Help! - Failed state inspection
I've brought my '04 (only 35k miles) in for the NJ state inspection few days ago and find out it has failed the emission tests. Specifically, part of the inspection report reads like this
================================================== ====== OBD/Emission: FAIL OBD System - Readiness Status: Catalytic Converters: NOT READY Heated Catalytic Converters: UNUSED Oxygen Sensors: READY Oxygen Sensors - Heaters: READY EGR Systems: UNUSED Secondary Air Injection: NOT READY Evaporative System: NOT READY Fuel System: READY Engine Misfire: READY A/C Refrigerant: UNUSED Comprehensive Component: READY Overall Readiness Result: FAIL Overall OBD System Result: FAIL ================================================== ======= And the inspector has highlighted all those that shows "NOT READY" and "FAIL" and told me those needed to be fixed up in 45 days. Anyone here has any clue as to what may have been wrong or broken?? I hope its not the cat since it would be one expensive repair!! :sad: |
Did you replace or disconnect the battery before going?
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random question but are you sure you have a catalytic converter on your car? (not sure if you're the original owner)
if so, maybe it's broken? |
>Did you replace or disconnect the battery before going?
I think the problem has more to do with mechanical rather than just electronics, so clearing the "codes" - which I don't have - won't really help the problem I believe. >are you sure you have a catalytic converter on your car? I am the original owner so I know it has the cat in there. >are you sure you have a catalytic converter on your car? That's what I am worrying about. I have the impression that the cat will last much longer than 35k miles. But anyway what could have possibly caused its premature failure?! I always use unleaded fuel and I have never done any modifications on the exhaust/intake system either. :dunno: Regardless, I believe Mazda will cover the cat under a 8 yr/90k+ miles warranty in case the cat is really broken. |
Originally Posted by RotaryZZ
(Post 3408712)
>Did you replace or disconnect the battery before going?
I think the problem has more to do with mechanical rather than just electronics, so clearing the "codes" - which I don't have - won't really help the problem I believe. If you disconnected the battery before going, you'll receive "not ready" failures because the car requires a few drive cycles to generate data the emission people need to gather. |
ic. Anyway, it's too late now. I need to show them with repair receipts and reords and go thru the emission tests again.
So anyway, what possibly seems to be the problems for the emission system on my car? Do you think there is really some problem with the cat :scared: |
dude go to another place after a couple days. or find some one in yur area that can get yu one with out all the hassle..
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Originally Posted by RotaryZZ
(Post 3409227)
ic. Anyway, it's too late now. I need to show them with repair receipts and reords and go thru the emission tests again.
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Do you have a CEL? If there is a problem with the cat. or the cat sensor it should throw a CEL. causing you to fail the test.
If you don't have a CEL then you probably need to put 3-4 cold start to full warm up drive cycles on the car. If you do have a CEL bring the car to autozone and have them read the code. Chances are you have a bad cat. sensor and it needs to be replaced. Otherwise the cat. itself may be bad. The dealer can check as well. You have a 6yr 80K emissions warranty if you have a bad cat. so it should be replaced under warranty. I had a bad sensor that caused me to fail once I replaced it I passed with no problems. Otherwise it is common for the cat. to fail but it should significantly degrade your performance so you'd notice it. |
Originally Posted by ilovemy8
(Post 3409240)
dude go to another place after a couple days. or find some one in yur area that can get yu one with out all the hassle..
" THE RESULTS OF THIS INSPECTION HAVE BEEN TRANSMITTED TO MVS " Private shops spend a large amount of money to be connected to the MVS system and to acquire the state approved equipment to preform inspections. One needs to have a really good relationship with the private shop in order to get them to overlook a legit problem and pass a car. At this time the OP also has a red failure sticker in his windshield so he will have issue were he to pass a roadside inspection which does happen in this state. I do advise him to find out what is the issue with his car and post back here. |
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Originally Posted by LGukas
(Post 3409392)
You don't have to show them the receipts... You can repair by yourself. If you know what is wrong with Your car...
Emissions repairs If your vehicle fails for emissions violations, you must have the repairs completed by a registered Emissions Repair Facility (ERF). For your convenience, you may find an ERF using our online search or by calling 1-888-NJ-MOTOR. When you fail the inspection, you will get an Emissions Repair Form and a Vehicle Inspection Report that will help determine what caused the emissions problem. You can download the Emission Repair Form [pdf] if you did not receive it. If your vehicle did not pass the enhanced emissions inspection, it is producing more pollutants than the standard for its model year - check if it is still under warranty and contact your manufacturer. |
Originally Posted by expo1
(Post 3409429)
That is not correct for NJ, From THIS LINK He will also need to fill out the attached form.
Emissions repairs If your vehicle fails for emissions violations, you must have the repairs completed by a registered Emissions Repair Facility (ERF). For your convenience, you may find an ERF using our online search or by calling 1-888-NJ-MOTOR. When you fail the inspection, you will get an Emissions Repair Form and a Vehicle Inspection Report that will help determine what caused the emissions problem. You can download the Emission Repair Form [pdf] if you did not receive it. If your vehicle did not pass the enhanced emissions inspection, it is producing more pollutants than the standard for its model year - check if it is still under warranty and contact your manufacturer. |
wow ok I thought that the law is the same like in CT.
Do you have a CEL? If there is a problem with the cat. or the cat sensor it should throw a CEL. causing you to fail the test. |
Originally Posted by LGukas
(Post 3409495)
wow ok I thought that the law is the same like in CT.
hmm what about this.. I don't have a CEL and I have a problem with cat. (the dealer gonna replace the cat under warranty) |
I don't have the CEL on and yet the inspection indicated it is a OBD/Emission failure.
Btw, is NJ having an enhanced emission test now?? Oh well, I am gonna take it to the dealer to check that out and just hope it is still under warranty. Speaking of dealers in NJ, which one is more capable and honest? I've heard a number of good reviews about Wayne Mazda, but those remarks are quite some time ago already. The closest to mine is Open Road in Morristown which they just opened for business recently. Guess they're the same business group as the Open Road Mazda in Edison. |
Wayne Mazda and when you call to make an apppointment tell them you want Kevin to check out your car
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Any one of service rep at Wayne Mazda you would recommend and that I should ask to talk to?
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Originally Posted by RotaryZZ
(Post 3409757)
I don't have the CEL on and yet the inspection indicated it is a OBD/Emission failure.
Btw, is NJ having an enhanced emission test now?? Oh well, I am gonna take it to the dealer to check that out and just hope it is still under warranty. Speaking of dealers in NJ, which one is more capable and honest? I've heard a number of good reviews about Wayne Mazda, but those remarks are quite some time ago already. The closest to mine is Open Road in Morristown which they just opened for business recently. Guess they're the same business group as the Open Road Mazda in Edison. Give Wayne Mazda a call and ask |
But Kevin is the technician only not the service rep right?
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Just wanted to chime in, but CT inspections are a joke. If you pass emissions, you pass inspection technically speaking. There is no safety inspection required.
In NY this would not fly, you have to have a safety inspection. In other words your brakes, lights, so forth can be absolute shit, and you still pass. Not sure how many other states are like this. |
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