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Hlim90 07-02-2010 02:55 PM

Guys! Help!
 
Hey guys! I just got my Rx-8 last week and i just registered here! :)..

Having one problem with my car now though , the check engine light is now lighting up and i took it over to Mazda to have it checking out. The catalytic converter is running inefficient. I did some research and found out that Walker or Magnaflow's Universal catalytic converters would not fit the car... Where could i get a factory one? I would just need the Catalytic Converter for the car... The dealer's said i would have to spend about 1400 or 1700 just for all the parts.

EDZRIDE 07-02-2010 03:22 PM

What about the smog component warranty?

Mazurfer 07-02-2010 03:58 PM

Yeah, you know that Mazda has to cover the CAT for 8 years 80k miles right? It's a federal emissions law!

Hlim90 07-02-2010 06:19 PM

Unfortunately mine is under a salvaged title =(

Mazurfer 07-02-2010 06:39 PM

Well................take off the CAT and just run with a midpipe. Yeah, you will get the O2 CEL, but a lot of people live with it. Either that or check the FS threads and see if anyone is selling a used CAT.

dannobre 07-02-2010 06:57 PM

Pound the catalyst out of it :)

Mazurfer 07-02-2010 07:12 PM

^................yeah.............that will work as well! :)

Krazed_Rx8 07-02-2010 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by Mazurfer (Post 3622277)
Well................take off the CAT and just run with a midpipe. Yeah, you will get the O2 CEL, but a lot of people live with it. Either that or check the FS threads and see if anyone is selling a used CAT.

Good advice!

Hlim90 07-03-2010 12:00 AM

Hmm , but i think i asked some mechanics about doing that , they said it would be bad for the engine or something?

Jpaul26 09-03-2011 09:49 AM

I have a similar problem, but you know Mazda dealerships wanna charge first and ask questions later. How do I ensure that they'll actually fix this for me under warranty?

monchie 09-03-2011 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by Jpaul26 (Post 4070227)
I have a similar problem, but you know Mazda dealerships wanna charge first and ask questions later. How do I ensure that they'll actually fix this for me under warranty?


Usually, they should have a written estimate and they will check if your car still falls under the warranty clause.

dynamho 09-03-2011 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by Hlim90 (Post 3622483)
Hmm , but i think i asked some mechanics about doing that , they said it would be bad for the engine or something?

Bad for the environment, but not for the engine. Engine gets to fart without any obstruction, and that's always good.

If your state does emissions testing, you may need a cat eventually though.

bonestockrotary 09-03-2011 09:26 PM

I love Mississippi. No emissions law. Running a cat less midpipe is not bad for your engine. They might've been referring to needing back pressure. I imagine with the restrictive exhaust ports on the renesis, and a muffler, you have all the back pressure you could want

vlad0691 09-03-2011 11:45 PM

Just a random thought, and I don't know if it'll work... but... A lot of the rb guys do it and I did it on my old car. If you're running a catless exhaust exhaust and you don't want the O2 sensor CEL on all the time, couldn't you get spark plug defoulers and drill a hole in one of them, screw them into each other, screw them onto your rear O2 and then put it back into the bung? What it does is it takes the O2 sensor further away from the exhaust so that it thinks it's reading catted exhaust, therefore no CEL! Any thoughts?! :dunno:

dannobre 09-03-2011 11:47 PM

Search..we have beaten this to death ;)

Won't work...the pcm is too smart....

vlad0691 09-03-2011 11:48 PM

Haha damn it! I've never seen it mentioned many places so I just assumed no one had ever tried it. But oh well, it was worth a shot...

RIWWP 09-03-2011 11:53 PM


Originally Posted by bonestockrotary (Post 4070482)
I love Mississippi. No emissions law. Running a cat less midpipe is not bad for your engine. They might've been referring to needing back pressure. I imagine with the restrictive exhaust ports on the renesis, and a muffler, you have all the back pressure you could want

Just 1 point.

Piston engines need "back pressure" for savenging exhaust gases from the piston chamber more efficiently. (not actually back pressure, but exhaust flow restriction to keep temps high, which in turn keeps exhaust velocity high and "pulls" the exhaust more completely from the cylinder. Obviously there is a sweet spot, you can have too much restriction of course.)

Rotary engines do not need this scavenging effect, and "back pressure" does nothing for us except rob power at some level or another. You want the exhaust as open as you can possibly get it.


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