Opinion on Dunlop Direzza Z1 Star Specs?
So before consulting the wise forum (and yes I searched for a review/opinions on the tire; all I found was "it's a good tire") I went and bought a set of four to put on next week for the summer. Please tell me I did not make a huge mistake (i.e. my research wasn't botched) and wasted my money.
I choose these over Kumho Ecsta XS, which my friend has and says are great tires. The Kumho's were cheaper but I found better research on the Dunlops. I also ran on Dunlop Wintersport M3's this winter and I was/am (as they are still on) very impressed with that tire. So with the good reviews on the Direzzas and a highly positive (man those Wintersports were great tires) experience with my first set of Dunlop's, I snatched a whole set of Direzzas for a slight hair over a grand. I'll be running 275/35ZR-18s on Enkei RPF1 18 x 9.5 +45, if that affects professional judgment at all. So am I good to go? |
Those tires will kick ass, TONS better than the Kumhos
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You did read the ratings on TireRack, right? I think you're gonna love them ...... I hope they last you a while. TireRack and users rated them # 1 .
BTW, I love my Dunlop Wintersport M3 too. My new summer tires are going to be Bridgestone RE760s ... nothing near yours. |
I did read the TireRack ratings and reviews and I also read some other material from a pro engineering group... one of those long research studies on rubber compounds used.
Originally Posted by rx8cited
My new summer tires are going to be Bridgestone RE760s ... nothing near yours.
Thanks for the confirmation. |
I considered them for a while, but I am thinking of going with Nitto NT-05s instead...mostly because of it's better response to wet conditions
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From everything I've heard/read they should be great tires. I hope your autocrossing with tires that wide. I wouldn't have got that size for the race track or general street driving.
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Great grip, but mildly dissapointing subjectively, IMO. This is 245s on 8.5s. I find the turn-in to be a bit sloppy compared to Toyo T1-Rs, even though the Dunlops are ultimately faster.
I think 275s on 8.5s is asking for turn-in sloppiness. Nobody knows yet how these will compare to the XS, which is brand new this year. It's a topic that is hotly discussed by the Street Tire autocross crowd. Last year, the SS was one of the hot tires. But there is some feedback that this year's newer tires (XS, Toyo R1R, Bridgestone RE11) are even faster. There will be a tire test in next month's Grassroots Motorsports. However, it will be based on a Miata (I think) so it's hard to say how accurate it will be for us. They both are great tires and are very fast - the absolute difference on the street is probably moot. [edit] I see you have already bought the tires. Didn't mean to dis your purchase. You may have to run more pressure to make them work well. Good luck. |
Originally Posted by GeorgeH
(Post 2971408)
I think 275s on 8.5s is asking for turn-in sloppiness.
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Great choice of tires; my stock Dunlop 8090's have been excellent.
Edit: 275x35x18 on 18x9.5 Enkei RPF1s is the way to go. Enjoy!!.
Originally Posted by endowdly
(Post 2971216)
So before consulting the wise forum (and yes I searched for a review/opinions on the tire; all I found was "it's a good tire") I went and bought a set of four to put on next week for the summer. Please tell me I did not make a huge mistake (i.e. my research wasn't botched) and wasted my money.
I choose these over Kumho Ecsta XS, which my friend has and says are great tires. The Kumho's were cheaper but I found better research on the Dunlops. I also ran on Dunlop Wintersport M3's this winter and I was/am (as they are still on) very impressed with that tire. So with the good reviews on the Direzzas and a highly positive (man those Wintersports were great tires) experience with my first set of Dunlop's, I snatched a whole set of Direzzas for a slight hair over a grand. I'll be running 275/35ZR-18s on Enkei RPF1 18 x 8.5 +45, if that affects professional judgment at all. So am I good to go? |
Originally Posted by HockeyRX-8
(Post 2971501)
he has 9.5s...he made an error.
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Then you are good to go. Enjoy!
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Originally Posted by GeorgeH
(Post 2971408)
Great grip, but mildly dissapointing subjectively, IMO. This is 245s on 8.5s. I find the turn-in to be a bit sloppy compared to Toyo T1-Rs, even though the Dunlops are ultimately faster.
There will be a tire test in next month's Grassroots Motorsports. However, it will be based on a Miata (I think) so it's hard to say how accurate it will be for us. They both are great tires and are very fast - the absolute difference on the street is probably moot. [edit] I see you have already bought the tires. Didn't mean to dis your purchase. You may have to run more pressure to make them work well. Good luck. Since the MX5 and the RX8 now share the same platform, it should be a decently accurate estimate. And I'll try running them a little bit higher than normal at first. It seems to be a good suggestion if you think they're sloppy. I usually run a tiny tad soft... but I'm weird like that.
