Squealing breaks covered my warranty?
 

Anyone think squealing breaks would be covered by the factory warranty? Although they don't squeal all of the time, it is extremely annoying and embarrasing when it does occur. I just want it fixed.

I believe eclps0 on this forum went through the exact same thing. His warranty claim was denied on the grounds that abuse caused the rotors to glaze over, causing the squealing. maybe he could chime in here.

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yeah they denied my warrenty calim on my brakes. Which pisses me off so know i have to shell out like 500.00 on new rotors. I am not getting stock rotors i might get power stop or brembo.

I bitched at my dealer but did not do much. They said i abused the car that is why i warped my rotors. Well yes i drive fast yes i take turns, but still i have never done a road course. i have done 1/4 and autocross. I think i warped my rotors when i was going 80 and some lady cut in front me and slammed on her brakes. So i mashed my brake pedel( Damm this thing stops when u want 2)

Re: Chime chime
 

Not what I want to hear. I haven't done anything that should have caused damage. I drive in the city and there is a lot of stop and go...but a 30 K should be able to withstand such conditions.

If it's only glazing, the dealership should be able to refinish the rotors (several times) before the rotors need to be replaced. If they're warped though, you might be SOL.

I do think it's a warranty-worthy item, as long as the mileage is pretty low on the vehicle.

EHH
 

They said even if they cut them it will come back in a month or so. im not going to pay 100.00 + to get my rotors cut and it come back on me. Sorry i dont like wasting money. I will bitch at my dealr more or take it somewhere else to get the rotors warrentied.

Re: Chime chime
 

How many miles do you have on your car ?

Have you tried going to Mazda USA directly or talk to the service manager ?

I would think you would have to have quite a few high speed stops over and over again in order to warp the rotors which I doubt you did . . .

Might just be debris. 30K might be the pads. the pads are design to squeal when it is time to change them.

Re: Squealing breaks covered my warranty?
 

I would take the car up to about 60mph and then jam on your brakes HARD !!!

Just make sure no one is behind you when you do this and there is a good possibility this will stop the squeaking since this will get rid of the particles of dirt that might be cause the squeaking.

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as of today i have 14,000 + miles on the car. I was complaining to the dealer at around 5,000 miles and they said its fine. Well as soon as i pass 12,000 miles they say its my rotors. Its documented so i try to talk to mazda usa and get it fixed.

Sorry...I should have specified. I meant $30,000 car not 30,000 miles. My car has just a tad over 10,000 miles.

I havetaken my car to 2 differentdealers and complained about the brakes and noneof them have ever done jack about it. One of the service representativesmade up some bullshit andtold me that the the Rx8 brake rotors tend to getmore rust on themthan other cars so thatis what could be causingmine to squeal at randomtimes. Im at 7500 miles. I reallywould like this problemcorrected one day.

Ohand I noticed something elsethat may be a factor. You guys both live in areas w/humid climates like me.

my brakes squeal at only 3800 miles.

My brakes squeal, too. They started squealing around 5000 miles and haven't stopped since. Oh, once and a while they're quiet, but not usually.

I'm scheduled to take my car in Wednesday for the recalls and 10000 mile service. I'm going to mention the brakes to them and will let you guys know what happens....

Re: EHH
 

I'm sorry if you thought i was agreeing with your dealer. Your dealer should try to resurface the rotors and DO IT UNDER WARRANTY.


slightly OT- I had a wobble/squeal in the front end of my 98 honda, and it was the rotors. They were resurfaced, and were fine until it was time for an actual brake job around 60K miles. Sounds like the dealer was just yanking your chain to not have to do the repair. Try to at least force them to resurface the rotors on their dime.

I might print out this thread and take it in to the dealer to show them that others are having the same problems. We'll see what happens

I know a perfect way to temporarily remove the squealing(probably, if not definetly, temporarily). If you think about this it makes sense.
Get your car in a safe area with no cars; now, simply put it in reverse, accelerate, and brake HARD several times in a small area(my dad did this in our porch.). It should remove the squealing. don't believe me? try it. (hey, I might be 14, but my father taught me this, and I was in the car when he did it.)

