Sustec Pro S-OC vs BC Racing Coilovers vs Tanabe Sustec Pro 5
 

Hey guys I'm looking into some cheep Coil-overs (cuz I'm feeling cheep right now) :squint:

Whats the word on the Sustec pr s-oc vs the BC racing coilovers & Tanabe Sustec Pro 5?

Sustec Pr
adj +0.25 to -2.25 in / +0.25
Spring rate F 8.0 R 8.0
Price about $800.00

BC Racing
adj ???
F 660 R 550
Price about $1,200.00

I know I know its all crap vs the Variant 3's but I dont have that kind of cash and its over kill for the dd car.

Tanabe Sustec Pro 5
adj -1 in to -2 in/-0.4 in to 2.25 in
F 8.0 R 6.0
Price about $1,200.00

None of the above, get STANCE GR+ same pricerange.

the stance are $1300 shipped from fluid

Oh yea, stance? what you guys got on?

Yeah i'll be ordering the STANCE GR+ within the next month. Definitally the best coilover you can get for the price.

Stance are a Favorite. :)

Orly? lol so Stance over Tanabe Sustec Pro 5? wow. K I'm going to look into them. Wont be buying till next month anyway.
Thanks guys!

Tanabe's suck

I got the Sustec Five, and they are great. you can even get them under a grand if u look hard.

What? why? did you have them? WhiteSnowflake8 said they are good and he has them.

Read the other long thread where the tanabe argument was going on.

+1 for stance.

I dont want speculation. I want advice from owners.
Thanks!

Exactly, i figure if one person out of 100 gets a faulty or "problematic" part. Then it must either a installation failure, or just a 1/100 problem.. Now I am a owner of the Sustec Fives, and have raced a few auto x's and do a lot of spirited driving. Also i installed it my self, along with every mod i own. So far over 2000 miles and no problems. Now lets see a negative comment from an "owner" of this suspension brand. Not something you read off the internet.

I like your attitude :icon_tup:
I am an owner of Stance Gr+ coilovers. Just like WhiteSnowFlake8, installed it myself, along with every other mod. Have over 300 miles and although there was initially a problem, turned out to be my idiocy.
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-wheels-tires-brakes-suspension-55/stance-gr-coilover-loud-thump-rear-166848/
So far so good.
I've tracked on my stock suspension so far and will track with new setup.
So, Dominion- there are two owners of different coilover setup who can give you hands on experience.
you pick- both seem to be good coilovers for the money.

What happened to the special deal you were going to get on the KW's v.3? Just save up for them instead of buying something that your not certain of, and last go for your gut instinct and not the opinions of people on this forum. Each person has their own prefference so make a decision for yourself!! BTW this thread is useless lol

The special deal is still a go if I want to. But that info is privet not for the forums mang.
Also I cant stand my Tanabe springs or drop anymore and want some stiff Coilovers and a low drop. Why dont like the springs? well in the end it fells like they where just soft and droped the car.
I wanted more that just that. So I did a shat load of reading and found out the trick is in the sway bars. Bam! they where right.

I know KWv.3 are the shiznet but I cant wait 8 months of saving for them. I want to start out with a cheep ass set up like $700.00 and up to a little over a thousand bucks.

I have an order in with fluid for the pro fives, the main thing that swayed me was the addition of the TEAS controller. I like buttons and instant ajustability, it apeals to my ADHD and OCD at the same time.

Gilbert if your budget is looking to be around $800, have you looked into doing a simple strut upgrade and or matching struts with a set of springs?

Coilover setups are not going to yield great results unless you take the time to adjust and configure the setup which means a lot of adjustment and also a lot of track/street time. Depending on how inexpensive you go, you might not have dampening adjustability or the setup requires you to adjust the height by increaseing/decreasing the spring load which can upset your handling.

I didn't see any specific information about what your suspension goals were in terms of performance > looks or vice versa. Clearly coilovers will give you a much much lower stance, but remember that lower isn't always better handling.

I've spent over a year working with coilovers on my RX8 so if you have any questions let me know.

Thanks Flashwing i totally agree with you!! Each person should have a specific goal and what they want to do with their car especially suspension mods. BTW Gil did you get permission from the big boss lady and what she wants to do with the car lol ??? Its kinda of pointless giving Gil advise becaue he's going start another thread asking the same questions lol

would you care to let us know who your special connection is for KW's at a good price. didn't you say like $1800?

^Dam did you have a bad day at cooking at work? :rofl:

I had a wonderful day at work!! So tell us where you can get these KW's at a special price!!

Why does he have to? Find your own good deals man. Sometimes we ask and beg people for deals, why would we share after our hard work of getting a discount?? Either way someone was selling a set for that price here on forums.

Whats wrong with asking Dominion a simple question like this? I really doubt Dominion begged or worked hard to get a deal or a discount on the KW's. BTW this question was for Dominion last time i checked your name was WhiteSnowflake8 :):)

Fixed..

And actually, a vender is selling them for less than that..:Eyecrazy:

Thanks Topgear now that wasn't too hard huh WhiteSnowflake8? He didn't even break a sweat and he was being nice and sharing info with us especially on a deal on KW's. C'mon this is a community of RX-8 enthusiast we should help each other out.

Yeah, we sure are all friendly... :squint:
BTW most people that get deals from resources aren't supposed to tell people what prices or how they get them. That's in case you didn't know.

