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Jax_RX8 04-10-2007 02:45 PM

I just had my Tanabe NF210's installed today - dealership quoted $550, plus $80 for alignment. I found a local shop that did it for $300 plus $75 or alignment with guidance and the DIY from this forum

setenza 04-10-2007 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by Jax_RX8
I just had my Tanabe NF210's installed today - dealership quoted $550, plus $80 for alignment. I found a local shop that did it for $300 plus $75 or alignment with guidance and the DIY from this forum

Thanks Jax

dumb question...are those prices including the price of the springs or is that just for install labor? I was going to order the springs themselves from DPE (thinking Tein basics at this point) then get them installed locally.

DPE 04-11-2007 12:38 PM

I would say the $300+ whatever an alignment costs sounds about right. It shouldn't take a competent shop more than four hours, which at $75/hr means $300 or so. And be it springs, shocks and springs, or a coilover kit, the cost should be the same as far as labor. And the prices I'm showing are JUST labor costs.

FWIW, coilovers are a bit easier to install quickly as you don't have to compress the springs for the install (just lower the spring seat, install the tophat, and set the spring seat to the proper height), and for something like Tein Flex with their own upper mounts, it's even more straightforward as there's no disassembly of the OEM 'coilover'.

7andan8 04-12-2007 07:47 AM

I unfortunately can vouche for the dealership being the higher install price!

I do however LOVE the Tein Basics on my car! Can't wait to hit the Dragon next week!

bigireland 04-21-2008 06:16 AM

glad i found this thread..

dozer 08-01-2008 06:06 PM

pm me with price of the GFs...im lookin for springs

swoope 08-01-2008 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by dozer (Post 2578200)
pm me with price of the GFs...im lookin for springs

he is no longer in business.

you might try one of our other forum vendors. or send a pm to charles hill...

beers :beer:

Jedi54 08-01-2008 06:42 PM

dozer: DPE shut down a little ago. Check with Charles R. Hill.
He's on the road for a few days but send him a PM and he'll get back to you.

If I talk to him in the next day or two, I'll get a price for ya

rotorhead335 11-14-2008 04:56 PM

dpe/Phil
 

Originally Posted by Jedi54 (Post 2578240)
dozer: DPE shut down a little ago. Check with Charles R. Hill.
He's on the road for a few days but send him a PM and he'll get back to you.

If I talk to him in the next day or two, I'll get a price for ya

If you follow the link in Vendors (think that's where I saw it) to the dpe site, then follow the link to Phil's "History of dpe", you will read a very interesting story from someone who seems like one of the good guys. Sad story but not a new one, unfortunately.
:eyetwitch

Jedi54 11-14-2008 05:21 PM

http://www.dpeweb.com/DPEStory.aspx

sad indeed, Phil was a pleasure to do business with.

zoom44 01-31-2009 08:05 PM

stuck to see if this is the right one.

Jedi54 01-31-2009 08:13 PM

thanks for bringing this thread back Zoom, this has some great info in it.

interog8 02-18-2009 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by Jedi54 (Post 2845156)
thanks for bringing this thread back Zoom, this has some great info in it.

While this thread has a ton of useful info, I'm wondering what the most popular setup is? Are most people using springs on OEM shocks, getting coilovers or doing aftermarket shock/springs? Is there a thread where people are posting what they have and maybe pics too?

Thanks :):)

Big Money Pit 02-18-2009 09:05 PM

what's the difference in ride height between the koni setup with h-techs and the basics?

that's really the dealbreaker for me, because i'm soon to be rollin' on 17x10's.

xdj_jdx 03-06-2009 07:26 PM

what would be a good spring to go with the tein basic coilover kit? i dont want a big drop i was thinking about racing beats spring?? I want to be able to race on the track in the summer but i have pretty crappy roads here in MN. suggestions.. thank you

shaunv74 03-06-2009 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by xdj_jdx (Post 2901281)
what would be a good spring to go with the tein basic coilover kit? i dont want a big drop i was thinking about racing beats spring?? I want to be able to race on the track in the summer but i have pretty crappy roads here in MN. suggestions.. thank you

Um. The springs that come with the Tein basic coilover kit.:uhh:

7andan8 03-07-2009 07:17 AM

In case you didn't read through shaunv's sarcasm, the idea of a "coilover" is that you get the shock and spring in one package. The Tein Basics are adjustable for height so you can play with that once you have them mounted (although it can get expensive with a realignment each time).

xdj_jdx 03-07-2009 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by 7andan8 (Post 2901715)
In case you didn't read through shaunv's sarcasm, the idea of a "coilover" is that you get the shock and spring in one package. The Tein Basics are adjustable for height so you can play with that once you have them mounted (although it can get expensive with a realignment each time).

ok thanks i guess i missed that.... :icon_no2: lot of info at once. thanks guys

bza412 03-11-2009 12:36 AM

I am a car lowering noob, so had some basic questions. I want to pick up a set of springs, but was concerned with having to purchase a camber kit. I ask this because when I was thinkin about lowering my last car, everyone was recommending to get a camber kit to adjust for the drop in ride. Any suggestions?

Jedi54 03-11-2009 11:09 AM

You won't need a camber kit if all you're looking to do is drop your 8. The camber kit only comes into play if you're setting the alignment

shaunv74 03-11-2009 11:18 AM

Lowering the ride height on this car will actually allow you to get more camber than stock. That is a good thing. :)

Either way though you should be able to get a stock alignment setting as long as you don't go lower than 1". If you do you'll just have to make due with a little more negative camber. Which is a good thing in this case for more cornering power. :)

bza412 03-11-2009 10:58 PM

thanks for all your help guys, its greatly appreciated, i'll post pics when i get the job done, but it won't be for a while... :)

ferg 04-09-2009 03:46 PM

any deals of s tech? or even sprint springs

gmcalabr 04-11-2009 09:40 AM

Noobish questions...
 
I'm hoping to get some relatively stiff springs, moreso that most of the ones you guys have been talking about, but the two stiffest springs mentioned here weren't reviewed. Seems like the Mazdaspeed kit is just too damn expensive to review. I mean, I'm really looking at the Tokico DSP setup that's around that stiffness because it's way cheaper and adjustable, but I'd like to know how the car reacts to that weight spring.

Also, Megan Racing makes this height adjustable kit for the RX-8:
http://www.meganracing.com/products/...d=470&catid=93
They're definitely harder than I'd like to go (450lb/in front, 337 rear), but still not quite 800lb track springs, so I'm still considering them.

What do you guys think of springs in this range?

Also, I believe it's been stated that any level of drop more than 1" means the stock suspension can't be realigned to normal levels of camber. What've you guys found on this front? (not that I'm looking to lower my car more than than)

the_duke313 04-11-2009 05:35 PM

anyone have the specs on the bilstein pss9's?


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