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Chris 11-03-2007 10:34 PM

Major Power Lose
 
I dont know what went wrong but the car seems to really struggle al; the way to 5k rpm's... Anyone have similiar problems or any idea what it could be... could this be some kind of vacuum leak? Im all up for opinions... I am going to mazda early this week

Nemesis8 11-03-2007 10:42 PM

Sounds like a clogged cat or the grim reaper has come for your engine. Still under warranty?

Chris 11-03-2007 10:48 PM

lets hope so... i dont have any mods to the engine and my engine should be covered to 60k miles

nycgps 11-03-2007 10:53 PM

Engine to 60K, Cat I think is 100K.

rtzrx8 11-09-2007 12:14 AM

the basic warranty is 60k or 4 years right? just making sure i just bought my 04' rx8 a month ago

peterlemonjello 11-09-2007 07:16 AM

4 years 50k is the normal warranty. The power train is covered for 5 years 60k. Cats are covered for 100+k due to EPA mandates.

mysql101 11-09-2007 07:18 AM

yeah, sounds like the cat, or your engine. the cat being more likely.

good luck

zoom44 11-09-2007 10:15 AM

coils

Bran 11-14-2007 05:20 PM

I just replaced my coils, plugs & wires less than 4k ago and I have power loss...marble in can sound, it stalled out on me again this morning at a stop sign....all in all runs like crap. It could be anything but it seems from what I have read on here that the least thing that goes wrong with our cars it automatically assumed that it's the coils... I have continuously had this problem since I bought my car and every trip to the dealership turns into $500 bill and no resolution or explaination, call MNAO and they recommend taking the car back to the dealership... go back to dealership they can't find the problem......

2tone 11-16-2007 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by Bran (Post 2140607)
I just replaced my coils, plugs & wires less than 4k ago and I have power loss...marble in can sound, it stalled out on me again this morning at a stop sign....all in all runs like crap. It could be anything but it seems from what I have read on here that the least thing that goes wrong with our cars it automatically assumed that it's the coils... I have continuously had this problem since I bought my car and every trip to the dealership turns into $500 bill and no resolution or explaination, call MNAO and they recommend taking the car back to the dealership... go back to dealership they can't find the problem......

whoa, any answer on this?? i JUST had this happen 30 minutes ago for the first time. had a problem with my cat 2 yrs ago, they replaced it. felt the loss of power in 1st and 2nd today, and a slight marble-in-can sound briefly. my lease is up in january and i was totally going to buy it out, but this freaks the hell outta me. i guess i'll take it in next week and see what they say...

alnielsen 11-16-2007 08:11 PM

It could still be the cat. I have 38K mi. on my car and have replaced the cat 4 times.

2tone 11-16-2007 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by alnielsen (Post 2143833)
It could still be the cat. I have 38K mi. on my car and have replaced the cat 4 times.

jigga what? for real? i guess it could be a whole bunch of different problems. i'll be taking mine in monday i guess to see what's up.

my lease is up in january, i've never had a problem with my 8, but based on others' experiences, this freaks me out. even if it's worst-case and i need a new engine, apparently there's no guarantee the new one will do better!!! i'm thinking about the ms3...

Bran 11-17-2007 09:09 AM

the dealer told me Thursday MNAO is not addressing these problems they know about them and don't know what it is or how to fix it. They are currently dealing with the no/slow start issues and if you are out of warranty then MNAO will not cover any of it, no matter how many times you have taken your car in with these issues. I have taken mine in for these issues since 18K and now have 80K so MNAO will not do anything for me. The manager is supposed to call me when a regional rep is in the area ( which I have been requesting for over a year ) however he doubts it will make MNAO sway on the decision to help with repairs or anything else. So, my goal it to get rid of the car ASAP! The first reasonable offer I get the sob is gone!!! I've been patient for over 3 years... my patience has run out. Good luck to the rest of the RX8 owners.

