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Dmac710 05-14-2008 02:35 PM

Problem with MSP16 recall
 
Yesterday i dropped my car off at mazda for the msp16 recall and they called me today that the car keeps stalling and is not drivable. The sevice manager said i will have to pay 250 for a new set of spark plugs. I had no choice but to agree.

Something smells fishy to me. my car was running fine when i dropped it off. If anyone have any comments or suggestions please do help. Im in a pickle and my wallet is thin.

Thank you

shaunv74 05-14-2008 02:39 PM

Yes. Tell them it ran fine when you brought it in and you're not going to pay for something they screwed up. Spark plugs should not all the sudden cause this problem. Also do a quick search on spark plugs. $250 is a ridiculous amount to pay to change them. Granted they are expensive but it shouldn't be more than $100-$150 for parts and labor.

The recall should include any parts they have to replace to make your car run properly.

Dmac710 05-14-2008 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by shaunv74 (Post 2462596)
Yes. Tell them it ran fine when you brought it in and you're not going to pay for something they screwed up. Spark plugs should not all the sudden cause this problem. Also do a quick search on spark plugs. $250 is a ridiculous amount to pay to change them. Granted they are expensive but it shouldn't be more than $100-$150 for parts and labor.

The recall should include any parts they have to replace to make your car run properly.

wow they really got me good. since i agreed to it there is nothing i can do at this point but wat u said makes sense.

shaunv74 05-14-2008 02:50 PM

Oops. I cross thread posted.

That's crap and I would refuse to pay it and Call Mazda North America. They should authorize the recall work should pay for it or smack the dealer for screwing you.

Go48 05-14-2008 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by Dmac710 (Post 2462602)
wow they really got me good. since i agreed to it there is nothing i can do at this point but wat u said makes sense.

Yeah, you been had by an unscrupulous dealer alright. When you pick up the car let them know you are aware of their scam and that you will be finding another dealer for future service. Then call Mazda Customer Support at the 800 number in your owners manual and let them know how you feel--in a calm, reasoned manner, of course.:D:

xsnipersgox 05-14-2008 03:01 PM

do the work yourself, and always mentaion upfront, anything that is needed that is not covered by the recall, let me know, and ask us if you don't know before agreeing to anything. sparkplug can be next dayed for 100 bucks, and it takes 15 min of ur time to install it. plus, i bet i know what happened. your cat is gonna go next, i bet the dealer flooded ur vehicle.

Dmac710 05-14-2008 08:27 PM

Well i went in to the dealer today to set them straight, but when i got there they said i will be needing a new engine...wtf??? also that my engine had low compression. He said the compression in the rotors were like 5 and 6 and the normal is 8... im so confused, my car was running like a champ. when i took it in. Can someone confirm this please i need help!

shaunv74 05-14-2008 09:06 PM

It's possible. Many of us with '04s have had our engine replaced. There was a recall for thie. If this is the case it should definitely be for free under their recall.

What is your year and mileage?

Dmac710 05-14-2008 09:22 PM

it is a 04 6spd GT with 45k miles, but it was running normal before i brought it in. Yes and they said they are doing it for free. Im afraid they're going to see my cat back and deny my new engine. :[

kevinD1226 05-14-2008 09:29 PM

low compression and the car ran fine?? wtf correct me if im wrong but doesnt low compression=car usually runs like shit??

Dmac710 05-14-2008 09:50 PM


Originally Posted by kevinD1226 (Post 2463442)
low compression and the car ran fine?? wtf correct me if im wrong but doesnt low compression=car usually runs like shit??

yea you read it right, low compression is what they said. But they wouldnt just tell me theyll give me a new engine. i dont know if they really want to help me or screw me over.

Razz1 05-15-2008 12:06 AM

The car keeps stalling because they reset the ECU or disconnected the battery!

shaunv74 05-15-2008 12:07 AM


Originally Posted by kevinD1226 (Post 2463442)
low compression and the car ran fine?? wtf correct me if im wrong but doesnt low compression=car usually runs like shit??

No actually the car can run great with low compression in 1 face of one rotor. Mine ran like a champ up until they replaced the motor for low compression.

Glad to hear it's going to be covered. Count yourself happy that you're getting a new motor just before the warranty expires.:)

I wish all car companies did this.

Dmac710 05-15-2008 12:11 AM

thanks you all have been very helpful, i will definitely update more info when i find out. for now i have a 08 sentra to beat on lol

xsnipersgox 05-15-2008 12:18 AM

hmmm.. how does one do a compression test? i wanna double check my engine before my warranty runs out just for kicks and giggles.

shaunv74 05-15-2008 12:22 AM

Do some research on this forum under engine recall/replacement and premix. You'll learn more about what's up with the '04s. They were not getting enough oil injection originally and so they had premature wear on the side and apex seals. They have since updated the PCM calibrations to inject more oil so we aren't seeing it as much on the '05s and later.


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