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mazda might void my car 08-13-2005 08:23 PM

Wanna hear BS from what mazda told me about our cars...
 
The Mazda dealer I went to say that I should not be in 6000 rpms and up range while driving or that is considered abuse. Listen to this they told me after they found out what happened to my car they test drove a AUTO and said they put it in manual mode and ran 1st gear to 6500 and then put it back in to drive and it went right to third. The Mazda engineer then told me that he felt at 6500 rpms the car should be in 3rd and if its not that is considered abuse.

1. I do not have an auto CAR I have manual
2. They advertise the redline with all glitz and glory
3. Give me some f---ing power below 6000 rpms and I will not shift
4. I should have bought a car that u can have fun with and not be voided for abuse: mad:


All u know how temperamental our cars are

Our average engine temp runs up to 230 degrees water boils at 212 degrees, Mazda had to up the pressure to stop the water from boiling hence blown engines. Which means we can blow an engine if u lose more than 3 pounds per inch in our cooling system. Which basically sucks: mad:




I am another member but needed to come up with a fake email and username so the Mazda feds don’t catch me and void my warranty I just want the people of the cars to know more about Mazda and its BS and schemes…………..this post will self destruct in



5……..4……..3………2……….1…………BOOM

eclps0 08-13-2005 08:30 PM

same crap happened to me :mad:

High Revving 08-13-2005 08:30 PM

Why did it happen to you and did they void it

eclps0 08-13-2005 08:34 PM

they said they will replace as a goodwill nothing more nothing less. A once a time thing hear

High Revving 08-13-2005 08:34 PM

what i dont seem to understand is that in our manual it says anything in the redline(above 8500) can be hazzardous to the engine so why can 1 tech come along and say no the whole mazda rx 8 design team is wrong 6000rpms is the limit

eclps0 08-13-2005 08:35 PM

i know its bullshit i wann hear more from this guy

eclps0 08-13-2005 08:36 PM


Originally Posted by High Revving
what i dont seem to understand is that in our manual it says anything in the redline(above 8500) can be hazzardous to the engine so why can 1 tech come along and say no the whole mazda rx 8 design team is wrong 6000rpms is the limit


might have to change your USER name to low reving since mazda said it abuse

clydejmuggs 08-13-2005 09:03 PM

This is getting out of hand.

How can someone start a thread like this and then someone thinks they want to quote the "entire Mazda rx 8 design team"?

mazda might void my car 08-13-2005 09:10 PM

i am just relaying the message here.

This is what the mazda service guy told me ( the in charge of service at the dealer i went to)

dannobre 08-13-2005 09:33 PM

Like he's likely to know shit!....

most service writers know about as much as the average salesman. Unless it comes from Mazda Tech...or a good Master Mechanic...

it might as well be a rumour about Ben and Jen :D

lurch519 08-13-2005 09:48 PM


Our average engine temp runs up to 230 degrees water boils at 212 degrees, Mazda had to up the pressure to stop the water from boiling hence blown engines. Which means we can blow an engine if u lose more than 3 pounds per inch in our cooling system. Which basically sucks: mad:
im not disagreeing with anything else you are saying, but most all cooling systems are under pressure in our cars. that is why you shouldn't open your radiator when the engine is hot, as the system is under pressure, and by removing the cap, you release the pressure, and voila, it boils over.

ASH8 08-13-2005 09:50 PM

What a load of BULL SHIT!

Just because a "tech", may work at a dealership or even distributor, does not mean he will be a supporter of the product, he or she could be a closet FIAT,FORD or Chrysler fan.

It is just a job to him/her.

A rotary is generally happy to rev all day, its the other parts, tranny, clutch etc, that can stress out at high RPM.

Any car is manufactured to a price, if you want a bullet proof car you will pay, and no one in the end will pay megabucks...they just wont sell them.

Heavy duty clutches/boxes etc, end up giving a passenger car the feel of a truck, then you get other consumer complaints.

