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RxJaye 06-27-2007 09:11 PM

Got my bracket replaced today. World of difference in the clutch. Too bad they ordered an engine for it, and my RKE quit working

CnnmnSchnpps 06-30-2007 09:52 PM

Charles, I've been waiting on that bracket for a while also ;-) ... Will be towards the top of the list when you start taking orders!

I am getting some intermittent "sticky" shifter feel and am worried it might be the clutch assy. starting to give.

kwescott 12-21-2007 02:08 PM

mine broke today....78k miles on the car....I just went in last week since I was having the problems the original post talked about....not being able to get into 1st or reverse, not being able to pull the damn car into nuetral even with the clutch pedal depressed all the way to the floor.

Read other threads suggesting that it was the adjustment of the pedal. Went into the dealer and was told that my extended warranty doesn't cover any of the hydraulic systems. I asked them to look at it anyways, suggesting to them that it may just ne the adjustment....could they check to see if it was in spec.

They called back an hour later and said that they adjusted the pedal "beyond spec" to get the clutch to work properly. About 1k miles later, driving last night, shift into second....the loudest "SNAP" I have ever heard. I was like, WTF. I looked at my wife and said "did you hear that?"...she said "Yes, what was that". "I think it was my clutch pedal"...I turned on my neons and looked at the pedal...it was seriously sitting ontop of my brake pedal....

I'm going into the dealer this afternoon....

Jedi54 12-21-2007 02:21 PM

holy shit keith!

nycgps 12-21-2007 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by kwescott (Post 2204236)
mine broke today....78k miles on the car....I just went in last week since I was having the problems the original post talked about....not being able to get into 1st or reverse, not being able to pull the damn car into nuetral even with the clutch pedal depressed all the way to the floor.

Read other threads suggesting that it was the adjustment of the pedal. Went into the dealer and was told that my extended warranty doesn't cover any of the hydraulic systems. I asked them to look at it anyways, suggesting to them that it may just ne the adjustment....could they check to see if it was in spec.

They called back an hour later and said that they adjusted the pedal "beyond spec" to get the clutch to work properly. About 1k miles later, driving last night, shift into second....the loudest "SNAP" I have ever heard. I was like, WTF. I looked at my wife and said "did you hear that?"...she said "Yes, what was that". "I think it was my clutch pedal"...I turned on my neons and looked at the pedal...it was seriously sitting ontop of my brake pedal....

I'm going into the dealer this afternoon....

I was lucky, my bracket decided to *break* when I just got in front of my GF's house, Engine off, Parking Brake On, and Finally when I try to press the clutch in so I can put it into 1st gear to lock the car, *CRACK*, it broke.

Tow the car to dealership the next morning, when I was on the Tow Truck, I was mad sad that I have to tow my car @ such early age, all the ppl on the streets were looking and probably wonder like *wtf* ....

you're out of warranty right ? (Your extended warranty does not cover it anyway)

No need to go to the dealership, your bracket broke, just like mine, I was in warranty so its covered, but Mazda Tech Line being a jerk about it said its one time repair only, well I dont really care what Mazda Tech line saids if they not fixing it next time(assume Im still in the B to B warranty period), I will sue their ass

I guess you might want to just buy a new bracket and install it yourself, it cost about 170 bux including shipping.

oh btw, my Bracket broke when I was 36K something miles. now Im almost 37. Yep, about 2 weeks ago.

nycgps 12-21-2007 02:42 PM

For your Reference, here

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...ghlight=clutch

I took some pictures and a video, but its all on my phone. I have to find a chance to upload it to my comp ... hmm

BoosTED 12-21-2007 06:16 PM

Speaking of clutches, in the cold, the first few shifts, consisting of first and reverse. I noticed that if I pump the brake before pushing the clutch in it does not give me any trouble. :dunno: I thought this was due to air in the hydralic system but I have speedbleeders and bled them a few times in the order that the shop manual says to.

