
Bilstein's are great when properly valved. I went from Flex's to Fat Cat Motorsports coilovers on my Miata and the difference was incredible. When I swap the suspension on my RX8, it will be for FCM's.

Yeah one of our local guys, Hoss-05 has a custom setup from FCM and loves it.


Originally Posted by Boeuf (Post 4579926)
I've been thinking about upgrading from my Mazdaspeed coilovers to either FCM or Ohlins DFV. I'm starting to lean towards the Ohlins now because I can get them locally here in Canada cheaper than the FCM and I can get them rebuilt or custom revalved with stiffer springs locally if I ever decide to.
Those FCM's are supposed to be pretty awesome though.

But back on topic, if you're not planning on having the car corner balanced then I would say a set of bilsteins and some springs would be better than $700 coilovers. The shocks are more important than the springs.


It depends on the Ohlins, the cheaper ones are not anywhere near their higher end stuff for the RX-8. A lot of people just say Ohlins without knowing the difference between what ohlins offers (JDM off the shelf affordable kit versus expensive custom ordered from Europe). The FCM setup is purpose built for your car to your specs.

Boeuf 03-21-2014 11:34 AM

I'm really on the fence. The Ohlins I'm looking at are the Road and Track DFV kit.
A few of the reviews I've read are all very good.
Those FCM are pretty great for the price not to mention that they are custom to me. There's not many reviews on them from RX8 guys but the Miata guys seem to love them. I've watched all of the Suspension Truth videos as well.

zenkifc3 03-21-2014 09:18 PM

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i am rollin on Megan EZ's and i have absolutely no complaints.... my car is 100% daily driver, the hardest thing i do is play on the back roads on the weekends... i have the valving set in the middle range, and it rides better than when i had eibachs and Koni's.... the coilovers look to be nice quality and the ride height can be adjusted as low as you wanna go... but like I said, my car is the grocery getter, so if you plan to abuse it, I would be more inclined to pay the money for something better... but for the everyday I LOVE THEM!!!!

the pics are with 25mm spacers, and the camera is quite old... the car can go probably another 1.5in lower... this is my speed bump height ;)

Jazzmeson 03-23-2014 12:13 AM


Originally Posted by EuroTech
Originally Posted by Jazzmeson ?

I also found all four KYBs for about $300 shipped which is such a steal.

I found all four altogether on PartsGeek and it's free shipping.


Link please?

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Islandboy 02-28-2015 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by zenkifc3 (Post 4582419)
i am rollin on Megan EZ's and i have absolutely no complaints.... my car is 100% daily driver, the hardest thing i do is play on the back roads on the weekends... i have the valving set in the middle range, and it rides better than when i had eibachs and Koni's.... the coilovers look to be nice quality and the ride height can be adjusted as low as you wanna go... but like I said, my car is the grocery getter, so if you plan to abuse it, I would be more inclined to pay the money for something better... but for the everyday I LOVE THEM!!!!

the pics are with 25mm spacers, and the camera is quite old... the car can go probably another 1.5in lower... this is my speed bump height ;)

Is that the 15 adjustments damper ez meagan coilover you have on or the 32 adjustments damper one?


Originally Posted by zenkifc3 (Post 4582419)
i am rollin on Megan EZ's and i have absolutely no complaints.... my car is 100% daily driver, the hardest thing i do is play on the back roads on the weekends... i have the valving set in the middle range, and it rides better than when i had eibachs and Koni's.... the coilovers look to be nice quality and the ride height can be adjusted as low as you wanna go... but like I said, my car is the grocery getter, so if you plan to abuse it, I would be more inclined to pay the money for something better... but for the everyday I LOVE THEM!!!!

the pics are with 25mm spacers, and the camera is quite old... the car can go probably another 1.5in lower... this is my speed bump height ;)

There are two different kinds of ez meagan coilovers one is the 32 adjustments damper and the other one is the 15 adjustments damper which one do you have on you rx8 thanks

Is that the 15 or 32 adjustments damper ez meagan coilover on your rx8? Thanks

[QUOTE=Islandboy;4668182]There are two different kinds of ez meagan coilovers one is the 32 adjustments damper and the other one is the 15 adjustments damper which one do you have on you rx8


The ez meagan coilovers with 15 adjustments damper is that the one you have on your rx8?


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