Originally Posted by alnielsen
(Post 2971368)
From everything I've heard/read they should be great tires. I hope your autocrossing with tires that wide. I wouldn't have got that size for the race track or general street driving.
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No, as I said, my comments were directed to a 275 fitment on an 8.5 in wheel. Now that you have corrected your post, I think you have choosen well. No reason to run abnormally higher pressures on the 9.5s.
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I'm going to be purchasing these tires in about a month from now. I'm planning on getting 245/40/18 all around for my stock wheels. I'm upgrading from Bridgestone G-Force sports. I'm hoping for a huge improvement. Everything I've read has been great regarding the star specs.
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I was going to go Goodyear F1 Asymmetric (Max performance), but now you've got me (again, again ..) reconsidering. Let us know how the Z1's (Extreme performance) run for you and I would like to know about the relative road noise level.
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I'm also interested in the road noise when compared to other tires. Also some information about the wet weather performance would be helpful. The bridgestones I have now are terrible in the wet.
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Originally Posted by GeorgeH
(Post 2971727)
No, as I said, my comments were directed to a 275 fitment on an 8.5 in wheel. Now that you have corrected your post, I think you have choosen well. No reason to run abnormally higher pressures on the 9.5s.
Originally Posted by Gdawg522
(Post 2971839)
I'm going to be purchasing these tires in about a month from now. I'm planning on getting 245/40/18 all around for my stock wheels. I'm upgrading from Bridgestone G-Force sports. I'm hoping for a huge improvement. Everything I've read has been great regarding the star specs.
Originally Posted by Huey52
(Post 2971864)
I was going to go Goodyear F1 Asymmetric (Max performance), but now you've got me (again, again ..) reconsidering. Let us know how the Z1's (Extreme performance) run for you and I would like to know about the relative road noise level.
Stay tuned! |
Originally Posted by endowdly
(Post 2971296)
You really think they'll be that good!? I know a lot of people swear by RE series tires and also the F1s. But that's great news! Hot damn! :smoker:
Thanks for the confirmation. I'd get Dunlop Z1's too if I did not have such a long f***ing commute - this is my daily driver. I'm hoping the RE760 will be great for my needs. I wish their tread pattern was symmetric like the Z1 :(. BTW, I'm sticking with stock size and I don't have the knowledge to comment on size you've chosen. |
!!! Update !!!
Delivery will be set back because the good folks at TireRack were concerned that my front tires were very wide and might not fit. They put my order on hold until I could confirm I knew what I was doing, so I did. I do not know the new delivery date, but I will keep you updated as I get information so you're not all guessing when I will get the review to you. |
Thanks; looking forward to your review.
Originally Posted by endowdly
(Post 2972307)
:icon_tup: Gotcha, thx!
Yeah, everything I read on specs, reviews, and professional papers was quality! I am getting the tires on Saturday and should have them mounted on my RPF1s by next Thursday. I'll give you all an initial review by the next Sunday and a follow up whenever I get them really wet and then again after I break them in. Stay tuned! |
You're asking for opinions AFTER purchasing? :dunce:
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Originally Posted by savedsol
(Post 2974383)
You're asking for opinions AFTER purchasing? :dunce:
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They're great tires, even on a heavier car like mine(which I believe is heavy enough without affecting its efficiency and effectiveness) you'll get a scrubbing feel like on R-comps while taking hard turns. The best street tires like that of the star specs are similar to grip with R-comps on the track, but don't last as long in terms of greasiness. They're loud imo when coming to a stop, you'll find out soon enough, lol. Have fun with the tires, they're a step down from R-comps imo, which is a good thing.
Pros: Sticks, looks great Cons: Decent tread wear for its stickiness, loud. |
Originally Posted by savedsol
(Post 2974383)
You're asking for opinions AFTER purchasing? :dunce:
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Originally Posted by UserrName
(Post 2974915)
They're great tires, even on a heavier car like mine(which I believe is heavy enough without affecting its efficiency and effectiveness) you'll get a scrubbing feel like on R-comps while taking hard turns. The best street tires like that of the star specs are similar to grip with R-comps on the track, but don't last as long in terms of greasiness. They're loud imo when coming to a stop, you'll find out soon enough, lol. Have fun with the tires, they're a step down from R-comps imo, which is a good thing.
Pros: Sticks, looks great Cons: Decent tread wear for its stickiness, loud. great tires. and wearing much less than i would have thought.. beers :beer: |
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