When I drive I don't let off the gas before starting to press the clutch.

If I do this I only have to press the clutch pedal half way to the floor. Saves time and gives a much smoother transition. :)

Sad to hear all the clutch brackets breaking lately.

kwescott 12-21-2007 06:29 PM

4 Attachment(s)
here are some pics...I took one from underneath, but can't find where the break is. When I picked up my car, they said they didn't have the part in stock, and that they wouldn't be able to get one until the new year...Mazda is on vacation....I guess?

I asked him, with the number of cars reporting the same "faulty weld" failure, how many cars are needed for Mazda to call a safety recall on certain vehicles within a certain VIN range....? He said that would be something we could proceed with after the holiday. I'm on vacation from work so don't really need to drive the car....so I'm willing to go through the process with Mazda.

Many of you don't know the problems I ahve had with my car since it was new....but everyone from the forums who has driven my car has always commented that my clutch has been different. I own two RX8's, and I can tell you, without question...that the two cars are different.

Here are some pics I took today while down at the dealer...3 of my car, and one of a stock/brand new 8.

Can anyone point out a brake, or where my clutch bracket broke...I can't see it.

r-enzyme 01-17-2008 10:48 PM

I can't see it either, any update on this?

El Kabong 01-17-2008 11:00 PM

Is this a design defect that should be reported to NHTSA?

- Kabong

Razz1 01-17-2008 11:05 PM

Check with Charles R Hill

The BHR gang will have a new bracket in a month. Heavy duty.

nycgps 01-17-2008 11:26 PM


Originally Posted by El Kabong (Post 2248627)
Is this a design defect that should be reported to NHTSA?

- Kabong

it is a TOTAL design defect.

I reported mine already.

Please whoever have/had a Clutch Bracket problem, please report this problem to NHTSA. YOu dont want any other 8 member, or you, to have an accident because of this right ?

kwescott 01-18-2008 12:16 PM

Here area couple of pics I posted after pulling the bracket out of the car.

https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...9&d=1199486673

https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...6&d=1199486673

there are two spots that failed.....in this blurry pic, you see one of the failures near my index finger. The other failure is on the opposite side. There is a hole right next to my thumb, but it is the hole further to the right.

https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...8&d=1199486673

The failure next to my index finger was the Snap/Breakage that seperated the bracket from the floor board. The failure next to my thumb is the one that resulted in the loud squeaks I was hearing every time I depressed my clutch pedal.

ca18detsilvia 01-18-2008 02:27 PM

This same thing happened to me, just started to feel loose but not really enough to cause much concern. It actually broke when I was pulling into VIR to watch a few races, I made it to the parking lot w/out using the clutch. Thankfully I had my tools in the trunk and took the whole clutch assembly out in the parking lot. I walked around with it untill I found a formula mazda/ford team with a welder. We bent it back and welded the heck out of it, I dont think I'll be having any more problems with it. The aluminum they use for the bracket is paper thin and there are just a few spot welds holding it to the clutch assembly that are prone to pulling out. Its a shity design, I originally called mazda to see how much it was and after seeing the part and hearing the price there was no way I was going to pay that. I'm just glad I was at a racetrack when it happened

kwescott 01-18-2008 02:34 PM

300 for the part.....


if you have 10 minutes, maybe you can file a complaint. We are trying to get everyone who has had this failure, to report it to the NTHSB. This is something that Mazda should correct. I filed my report this morning.

wampa007 06-22-2010 02:16 PM

Report broken pedal to the NHTSA
 
If your clutch pedal has broken please do everyone a favor and report it as a safety issue to the NHTSA. Not only does that increase the odds that there will be a recall and we get reimbursed, but it may prevent someone from getting killed. Also, it will encourage manufacturers to make better products.

NoRotorNoMotor 07-09-2010 10:22 PM

My Clutch broke today!!! :Peace:

Thanks god it was only a couple of miles from my house.
I was able to get just enough "travel" out of it to nurse the car home in 2nd gear.

