so no one has answered will this bulletin work with an 05. i have had my car just barely 2 months and the rotors are now a nice copper/gold color. i live in so cal so they barely see water. it doesn't seem like the issue has been fixed with the 05's.

snap on will this bulletin work with 05 rx-8s?

I recently took my 04 into the shop for an oil change. my car has less than 9k on it. anyways. i asked them if they can take a look at the rotors. I asked if they could paint them, but he said that the paint would probably wear off. so he put in a note on the work order. It also turns out that i had a small recall that needed to be done so i had to pickup the car later. upon calling to see when i can pick it up, the service manager told me that they'll hold the car until tomorrow because they ordered new rotors and would replace them. I immediately asked them if it was for free and he said yep. So i don't know if anyone else had this done. maybe i was just lucky. hopefully they give me rustless rotors :D

Anyone in the Midwest get there dealer to take care of this gratis?

My 8 is currently in for recall work, and I mentioned the hub rust. They say they will grind it and coat it with some sort of silver colored sealant...but it'll cost me $90. I told them that other dealers were doing something similar, but for free...because the rust is "excessive." Service lady said they could not because we're in the Midwest and the road conditions are so harsh that this is expected.

that service lady is totally bullshitting you but Mazda did pull this free service

forget paying them $90 that is for sure...just do the best and right thing...

Buy a caliper/rotor painting kit (G2 kit is best)...doing it yourself will turn out 100 times better anyhow...and you can choose the colors for the Calipers and/or rotors

what about removing the current rust first? not sure i have the skills/equipment for that

EDIT: nevermind...I just got off the phone with the service rep and they've already got 2 of them grinded. too late for me i guess. I just hope this sealant that they are putting on holds up.

I just had mine re-painted yesterday by the dealership. They look great and I didn't pay a penny.
According to the receipt the dealer just charged it back to Mazda as warranty work done.

Most of these photos also show rust on the friction surface of the rotor. Ignore that; it's normal, and scrapes off with the first couple brakings (that's why the brakes sound scratchy on a wet morning). The ugly rust on the center hub of the rotor is not normal. Mine were repainted (warranty) several months ago and still look good.

Can you post a full scan of the receipt please :)

also did they repaint the rotors and calipers or just rotors? thanks bud

They just painted the rotors. Hey Jason, Because I recently went to Linux I can't seem to get my scan function on my printer to work yet.
What I will do is take a picture of the invoice and try to post it here or email it to you. give me a little time to post it.

thanks tigger :)

Here it is. I hope this will do.

thanks I'll see if it works :D

If it helps, as soon as I mention my rusty rotors the service manager stated that Mazda is covering it under warranty.

Tiggerlee just got his done and it's an '05.


Looks like I'll be making a trip to the dealership soon to have mine done. :)

got mine done no problems whatsoever. They even told me if it rusts again they will replace the whole rotor :).

I LOVE BURLINGAME MAZDA!

Dealer sanded and repainted the rotors. I was told to bring it back if the rust stain shows again.

Nedor

haha mazda won't paint mine. haha

I just did mine myself. Took a small wire brush to the rust and got the worst of it off, then sprayed a high-temp (1200 deg) Duplicolor paint on. The edges are looking a little ratty now (5 months later) but other than that it's holding up fine.

Also, electrical tape works really well for masking the contact area - it conforms to the curve real easily.

Whats up Trigger...long time no see.

What dealership did you go to? Why won't they paint them?

I just sprayed the entire rotor. The break pads do a prefect job of removing excess paint.

please say you are kidding RR :mdrmed:

My dealership is the same way. They said it USED to be a TSB, but Mazda has removed it, and it's no longer covered under waranty.

I can't get mine done anywhere in Utah. I have contacted D, Dahle about it and Bountiful Mazda. They all have told me no. Whatever, I will be painting rotors and calipers in Spring.

Can't get mine done either, so I put a comment about it on the back of my survey thing I got in the mail from mazda. Probably won't help but worth a shot.