So its like top secret classified type of stuff that special deals can't be disclosed :lol::lol: I gotcha buddy :lol::lol:

^Umm if I get a good deal on a product, and someone ask's me where I got it from, do you not think I will direct them to the supplier? Word of mouth is one of the best ways to sell things...

Yea thats true i woudn't want to get the person that hooks me up in trouble

^No my question was directed at Snowflake. I'm saying that whenever I get a good deal on something, I tell people about it. Most of the venders on this site love when they see something like "I got a great deal on this exhaust from Fluid, BHR, Works Concepts"...etc...

I know you would refer your fellow RX8 owners to the place you got it from. Sorry dude i didn't know you were reffering to Snowflake sorry dude.

Megan Racing Coil-Over Dampers

from the fluid site looks good - whats not to like?

under a grand
plenty of shock adjustability (though not bound-rebound independent)
plenty of height adjustability
camber control

...though spring rates are specified only as "agressive", which probably sounds sort of ominous to someone having to put up with new york roads.


Coming from Sentra Se-R Spec V(03) as my last car the availability of aftermarket parts for rx8 is mindbogling.
I'm counting 16 different coil-over kits for RX* just on fluid site alone!

^The megans are good for a street coilover. They can drop you really low and have 32 different levels of adjustment. But for a track coilover, not so much. That is why STANCE GR+ was recommended. It's a great track coilover for the price. But if DOMINION does not track then he will be very happy with the Megans if he chose to go that way.

Be sure to ask which they suggest for your application and price range. Having that many choices can easily confuse people which is why this thread even exists.

I just want something for the daily driver and every now and then weekend track. No drifting. Just grip.

Megans looking like your top pick then - roads in Vegas from what I remember are pretty good, so 8kg/6kg springs should be very tolerable

From my experience with other cars, the main concern I would have is that some aftermarket coil over systems make a fair amount of noise. My friend got some expensive, quality looking JIC coilovers for his maxima and they were making audiable contract-expand shock sort of noise - not sure how common this is.

I understand that, i also point out good places to shop from. But i never tell them what i payed. You think vendors live off giving great deals to everyone? NO. I keep my mouth quiet so they can make money too. I might of been able to haggle someone down to a good price, so not gonna tell everyone i got it for that. This makes it a fair game for everyone. Remember sometime pay full price, they help you, why not help them?

Dom, if you plan to either track or auto x your car, spend the extra 400 or so for the Sustec Fives. for 1200 they are a great pair. Then you can upgrade later on to the TEAS and have adjust ability inside the car. It helps a LOT, adjusting on the go makes it more comfortable.

So something that will give looks, stock like feel on the street but some added grip on the track. Fair enough!

8kg/6kg from my experience is actually a little on the softer side of coilovers for the RX8 which means you'll probably find a good combo with that setup. The Ksports I use I believe are 10kg/6.5kg so the up front ride is pretty stiff.

All aftermarket suspension systems are going to product some noise whether it's sway bars or struts etc. Usually all the rubber bushings that reduce noise are replaced with metal or urethane for performance. It's all part of the game.

Working for a vendor, I can see the logic in Snow's statement. At the end of the day, a vendor has to make money and that means making a profit. On one hand, you would all be pretty surprised at how little margin there is on certain products so there's very little room to move with price. If you try to haggle a vendor on something like that they won't budge cause otherwise it's a waste of time for no return.

On the other hand, be sure to remember that if a price is too good to be true it probably is. There are exceptions to this, but normally if you see a seriously low price you can expect that to be made up in poor customer service or a lack of product support.

Vendors have enough to do providing support to their own customers that it's almost impossible to help customers who buy stuff from someone else. Remember that you're not always paying for the product but paying for the people, system, and support behind that product. That alone can be worth it's weight in gold.

Yup.
Noise is right. When I go over speed bumps I hear my sway bar move sometimes and the bolts are tight. I check them every 2 weeks.

Thanks WhiteSnowflake8 for the advice on the Tanabes :)

Unless I'm misinformed stock spring rates are are 150 lbs/in front and 113 lbs/in rear.

8kg/6kg = 447lbs/335 lbs

Which means that your "softer side" is THREE TIMES stiffer then stock - which maybe fine for glass racetrack roads but will definitely be hardcore for the street.

Well my friend has some Tein basic and his car is stiff as hell on the streets. I like them a lot too.

I have a new set of Megans in the garage right now. Should go on in a week or so. I've thought long and hard about whether to spend the additional 1-1.2K on a good set over what I spent on the Megans and decided to give the less expensive Megans a try.

8 and 6kg rates make sense to me from the standpoint of moderately stiff springs allow for more absorption of apex curbing and variances in track surfaces that are not like Laguna Seca and most F1 circuits. For the tracks I will be on (Willow Springs and Buttonwillow) I wouldn't want spring rates that are any higher. I was able to discuss the issue of rates with an instructor who had just driven a Z that had the Megans with higher rates. While he easily put in the best time, he was clear about the fact that the rates were excessively high which led to a pretty unsettled chassis as it skipped across the track surface.

I'll report back on what I find. First track day is early March. If they suck I'll be the first to admit it.

^I'll be looking forward to reading your review.

^I'm also set to be at Buttonwillow in April. That will be an even better indication. I ran a 2:14 there the last time I was there so it'll be interesting to see how well the times improve. I don't have a time at Willow Springs to compare to yet but we'll see.

Keep me posted on the Megans. I have a feeling your going to be ok with them :smoker: