Shattered dreams of Advan
 

First of all, like what I did there^ :rolleyes:

For as long as i remember i have been in love with Advan RGII's, after purchasing my 40 i knew i had to have them. I had found a nice size in gold which i originally wanted, continued researching them and found out that they are cast wheels! :scared: incase you didn't get the pun in the title...

I realize that there IS a difference between Advan cast and Rota cast(shittiest shit ever according to many) But i cannot justify spending 600 per rim if it cracks from my daily driving. I live in NJ and commute to NJIT in newark everyday and i swear its like a autocross event trying to dodge potholes. So the current plan is to save up for Rota Boosts which are 800 new for all 4 rims, or wait for some used ones to pop up for around that same price with tires.

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I would love to buy some mazdaspeed aero for my 40 as i havnt found one picture of a 40 with mazdaspeed parts but the fact is that when my house sells i plan on purchasing a 7 and keep my 8 for daily driving. In the mean time i wanted to upgrade something that can be transplanted onto the 7 in the future.

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My question to all of you guys, which color Rota Boost looks best on the 40? I attached gold and gunmetal pictures on my and another 40. Im not limited to those 2 colors, just what i happened to photoshop. Oh and no black, i hate black rims.

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I vote black or white, but I'm partial to black wheels on most cars. White would look sexy on your car.

The advan cast won't crack that easily.
Heck, there are rally teams using cast wheels.

^^+1

Your stock wheels are cast, the majority of aluminum wheels are cast. Forging is expensive. It allows for the use of less material which makes them lighter, but not necessarily stronger. They are stronger vs. their mass when compared to a cast wheel, but not necessarily stronger overall.

Gravity-cast and flow-formed are not the same.
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/....jsp?techid=90

MMeglen- i've always wanted white wheels :) I thought people thought white rims were gay?

bse50-Ive seen cracked RGII's from potholes and rota boosts cracked from potholes, I realize that the rotas will crack before the RGII's but i cant justify spending 600 as a replacement rim. If a good deal swings around then HELL YES id be all over the advans, i love their weight, i love their design, i love everything about them down to the sticker that id slap on.

What colors do you guys think?

Not feeling any one of those...the stock wheels looks better, just my opinion...sorry.

Anyway, if i have to pick...i'll say the silver plated.

You have a nice car. Dont put that garbage on it. Just keep it stock or go find a good deal on a set of proper wheels.

+9876775643....

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buy authentic Advans or GTFO.

i guess ill wait around for legit ones :smoker:

My work here is done :cool:

From seeing many rotas and real advans, i can tell you they just dont look quite as smooth as the real rg2s. I have seen many people drive daily in pothole citys with rotas/advans without a problem.

buncha haters im sorry but all you guys are crazy to think that stock is better than rotas. not everyone has the money for rays or advans.

btw I ran boosts on my srt-4 for 2 years... no issues at all.

this explains a lot :suspect:

Op go authentic or you will regret it. Someone asks, "Hey man, are those ADVANS?"
do you want to say, "Nah they're just Rotas"?
Go big or go home. No shortcuts and you/your car will be more respected.
Btw nice photoshops and I would go with gun metallic :)

Would you buy a lambo replica just because you can't afford the real deal?
Shortcuts in the automotive industry are just stupid. Go buy a chinese turbo because you can't afford a garrett!

just wait for better ones, i was waiting for a long time before i find a extremelly awesome deal on my wedsports tc105

Just for the record: Rotas as shit. Stock is superior in every way.

I learned this at a young age, "If you have to ask the price, you can't afford it."

I'm so sick of cheap ass posers coming in here WANTING a certain LOOK but then not willing to pay for it.
You want your car to LOOK like it has Advans?? Simple: BUY ADVANS. done, end of story.

Completely agree.

You can always save up, but I completely understand.

Nothing will match stock quality, but I don't see a big deal other than parking lot stuntin. Sure Prada is better.

This goes right along with what i was saying about cast not necessarily being bad, and what everyone is saying about rota being shit.

Cast Advans are usually flow-formed or high pressure cast.
Stocks are low pressure cast.
Rotas are gravity cast.

read the article and you'll see why rotas are shit comparatively.

There isn't a comparison in quality between the rotas and the advan's at all.

I understand not wanting to dump a bunch of money on wheels, but you get what you pay for.


OP:
If you want RG2's check the evo forums, I've seen them in decent specs go for ~1200 for the set w/tires.

I look for them all the time to use as track wheels. I just never have the cash(other priorities then a 2nd set of wheels) to grab them when a good deal comes up.

i broke one of my RGII's a few years ago drifting at Horse Thief Mile. its sucks when you have to replace them but i still love my wheels.

http://motormavens.com/emAlbum/album...wheel_Copy.jpg

Since i plan on transplanting them onto the rx7 in the future when i saw this on a feed kit which i love, i think i might go for the RS. I wont buy rotas, ill save and save and may become a prostitute to pay for these :)

http://www.advanwheels.com.au/media/...RX-7.11092.jpg

Then do i have the picture for you!

My Advans... RS 18x9 +28

PS - a great place to buy cheap slightly used Advans is evolutionm.com in the private classifieds forum.

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7140/p1016113.jpg

Listen up bro. If you want Rota's and that's what you can afford then get them. So what that they look like another wheel from another more reputable company.

People tend to forget that we are all not freaking rich. We have families and responsibilities. That spending 600-1200 per wheel just so no one will bash you is utterly ridiculous. Most people who bash can't afford the wheels they really want anyway, and their car does not look up to par with the standards they set for others.

If your searching for a certain look and can accomplish/execute it spending thousands less than do so. Fuk peoples opinions.

If you were tracking your car its a different story. You get what you pay for. And those rotas will not be as reliable as the more expensive brands. But for daily driving your good.

