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kevinande 10-09-2013 11:20 AM

I hope for her sake that it is clutch related.

9krpmrx8 10-09-2013 11:25 AM

I don't see how, strange and very bad things would have to happen for the clutch to keep the flywheel from spinning. My bet is that the engine is seized. But who knows what methods are being used to determine the current issues because non of what she is doing makes sense.

kevinande 10-09-2013 11:28 AM

I was just trying to be optimistic. I don't see how that could be the issue either.

RIWWP 10-09-2013 11:31 AM

Yeah, that is why I suggested what I did. When my clutch shattered and the metal got lodged in the starter nose, it acted like an anchor on the flywheel. I couldn't rotate the engine very much using the main pulley.

If the engine is seized, she won't be able to rotate it at all.

If there is a clutch problem that is similar to mine, locking the flywheel to the bellhousing via shrapnel, she should be able to get at least a bit of movement out of it.

If the engine can rotate fine with the nose, then there is something wrong with the starter gear engaging with the flywheel.

Identifying if the engine can rotate at all is a fairly important next step.

9krpmrx8 10-09-2013 11:35 AM

Yep, and it takes two seconds to do that.

Noxity 10-10-2013 06:30 AM


Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 4532058)
I don't see how, strange and very bad things would have to happen for the clutch to keep the flywheel from spinning. My bet is that the engine is seized. But who knows what methods are being used to determine the current issues because non of what she is doing makes sense.

If you want, you can ask me about which parts didn't make sense to you so I can explain why they made sense to me. There's probably stuff I left out or didn't say correctly, or in the right order.

Either way, all you get to do is read my situation on here and I'm with the car in person so that probably has something to do with it.

edit:

Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 4532063)
Yep, and it takes two seconds to do that.

that's a relief xD


Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 4532056)
Um, if your flywheel does not spin that is not good all and it's not clutch related. And you said you were a mechanic?

Woah buddyyyy.

Being certified basically means I know how a car's systems work, and I know what each part does and I am able to identify said parts. It's a small stretch to be called a mechanic, but I don't claim to be one. I mentioned the reason why I put it out there in the same post. I wanted everyone to know that I know the basics so I could move forward, hopefully. But being condescending isn't very helpful.... =\

update: there is none lol i haven't done anything new yet.

Noxity 10-10-2013 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by RIWWP (Post 4532061)
Yeah, that is why I suggested what I did. When my clutch shattered and the metal got lodged in the starter nose, it acted like an anchor on the flywheel. I couldn't rotate the engine very much using the main pulley.

If the engine is seized, she won't be able to rotate it at all.

If there is a clutch problem that is similar to mine, locking the flywheel to the bellhousing via shrapnel, she should be able to get at least a bit of movement out of it.

If the engine can rotate fine with the nose, then there is something wrong with the starter gear engaging with the flywheel.

Identifying if the engine can rotate at all is a fairly important next step.

This is helpful however and I thank you for giving me hints and useful information. =)

9krpmrx8 10-10-2013 09:13 AM

Well your method of diagnosis seems odd to me if you are certified and know how a cars basic systems work.

So, did you try and rotate the engine from the front pulley?

Zooms3 10-10-2013 09:26 AM

So why did the motor stop running? Starter - no, battery - no, electrical problem - unlikely. Ignition - maybe, fuel - maybe, internal engine problem - most likely. Time will tell!!!

9krpmrx8 10-10-2013 09:29 AM

Proper troubleshooting methods are key to properly diagnosing anything.

Engine; System troubleshooting

http://foxed.ca/rx7manual/2003mazdar..._S01_0016.html

Noxity 10-10-2013 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 4532415)
Well your method of diagnosis seems odd to me if you are certified and know how a cars basic systems work.

So, did you try and rotate the engine from the front pulley?

I mentioned I haven't done anything yet. =p

Everything I did made perfect sense to me. Car shut off, won't crank back up, so I checked battery, connections, and fuses/relays. I went from there, taking easy things first. Sorry you misunderstood my steps but they helped eliminate easy issues.


I do appreciate that you care about my problem though, and I will keep you updated. I mean let's face it, my first thought when it happened was OMFG MY ENGINE but at the same time, my clutch has been going out and we were adjusting it just two days before this happened so that seems possible too.

ANYTHING is possible.

But if it is my engine, let the fun begin. >_>

Noxity 10-10-2013 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 4532427)
Proper troubleshooting methods are key to properly diagnosing anything.

Engine; System troubleshooting

http://foxed.ca/rx7manual/2003mazdar..._S01_0016.html

I like this link; thank you for it. =)

slvrstreak 10-10-2013 12:45 PM

where in GA are you located?

BigCajun 10-13-2013 10:37 AM

Any progress?


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