A bit of squealing now and then is normal, especially for high performance brakes. Squealing is uncommon in most American cars because the Americans use softer pads that are less likely to squeal. Unfortunately, this also means cars with these nice quiet brakes have longer stopping distances than the high friction pads used in the 8.

What I'm referring to (and I'm sure most of us) is not "a bit of sqealing now and then." It's more "a bit of quiet now and then." My brakes squeal most of the time.

They seem to work fine and I don't notice a problem with stopping or any strange vibrations, but I'm going to have them look at it anyway just in case. And it is embarrassing.

Mine have been squeling like a pig for a while. Just over 10000 miles.

My rear left brakes squeaks when light pressure is applied. My dealer tech took it apart and cleaned the contact areas between the calipurs and pads, and it still squeaked. I might try a few rounds of hard braking from high speed as someone here suggested.

I've also tried Squeal Medic by Gunk. It seems to be metal particles in suspension (looks like silver paint), you spray it directly on the rotors, not supposed to affect braking power. It stopped the squeak entirely, but only lasted a couple of days, but ymmv, so it might be worth a try. About 8 bucks at Pep Boys for a little can.

I have the same problem - squeling brakes - and my dealer could not find anything wrong. Was anyone able to get it fixed?

Here's my 2cents...
My '8s brakes don't normally squeal (though I did hear it once or twice when the car was really new), but I've had cars in the past with squeeky brakes.

The problem is generally caused by vibration of the pad against the rotor and caliper. To solve the problem I generally replaced the shims behind the pads, and used the anti-squeal goop that comes with the shims (or you can buy it separately). In addition, making sure the rotors aren't glazed is a good idea too. There are various methods of getting rid of the glaze like having the rotors turned (pretty cheap if you take them to your local Pep Boys), or I've seen people (friends) use a sanding wheel on the end of a drill or Dremel to rub the surface of the rotor. I suppose that this is what the "Hard stop in reverse" idea does too. In this case, you're getting the pads to rub backward on the rotor which will scuff it up more than rubbing forward. Think of the pad like shark skin. Rub it one way it's all smooth. Rub it the other and it feels a bit like fine sandpaper.

Either way, I'm of the belief that squeeky brakes shouldn't be covered by the warranty. A brake failure, yes... Glazed rotors no(since it's a byproduct of hard/improper usage than a defective part).

If your rotors are warped, you're hosed. Buy some new ones and be nice to your brakes. Remember what causes warped rotors. A quick heat up with a quick cool down. If you really heat them up, cool them down gradually, don't just park it. I have heard of cars with poor rotor design in the past... Not enough mass to sustain temp so they're more prone to warping, but I'm not sure that's the case with the '8. In about 6000 miles of spirited driving I've yet to see any problems with my brakes, but we all have different driving styles.

I hope this helps.

Speedsource is using stock brakes in the Grand Am series only replacing the pads, brake lines (with steel braided), and brake fluid. Our rotors are good enough for race applications, I think we're pretty safe from warping.

I'd advise against this....

>Speedsource is using stock brakes in the Grand Am series only >replacing the pads.......................

They mostly like have a brake duct set up for track use. Brake duct is a big help on the track. It maximize the efficiency of the brake system and reduce the chance for a rotor wrap.

at about 6,000 miles I noticed my brakes squeal when I was coming to a slow stop. I haven't asked my dealership about it...but I was pretty shocked to hear them squealing so damn soon.

2500 miles - Front left brake sqealing. Havn't abused anything. I have not brought into dealer yet, but will. I'll keep you posted. Maybe it has to do with when our cars were built??

i know i'm bringing this thread back from the dead..but it's been frustrating me..didn't want to start another thread..just did a search...wondering if its still happening..and if anyone's done anything abt it..

right now i'm a lil over 7000 miles..but around 6000 i believe...my squeeling started..and it's aggrivating me..i took the car in to gorden...who always takes care of me all the time..i figured he'd give me a straight up answer and be nice as usual....but i was told that it was debris also...its so embarressing..u'd think they'd be able to do something...especially since its such low mileage...when i brake...i tend to play with them...brake slowly..then a lil bit more..tilll i just brake to a dead stop so it doesnt make noise...how annoying :(

Mine starting making noise around 5000 miles and went to the dealership twice and they still couldn’t fix it. But they did tell me it was under warranty and that it would be covered at no charge. I have no idea why they would tell you their not covered under warranty! Anyways here in Maryland we have something called a "Lemon Law" I believe or maybe it’s called something else. Well if they don't fix the same problem the 3rd time, they have to replace the whole car with a brand new one. So the dealership here in Silver Spring, Maryland replaced all the brake pads and all the rotors. Haven’t heard a sound from the brakes since!

1600 miles here and my brakes - left rear - have squealed since the day I drove off the lot. Was hoping it would go away but after reading all of this I'm not counting on it. I'll be in for oil on Fri so I'll be sure to letthe service peeps know.

it's considered wear and tear..so they don't have to replace my brakes :(

I have the same problem with my brakes.....they squeek when its hott out and not as much when its cold. when i went to the dealer they said its because the brake pads on the rx8 are to hard and basicly i have to live with it....all they did was clead my rotors and pads and sent me on my way, and their still squeeking. i think im just gonna buy aftermarket pads cuz mazda's not doing anything about this problem. >:(

MazdaManiac had a good suggestion in another thread on this...Try this and see if it helps? Mine squeak too, I just haven't really had the opportunity to try this.

My brakes started to be annoying about a month ago. I have 11,500 miles on my 8, and just passed my first year.

I took it in yesterday and the tech suggested the problem might be that the pins the calipers slide on need to have anti-seize re-applied. He took an hour to remove each caliper, clean and "lub". He said many people screw up because they only do the front side of the caliper. It's only been a day, but I will report on whether it continues to be quiet.

All this talk of warped rotors.. my squeek only occurs when I brake coming to a stop. There is no vibration, like I would expect if the rotors were bad.

See this message:

http://www.finishlineperformance.com...cs/04-006.html

I printed out my TSB on it, and they got to it right away. If they say it's a "natural wear", then tell them your mileage on the car. Less than 30K, I don't think it's normal to go out so quickly. Mine has 11K on it only.

It's great now! It didn't lose the braking quality either.

Holy Jesus, are you serious? What compelled you guys to revive this 4-month-old thread?!? I think every squeaky-brakes thread since this one sufficiently gave the same answers. But whatever floats your boat.

Since I'm here, I may as well add my two cents. After maybe two months with the new, non-squeaky brakes, I'm of the opinion that the original brakes had better stopping power. With the originals, my car immediately, and literally, screeched to a halt; with the new ones, the stop is more drawn-out and jarring. I'm a big fan of the decreased brake dust but felt more confident in the performane of the original pads.

Dealer replaced mine under warranty - no problems at all.

I printed out my TSB from finishline and I took it to the dealership, with 32k miles and they replaced my brakes. No questions asked once I showed them the TSB, especially the bottom notes parts that says that ALL cars that complain about this have to get them replaced under warranty until the 36k miles.

so i saved a bunch of $$$ with that!!!

by the way it was at Gunther Mazda in Fort Lauderdale

The 1st dealer I called, my usual service dealer and also the closest, had no idea what I was talking about. The service guy even paused on the phone and said here comes the general manager, let me ask him, he comes back on after a few minutes and says, they have never heard of a TSB or brake repacement issue for RX-8's. I told him I know of others who have had this done and am aware of TSB. So, I call the far away dealer where the car was purchased and ask for the service manager and right away he knew what I was talking about. I ask him about the rotors, no problem he says, we will service them and replace them if necessary. We have even replaced some calipers on this type of work, he says. Made appt. with them even though it is not convenient for me.

My dealership (the oneI never have problems with until now) willnot do the free brake replacement. They say mineare too worn

The TSB says it is a 50,000 mile warranty on brakes, I would keep trying with other dealers.