Designing and making a car is a compromise to quality/reliabilty/cost.

clydejmuggs 08-13-2005 09:50 PM


Originally Posted by mazda might void my car
i am just relaying the message here.

This is what the mazda service guy told me ( the in charge of service at the dealer i went to)


Since you went though all the fuss to create a different log-in..(all double top secret). Maybe you can tell us what dealer told you this?

Aratinga 08-13-2005 10:29 PM


Originally Posted by mazda might void my car
<snip>
1. I do not have an auto CAR I have manual
<snip>

Generally, when "abuse" is quoted as a reason for denying warranty coverage, it's often because the driver has missed a downshift and over-revved the engine (meant to go from fifth to fourth, went to second by mistake, WAY over-revved). Has this ever happened to you? We all know how temperamental our gearboxes are.


Our average engine temp runs up to 230 degrees water boils at 212 degrees, Mazda had to up the pressure to stop the water from boiling hence blown engines. Which means we can blow an engine if u lose more than 3 pounds per inch in our cooling system. Which basically sucks: mad:
Uhhh, unless you're running pure water in your cooling system, the coolant does NOT boil at 212*F. Addition of antifreeze also increases the boiling point of the solution greatly; that, plus pressurization of the coolant system, keeps the coolant in the liquid state. Loss of pressure = leak in system; loss of coolant through leak = overheated engine. The symptoms of a significant coolant system leak are dramatic; any driver who manages to ignore them to the point that his/her engine is destroyed is incredibly clueless.

demob05 08-14-2005 12:17 AM

What the $#&%??
 

Originally Posted by High Revving
what i dont seem to understand is that in our manual it says anything in the redline(above 8500) can be hazzardous to the engine so why can 1 tech come along and say no the whole mazda rx 8 design team is wrong 6000rpms is the limit

Forgive me if I'm missing something, but wasn't one of the reasons for the AT 8's engines' breaking down so far at a high rate was because they weren't getting revved high enough like its MT brethren?? Isn't low revving the problem itself???

wedge357 08-14-2005 12:37 AM

haha, I can't wait till my dealer tech or whateverhistitleis crap his mouth out next time I go for service. I'm going to take names (literally) and head straight to my lawyer...

two rotors 08-14-2005 06:33 AM

It would be better that you do that than to publish some of the drivel I have read above.And when the lawyer tells you to fly a kite let us know.

OMCWankel 08-14-2005 02:07 PM

There is a couple of things in the original post that are troubling. The RX8, like most new vehicles, has an RPM limiter. This limiter can be set to any value by the factory, and trying to exceed it is impossible with the factory engine control.

Abuse is mostly defined as smoky burnouts, racing, and non-factory engine control.

When was the last time you were at the dealer and were able to talk to a factory engineer?

The original poster is lacking in credability.

Sigma 08-14-2005 02:23 PM


Our average engine temp runs up to 230 degrees water boils at 212 degrees, Mazda had to up the pressure to stop the water from boiling hence blown engines. Which means we can blow an engine if u lose more than 3 pounds per inch in our cooling system. Which basically sucks: mad:
1> Most cars run upwards of 230 degrees. The oil temp of my Mazda6 gets in the 250 range.

2> Water boils at 212, but your coolant isn't water. Duh. That's why you shouldn't run too much water mixed in with your coolant, because it lowers the boiling point too low.

wedge357 08-14-2005 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by two rotors
It would be better that you do that than to publish some of the drivel I have read above.And when the lawyer tells you to fly a kite let us know.

Hah! You don't think South Florida lawyers won't fall over their feet to get an opportunity to take on the "big corporation" on something like this???

Welcome to Litigation, USA.

zoom44 08-14-2005 10:09 PM

the original poster isnt very good at hiding his identity;). this was said to him by the head tech at this dealership when his tranny died. i know he just needed to vent but this thread is really ridiculous so i am closing it.


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