nycgps 11-17-2007 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by Bran (Post 2144258)
the dealer told me Thursday MNAO is not addressing these problems they know about them and don't know what it is or how to fix it. They are currently dealing with the no/slow start issues and if you are out of warranty then MNAO will not cover any of it, no matter how many times you have taken your car in with these issues. I have taken mine in for these issues since 18K and now have 80K so MNAO will not do anything for me. The manager is supposed to call me when a regional rep is in the area ( which I have been requesting for over a year ) however he doubts it will make MNAO sway on the decision to help with repairs or anything else. So, my goal it to get rid of the car ASAP! The first reasonable offer I get the sob is gone!!! I've been patient for over 3 years... my patience has run out. Good luck to the rest of the RX8 owners.

There are people with over 100K still no issues.

Bran 11-18-2007 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by nycgps (Post 2144315)
There are people with over 100K still no issues.

And I think that's wonderful however for the good many of us owners that have had nothing but reported problems I believe MNAO should make some effort to fix the issues.

rodmeister 11-18-2007 08:00 PM

Bran,

What year is your car? I feel your pain. I'm on my second engine and had my coils, spark plugs, O2 sensor, MAS replaced before it ran right. I live in fear of being stranded.

tajabaho1 11-18-2007 08:15 PM

season for dying rx8s or someshit? it seems so many people have this happening lately

my case is the coils died on me........

Genom 11-19-2007 08:27 AM

Well, I have been out of the country for most of the last year and a half and have been catching up. Aparently there was a recall a year ago where you could get the whole engine replaced. Of course, I am now at 63,000 miles, and in the last 2 days the car has gone from fine to almost undrivable. While accelerating there are all kinds of noises coming from the engine, and every so often while cruising, or stopped at a light, or braking, (IE, anytime) the engine gets VERY rough, loses power, and stalls out as soon as I let go of the gas. If it was just loss of power I'd say coils since that happened to me a few eyars ago, but this definitely feels a lot more serious. Taking it in tomorrow morning, and I fear for news.

*sigh*

Bran 11-19-2007 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by rodmeister (Post 2145903)
Bran,

What year is your car? I feel your pain. I'm on my second engine and had my coils, spark plugs, O2 sensor, MAS replaced before it ran right. I live in fear of being stranded.

I have an 04 AT. I understand where your coming from, I'm still on my original engine because the dealership ( which has since been shut down too many customer complaints ) jerked me around for so long.
1 ) I'm tire of losing money due to being broke down ( outside sales ) you'd be surprised about the kind of things that go on in your neighborhood that you normally don't see because your at work.
2 ) I'm tired of every trip to A dealer ( I'm on #3 ) it's this that or the other and a bill anywhere from $500 to $2000. Remember the movie "Money Pit"
3 ) I biggest fear is the car stalling on a major hwy and being ran over.
4 ) I had been running the BG44K & BGMOA as of last week. The car had been running better meaning hasn't stalled on me for a few days but today I pulled out onto the hwy when I got a break.... I should have had plenty of time to get up the road however I couldn't get the car over 30 MPH before A 3500 Dodge dually had to swerve to the other lane between 2 other vehicles to keep from running me over.
How can I even think of trading or selling the car to get rid of it knowing someone else and possibly one of the more common 16 - 18 yr RX8 buyers are going to end up buying the car? If I turned the news on and seen a kid dead in a car accident I would assume the car wouldn't go & lost power or stalled out and I would feel responsible, yet MNAO don't seem to give a shit one way or the other!

Bran 11-19-2007 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by Genom (Post 2146489)
Well, I have been out of the country for most of the last year and a half and have been catching up. Aparently there was a recall a year ago where you could get the whole engine replaced. Of course, I am now at 63,000 miles, and in the last 2 days the car has gone from fine to almost undrivable. While accelerating there are all kinds of noises coming from the engine, and every so often while cruising, or stopped at a light, or braking, (IE, anytime) the engine gets VERY rough, loses power, and stalls out as soon as I let go of the gas. If it was just loss of power I'd say coils since that happened to me a few eyars ago, but this definitely feels a lot more serious. Taking it in tomorrow morning, and I fear for news.