Got mine painted today , Ferman Mazda in Tampa sanded and painted them for me, under warranty, also said if it comes back bring it back to us.

I have had my 2004 8 for about 18 months and I just took it to my dealer (Tom Bush Mazda in Jacksonville, FL and they had no issues with painting my rotors. In fact while they were in the process of doing the work, the technician went ahead and replaced my brake pads as well for no charge.

Thanks for the information on the bulletin....

MJ

oh hey wsup long time. they said it won't do anything and it isnt in their computer. since this was a MRI and not a TSB where they can see it pop up. its not a big deal but i did want it to get it painted.

Hey, Magellen, have you been able to get this work done? If so, which dealership did you take it to? I'm from Mpls as well, and I'd like to have the problem taken care of, too! Mine is an '05 with 4K miles and the rotor is already very rusted!!

What is an "ESI search" ? And although I believe someone got work done on a 2005 RX8 in this thread the provided MRI only states it is good for a 2004 RX8. Has there been an update to include 2005 RX8 ?

MY dealership in KC replaced my front rotors and painted the hubs of all 4 rotors in addition to painting the calipers. the paint on the hubs is holding up well but the calipers are not fairing so well. Half of the paint has come off and looks worse than before. In addition, the painting of the rotor hubs does nothing for the even bigger problem, the rust i n the rotor vanes that spewing rust water everywhere when wet. Nothing worse than cleaning nice wheels and drive off and a rust ring appearing.

I can't take this rust issue anymore and I'm now in the process of ridding myself of this problem. 3 Step process here:

1. Replace rotors with zinc or e-coated rotors (this takes care of the hub and vanes).
2. Powercoat the calipers.
3. Buy new backplates and powder coat them as well.
4. Replace brake pads and brake lines to round out the process.

Pics are forthcoming as the work happens. wish me luck

I might be the '05 you were referring to. I didn't take any print outs or anything in with me when I asked about the rotors. I just mentioned it to the service manager and he said they'd take care of it under warranty. I'm sure this isn't the rule when it comes to service dept's. One may do it while another might not. Just depends I guess. If they've got any other 8's on the lot walk over and take a look at their rotors. If you see they are rusty as well you might be able to convince them to fix it by bring up that fact. May or may not work but if you really don't want to do them yourself then it's worth a shot. :)

Just got mine back from the dealership today with just a hair over 10,000 miles on the car they did the work for me and I had never been to this dealership before becauset it's out of town for me. Brown's Mazda in Fairfax VA. They also did the slow start recall and my car runs WAY smoother now. Now I just get the chance to wash my car tommorow and I'll be good to go. Here's a tip. If they don't guarantee they are going to do the rotors when you drop the car off, leave the bulletin on the passenger seat (helps if the rest of the car is clean). Then somehow miraculously when they have the car they *FIND* the MRI or whatever it was. It's a good job to get done, they look 1000 times better.

I bought my 8 in November of 04 and mine were just starting to rust a little so I painted the rotor, calipers and back plate. I used black caliper paint and I put like 6 coates and they still look good.

UPDATE: I talked to my dealership last week about my brake rust problems and I was told by the service manager to bring the car in so they can look at it and take pics to send them on to Mazda to see how they want to address my concerns. The dealer took pics of the calipers and rotors and told me they were going to speak to the district rep and get back with me this week.



They called me today and told me that Mazda had authorized them to replace my rotors with the new ones from the ’06 model. These are supposed to have a coating on the rotor hub and the fins are supposed to be coated as well.



I informed the service manger that is was only one of the issues I had with the rust problem. There still is the rust from the calipers as well as the back plates. I told him that I had a plan to resolve this myself with the powder coating of the calipers and back plate and the addition of zinc/e-coated rotors. I also explained to him my dilemma about getting my set of calipers powder coated but needing someone to take my calipers off and house my car while this work was done. He verbally agreed to do this work for me since I was willing to spend the $$ to get the calipers powder coated. He wanted to talk this over with Mazda as well, so I was told he would call me back when he knew something.