And also thank god for this forum and the fact that I already have a replacement pedal from BHR. (Thanks Charles!)

I do plan on bringing the broken pedal into my local dealer ... since I asked them about this problem several months ago and they said they haven't heard about it.. I had them "check" the pedal and they said it was fine.

Looks like I know what I'm doing tomorrow.....

AJRx892 07-10-2010 05:00 PM

mine broke last week!

and i was on vacation in pensacola fla well visiting family in the home town i mean but there a beach there so i guess a vacation but alright

i drove it all the way home and it got worse once i got close so for now it is parked until its fixed! what a pain

Grace_Excel 07-12-2010 03:42 AM

Squeaked for a year and it finally broke last week...
 
Here's mine, the Clutch Pedal Bracket broke last week. I couldn't get a clear view at first because my driver side door was locked from the inside and out due to a broken spring in the mechanism. I'm going to remove mine and have it welded tomorrow... By the way, I've always noticed the squeaking and thought it's only the spring re-tractor since I bought my 2004 RX-8 last year with 104,000 miles; hence, the rust build up on the upper section of the break. The bracket's one of the few major issues I have with the car.


Originally Posted by kwescott (Post 2249547)
300 for the part.....


if you have 10 minutes, maybe you can file a complaint. We are trying to get everyone who has had this failure, to report it to the NTHSB. This is something that Mazda should correct. I filed my report this morning.


paulmasoner 07-12-2010 04:18 AM


Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill (Post 3631566)

Be careful during that pedal swap as there are some sharp edges down there. Most first-timers can scratch their hands up a bit.

:doh:

yep, i cut my hands up good taking it out to weld. going back in was easier.

and i learned that i need to learn to weld better:suspect:

Grace_Excel 07-13-2010 11:52 AM

I finally had a chance to replace mine, I ended up buying a new one from the dealership, $158.98. Took about an hour to install and it was really tight under there specially if you
don't have a long 12mm socket to remove the nut where the bracket broke. I had to modify the clutch switch because it wouldn't fully engage if I press the pedal to start the engine.
So I removed the spring inside the switch and closed the circuit. Like in Japan, I don't have to use the clutch to start the engine! Is that a safety issue?

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._5759723_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._6721758_n.jpg

J8635621 07-13-2010 11:56 AM

So you replaced the known weak link without fixing the issue? I hope you dont have the same problem again.

If you have a 6 speed, that is a safety issue. If the car gets left in gear for some reason it could take off when you start it and possibly hit something. I'm pretty sure it has been said on this forum numerous times about how to set up that switch so that it engages correctly if you want to go back and fix it.

Grace_Excel 07-13-2010 12:11 PM

It's a band aid...
 
I needed to have the vehicle in working condition, it's the only means of transportation I have. Once I have the time, I'll have the bracket reinforced.
In the meantime, I'm going to look for some kind of extended pad that presses the switch. Apparently, pressing the pedal to the floor does not fully
push the button for the switch, it only travels half-way. I had to press it with my finger and turn the key at the same time to start.

Thanks for the note.


Originally Posted by j8635621 (Post 3633122)
So you replaced the known weak link without fixing the issue? I hope you dont have the same problem again.

If you have a 6 speed, that is a safety issue. If the car gets left in gear for some reason it could take off when you start it and possibly hit something. I'm pretty sure it has been said on this forum numerous times about how to set up that switch so that it engages correctly if you want to go back and fix it.


dannobre 07-13-2010 12:12 PM

The switch has an adjustable actuator....pull out carefully on it and it will ratchet out and work correctly

Grace_Excel 07-13-2010 12:21 PM

I thought it did when I removed the spring, I'll inspect and do the adjustment later.


Originally Posted by dannobre (Post 3633151)
The switch has an adjustable actuator....pull out carefully on it and it will ratchet out and work correctly



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