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r-enzyme 01-17-2012 02:04 PM

Thermostat O-Ring / Coolant Leak Question
 
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First off, many thanks to RotaryResurrection, JonG316, 9krpmrx8m, Teamrx8, olddragger and others who helped immensely in removing my engine and replacing it with a reman. I've never worked on engines in my life so this was a big undertaking for me. It definitely wasn't easy but with your help I got it done. I finally drove my car again last Thursday & Friday and it's running great.

Now I'm dealing with a coolant leak that seems to be coming from the thermostat housing. Here is my old therm:

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Here is my question, does #6 in the diagram (O-ring) correspond with the black rubber piece in my picture? Or is there another ring that sits above the black one? What is misleading is that in the diagram the black ring appears to be on the thermostat, but it is not listed to the right. Am I missing an O-ring?

Any help is much appreciated

Silver_Surfer 01-17-2012 02:18 PM

Yes, just replace the T-stat. It comes with a new o-ring.

r-enzyme 01-17-2012 03:23 PM

Sorry if I was unclear.

I installed a brand new thermostat with the reman along with a new ring that matches the one in my photograph.

I'm asking if there is another ring besides the one in the picture that I am possibly missing as the diagram I posted seems to show one ring on the therm and then #6 in addition to that.

Mazmart 01-17-2012 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by r-enzyme (Post 4167909)
Sorry if I was unclear.

I installed a brand new thermostat with the reman along with a new ring that matches the one in my photograph.

I'm asking if there is another ring besides the one in the picture that I am possibly missing as the diagram I posted seems to show one ring on the therm and then #6 in addition to that.

The O ring in the diagram is the only one. It and #6 are the same. Hope that helps.

Paul.

r-enzyme 01-17-2012 04:12 PM

OK thanks. I appreciate it.

I'll have to look elsewhere for the coolant leak...

dannobre 01-17-2012 04:20 PM

make sure the seal fits on like the picture and isn't kinked or it can leak

Silver_Surfer 01-17-2012 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by dannobre (Post 4167970)
make sure the seal fits on like the picture and isn't kinked or it can leak

Yes

Note the rubber tab on the lower right side of the thermostat in the pic. Theres a grove in the housing that it fits into.

9krpmrx8 01-17-2012 04:58 PM

+1 and when in doubt use high temp red RTV :)

r-enzyme 01-17-2012 05:17 PM

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Cool, thanks guys. Upon further review, the leak seems to be coming from here (where I drew the red line):

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Between the lower thermostat housing and the block. The lower thermostat housing came already installed on the reman with a new water pump. If I'm not mistaken, this leak is Mazda's fault.

I guess I'll have to remove it and throw some silicone on it.

halimsteven 01-17-2012 06:13 PM

try to get a gasket for it ....
steven

r-enzyme 01-17-2012 06:21 PM

I actually do have that gasket (unused) because it came with the gasket kit that came with the reman. I didn't use it because I assumed they installed it properly. Clearly I was wrong.

olddragger 01-17-2012 06:38 PM

i always used a black silicone gasket stuff on the thermostat housings--one that goes on the block and the cover. I also do the same for the omp mount. I call it prevenitive
Dude is it just the picture or is one of your omp lines not filled with oil?
Congrats on the install---learned a lot didnt ya!

r-enzyme 01-17-2012 07:19 PM

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Thanks od. I learned a TON.

The omp line that looks empty is brand new. I had to replace that one because it cracked when I was installing the omp.

Is there some secret to removing the bolt that goes here?:

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I've removed all the hoses around it, the thermostat cover and everything else I can remove conveniently. Is there a way to get this out without removing the engine again??

halimsteven 01-17-2012 10:33 PM

you can barely see it, but it's easy if you can use the extension and felx head..just have to pay attention ont he location..i beleives it's 12mm size..i change change my thermostat housing, so
that's how i did it..
steven

TeamRX8 01-17-2012 10:56 PM

Yes, it can be removed and installed in the car, but be careful working around and/or moving the plastic OMP lines as they can get brittle with age and crack if tweaked too hard. One of the brackets that holds them in place mounts between the housing and the mounting bolt. You have to pull it out of the way to get the housing off so just be careful

Do not use rtv unless you like having an unnecessary mess to clean up later. The OE gasket and clean surfaces should seal fine without it. Mine never leaked.

r-enzyme 01-18-2012 11:58 AM

Well, sure enough, once I got it off, I saw there was no gasket installed.

Another win for Mazda..... Moral of the story is that I should have checked it when I got the reman instead of assuming they installed it properly..... I'm hoping this is my final project before I really get to break in this reman.

Silver_Surfer 01-18-2012 12:06 PM

jeez, lucky it was'nt somthing important!

Enaris 09-05-2014 01:21 PM

Thread resurrection!
...Because this is incredibly misleading in the manual and this thread answered my question perfectly.
POWER OF GOOGLE

That is all.


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