2 hours go by and I get a call back from the service manager with good news. Mazda has not only agreed to replace the rotors (4), but all calipers (the new ones from the ’06 – rust treated ones), and the new styled backing plates (treated as well). The dealership is in the process of ordering all the parts and I will schedule an appointment for next week to look over these new parts.



Mazda had issue with the powder coating of the calipers due to the complete tear down of the calipers and possible failure due to improper prep work during the powder coat process. Mazda didn’t want the dealer or themselves liable for this the calipers.



The crazy part about this is that I started ordering all the parts I would need to powder coat my calipers and back plates, replace my pads and to replace my rotors with cross drilled/slotted ones. I have canceled the orders I could, but I still have the new rotors on their way with the Axxis ult pads. If the new dealer rotors aren’t up to snuff I will just have the other rotors installed.



I will take pics of all the new parts with part #’s so others can get the process going at their dealerships.




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MY dealership in KC replaced my front rotors and painted the hubs of all 4 rotors in addition to painting the calipers. the paint on the hubs is holding up well but the calipers are not fairing so well. Half of the paint has come off and looks worse than before. In addition, the painting of the rotor hubs does nothing for the even bigger problem, the rust i n the rotor vanes that spewing rust water everywhere when wet. Nothing worse than cleaning nice wheels and drive off and a rust ring appearing.

I can't take this rust issue anymore and I'm now in the process of ridding myself of this problem. 3 Step process here:

1. Replace rotors with zinc or e-coated rotors (this takes care of the hub and vanes).
2. Powercoat the calipers.
3. Buy new backplates and powder coat them as well.
4. Replace brake pads and brake lines to round out the process.

i got mine painted yesterday along w/ my 12k mile service... the silver paint isn't the nicest looking but its definitely nicer than having all that rust on there...

damnit
 

My dealer sux. I went in for an oil change and mentioned the rusted rotors, which look pretty bad. He said he'd look into it. When I got my car back, he didn't even mention the rotors at all, but my oil change was free...wtf?

I hate having to argue with people. They should just do what's right the first time :-/

I just got mine painted on my 05 at Fitzgerald in Frederick, MD. When I went in for my first oil change when I had about 500 miles on the car I mentioned it and they said they wouldn't do anything.
This time around I mentioned the ESI search, the service manager was nice and said he would try to look it up but they haven't ever covered this in the past. He looked it up (same one that was posted here but from mazdas site) Called his regional manager to do a CYA I suppose and then took care of the problem for me.

They did a really good job and used a high quality paint. Only thing that ticked me off is they got some of the paint on my red calipers =\ but in about 10minutes I had that fixed myself.

The silver looks way better than the bare metal did even without the rust.

Is there a milage cap or year cap on this issue, i just bought a "new to me" 2004 and have this issue, are they going to give me crap about not being the original owner, thanks in advance

I saw today on my new 06 that I have the rust problem, too, so I am going to tell them about it when I am getting a key programmed.

bump*

im at rosenthal right now, but i cant find the ACTUAL TSB. not the dubious "copy/paste" snap-on posted.

does anyone have the TSB? i'd need the actual tsb for them to do the work.

I'm sorry but "rust on the rotors"? The rotors are in the engine and you certainly wouldn't paint them.
Could you explain what you mean? I have been maintaining cars for well over 35 years and this has really puzzled me.

Kind regards Phillip

^ Brake rotors.

Oh right! Well the company that invented disc brakes called them discs. However what part did they have to re-paint?

Calling brake discs "rotors" will cause confusion, especially on a site devoted to a car with a Rotary engine!

In all the car Workshop handbooks I have - quite a few American as well, not one refers to "Brake Rotors" it is always "Brake disks".

Language hey funny thing isnt it.

Regards

Phil.

All the best,

Phil.