*sigh*

Everything I have had but mine started at around 18K and yet nothing other than if we figure it out MNAO won't cover it. Good Luck you're out of warranty so whatever it is and if you get an answer I doubt your gonna like it. I would like to know what & if they say your problems are???

nycgps 11-19-2007 11:46 PM


Originally Posted by Bran (Post 2145704)
And I think that's wonderful however for the good many of us owners that have had nothing but reported problems I believe MNAO should make some effort to fix the issues.

People will only whine when there are problems.

When was the last time that you told everybody about something good happened to you, you probably did, but probably to few of the closest friends/family members.

Bad stuff? wow, you probably gonna call everybody, even the ones you havent seen for the last 20 years.

Yep, thats how human works.

So in your case ... how about go to another dealer ?

Genom 11-20-2007 10:02 AM

Well, considering that the problems in the recall describe my issue perfectly, I am really hoping that it's related and it doesnt become a fight, as some folk on the forums where able to get the work done. Recalls dont expire with warranty so they have to honor it anyways. The problem is I fear they are going to try to wriggle out of it and make me pay for a new engine. Should I be wrong I will gladly post glowing reviews about how painless it all was, but my previous experience with MNAO and warranty work is otherwise. And the fact that I have serious engine problems on a car that has been very well taken care of, and is only at 63000 miles, is in and of itself troubling.

Razz1 11-20-2007 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by Bran (Post 2140607)
I just replaced my coils, plugs & wires less than 4k ago and I have power loss...marble in can sound, it stalled out on me again this morning at a stop sign....all in all runs like crap. It could be anything but it seems from what I have read on here that the least thing that goes wrong with our cars it automatically assumed that it's the coils... I have continuously had this problem since I bought my car and every trip to the dealership turns into $500 bill and no resolution or explaination, call MNAO and they recommend taking the car back to the dealership... go back to dealership they can't find the problem......

the marble sound is normal.

And since your near Georgia, why don't you take it to our resident experts down there? One of them works at a dealership.

Get the true story and get it fixed correctly.

Sorry, it's a unique car and engine. Only a few good mechanics out there.

Bran 11-21-2007 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by nycgps (Post 2148135)
People will only whine when there are problems.

When was the last time that you told everybody about something good happened to you, you probably did, but probably to few of the closest friends/family members.

Bad stuff? wow, you probably gonna call everybody, even the ones you havent seen for the last 20 years.

Yep, thats how human works.

So in your case ... how about go to another dealer ?

So, exactly how many dealers do I need to take my car to besides the 3rd dealer that I'm currently working with???? I have been taking the car to a dealer 2 1/2 hours away for service since the dealer that was here in town wasn't properly trained and couldn't do a thing with the car again that dealer was closed by MNAO because of the customer complaints for that dealership on service work! Now, with the 3rd dealer I currently am working with ( just opened a month ago ) not getting much help out of them since I seem to know more about the car than their tech quoted by the service manger there! With the expense of these cars yes I expect it to run properly. If I drove an old beater car no I doubt I'd complain that much however I bought it new 4 miles on it I have taken it in from the first time I had trouble and have yet gotten NO resolution. You can call it whining whatever you want but I would put a $100 bill on this, if you were in my position you wouldn't just whine you'd be bitching and raising hell!

Bran 11-21-2007 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by Razz1 (Post 2148540)
the marble sound is normal.

And since your near Georgia, why don't you take it to our resident experts down there? One of them works at a dealership.

Get the true story and get it fixed correctly.

Sorry, it's a unique car and engine. Only a few good mechanics out there.

I would take it where ever I needed to if that's what it takes to get it fixed. I took it to a dealer in Charleston SC that's about 2 1/2 3 hours from me..... MNAO needs to step up to the plate... and I think the apologies need to come from MNAO not you, however I appreciate it thanks!


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