Sorry for the strong language, but I feel strongly on this subject, because it reminds me about the different classes in society and the prejudice among them.

Thanks for the kind words(towards me) deep down i do feel what the others are saying, i wouldn't be happy with the rotas, i wouldn't be as proud to show off my car, i just need to save more. the RS tend to sell used for alittle more compared to the RGII but i like how the RS look on the FD more, which brings me to my next point that ill most likely track the FD when the ball starts rolling in a few years so i guess its good to buy a reputable wheel rather than buying a shitty one and having to buy a reputable wheel to replace it.

[QUOTE=JantzenRX-8;4118117]Then do i have the picture for you!

My Advans... RS 18x9 +28

PS - a great place to buy cheap slightly used Advans is evolutionm.com in the private classifieds forum.

those are so pretty....wow... i have a question for you actually, i stumbled on a thread on evolutionm.com about people with the RS getting chips from rocks or whatever, have you experienced this? Would buying the RSD fix this since it is more recessed and the spokes aren't protruding out?

Yeah, i believe that. I think most of my rock chips are from the previous owner but they definitely get chipped up over time. RS-D's look better anyway. I think it's TopGear8 that has a set of those on his bb.

Save up for the RS-D's, they look awesome. Make sure to get an offset that will fit the 8 and FD.
...and to add what the others have said, fuck Rotas and get Advans, you won't regret it.

No doubt bro. This wasn't shots fired at anyone. Just something that urks me and I see happen everywhere. Even as a rx8 owner we get haters all the time by false information about the car. Even from 7 owners.

If faking the funk is your game, then by all means, Rotas would be fine.

I would personally prefer to run OEM wheels and save up for Advans than run Rotas. You say not everyone can afford Advans, but if one can save up for Rotas, one should be able to save a bit longer and buy the real deal. Advans are expensive but with a little ingenuity, one can pick up a used set or save up and shop around a good amount.

You know, so many people throw around the terms gravity cast, lp cast, flow formed, rim rolled, "MAT", rotary forged, spin forged, forged, etc. but when it comes down to it, a wheel's strength depends on more than the manufacturing process. Wheel design has as much to do with strength as manufacturing process. Some gravity cast wheels will be stronger than LP cast wheels, due to design.

Take, for example, the RPF1 - this is a wheel designed strictly with weight in mind and because of this, it is very weak at some points.

It would be nice if the motto, "you get what you pay for" were always true in the aftermarket modification world but the simple fact is it is not true. While I am the strongest supporter of purchasing the Advans and am not suggesting the Rotas are going to be 100% on par with weight and strength, the fact is, the certifications/tests matter more than any "manufacturing process" propaganda. Properly JWL & VIA tested? The wheels should be fine for most circumstances.

There are many brands out there that market themselves as high-end brands and charge high-end brand prices when the product simply isn't as superior as they lead the public to believe.

Impatience is no excuse for cheaping out on auto parts and not getting what you really want. If one can save for Rotas but actually wants Advans, one can wait a bit longer and save for the Advans. The fact that OP wanted Advans, then switched to Rotas, is what would upset people. Furthermore, the fact that OP is considering an FD in the future, a car that requires loads of upkeep, it should be assumed that a certain amount of income is present.

If all one cares about is a look, then sure, the Rotas will be fine. I even disagree with your comment about tracking; I'm sure Rotas would be sufficient there as well. Again, it all comes down to whether one is cool/proud to fake the funk.

A slight side note, but didn't you used to have, "Authenticity = Perfection" in your signature?

Now that that rant is over, I'll throw in my $.02 to OP.

Buy what you will be proud of. Proud of rocking Rotas? Then by all means...

I would personally go Advan in this case :icon_tup:

In red



Like I stated in my last post. I wasn't attacking anyone that posted in this thread. But expressing my thoughts. Because I have friends that are less fortunate and I'm tired of people bashing others for being less fortunate.

Tilt did I offend u?

Not at all, I was just replying to the thread as a whole and your comments happened to be one I quoted. Just a fun topic to debate, since there are quite a few crossed messages/concepts going around online.

I'm not one to bash; hopefully the discerning reader got the points I'm making.

The age old saying will always stand true; to each, his own. :icon_tup:

i get what both of you guys are saying, and income will be present after my house sells. The fd will be something i can tinker with and slowly mod. Its not really "considering buying a fd" lets just say its going to happen, just a question of when. Being in love with the fd for years helps :) If the FD turns into a Financial Disaster then its exactly what im expecting. Im expecting to eat spam while i mod my fd.

From what my countless months of research into this.. Many people have a misconception of FD's breaking every 20 miles. But that is because people dont pour money into reliability. The first 5k i spend will be just towards making the car not break. I actually dont intend to push more hp out of the car until i mod everything else.

I understand your points... I personally want 18x9.5 +20 grids... I want them over "the real deal" due to the look... I want concave but I dont want to run 10.5 width TEs to get it. Would I be more proud rocking TEs over grids? yes but thats not worth 3k in my book, thats 3k I can spend on my family and child.

granted my goals and the OPs goals are not the same so in his case I say save up the extra and get the advans... and I second the RS-Ds because they are teh sex.

you should look into the Varrstoen 2.2.2 instead of the grids, saw a pic of a bmw that went off a cliff with varrstoens and the rims were fine :D:

http://www.gencoupe.com/756387-post41.html

they only cost that much because of the clueless JDM-idiot worship in high school parking lots, there are better options everywhere in both price and quality

That is very impressive... those are closer replicas to the TEs but I'm still feeling the grids over them looks wise. the varrstoens look better in 19" sizes though but I don't plan on running 19s due to tire cost.

love every one of your posts:bowdown:

there's nothing special about them. They aren't light, they aren't strong. It's just a bunch of hype.