zoom44

there's been an update to the "room fuse" TSB. it looks to me like the only thing that changed is that the Mazda3 has now been included. here it is just in case.

09-023/04 2004 MAZDA3, 2004 RX8 - ROOM FUSE REMOVAL / INSTALLATION CAUTION
Note: This bulletin supersedes the following TSB(s): 09-016/03. Please update your records accordingly.

BULLETIN NOTE

This bulletin supersedes 09-016/03 issued 12/18/2003. The APPLICABLE MODEL(S)/VINS has been modified.
APPLICABLE MODEL(S)/VINS

2004 Mazda3

2004 RX-8
DESCRIPTION
DTC P0562 and or P0882 may be stored in PCM memory after replacing the room fuse or removing and installing the battery cables.

The DVD Navigation system may not operate properly after replacing the room fuse or removing and installing the battery cables.

Observe the following points when servicing the room fuse or battery cables:


Make sure the ignition key is in the "OFF" position before removing / installing the room fuse or battery cables.
NOTE: If the ignition key is "ON" or in "ACC", when the room fuse or battery cables are removed and installed, the PCM may misjudge the system voltage or the battery voltage and DTC's P0562 (System Voltage Low KAM) or P0882 (Battery Voltage Low) may be stored in PCM memory and the MIL may illuminate. If P0562 pr P0882 are stored during PDI or maintenance and battery voltage is correct, clear the DTC(s).

NOTE: Record customer's radio pre-set stations before disconnecting battery cables.


Vehicles with Mazda DVD-Navigation: After installing the room fuse or battery cables, turn the ignition key to the "ACC" position for at least 5-seconds.
NOTE: After reconnecting battery cables and performing procedure, re-enter customer's radio pre-set stations.

NOTE: The Navigation system records initial voltage the first time the ignition is turned to "ACC" after the room fuse or battery cables are connected. If the ignition key is turned to start immediately after power is restored to the Navigation system, the following symptoms may occur when pressing the Navigation system "OPEN" button:


The display opens fully, but the screen remains blank. "TILT" and "CLOSE" do not work.

The display opens fully, then folds back slightly and the screen remains blank. "TILT" and "CLOSE" do not work.

The display opens fully and the screen comes on normally, but "TILT" and "CLOSE" do not work.

The display opens fully, then folds back slightly and the screen comes on normally, but "TILT" and "CLOSE" do not work.
If the above conditions are encountered with the DVD Navigation system after installing the room fuse or battery cables, perform the following steps:

Turn the ignition key to "OFF".

Remove the room fuse.

Wait more than 3-minutes, then install the room fuse.

Turn the ignition key to "ACC", and wait at least 5-seconds.
NOTE: Do not start the engine.


Turn the ignition key to "OFF".

RosenthalMazda

All it did was add the Mazda3 to an existing bulletin for the 8.

MyLadyDeb

okay - my 2 cents worth. I live in sunny south florida so it's hot all the time. Back in January I noticed the fluctuation. On my first visit I mentioned it to my "guy" and he said he felt it too when he took the 8 home for the weekend. Said I'm sure they'll come out with a tsb on it. Well not more than a week later I read the tsb here (thank you thank you). Had my son bring it in and they said no problem but they'd have to order the part but that wasn't my problem....it seemed a piece of paper had fallen behind the glove compartment and we blocking the return. So my son returned and I said - okay I'll give it a shot. Well the air is colder but the fluctuation is still there and I also find that it takes sooooooooo long to cool down after sitting in the sun for awhile. If I had any complaint at all about my RX-8 - that would be it but it pales in comparison to how much I love this car.

MrWigggles

I just wanted to add my observations now that I got my a/c amplifier installed.

The system works a lot better. Still cycles but gets the car roughly 5 degrees F colder (only a guess). I can now drive the car to work without sweating.

For those who feel it takes the car a long time to cool down after being in the sun, that hasn't really improved with the new A/C amp; however, the best way to get it to cool down faster is to run the idle higher than normal and stay in lower gears thus keeping the RPM's up. This work with most cars but the RX-8 goes to 4K+ RPMs easy while with most other cars you are putting a little more stress on them.

At 4K+ RPMs the air will get cooler a lot faster, once the temp in the car is the way you want it, start driving normal again.

-Mr. Wigggles

Ps. My guess is that the A/C compressor is overgeared per se in its design to handle the RX-8's 9K redline. With the car idling at 900 or less RPM's that is simply too few turns on the compressor. Just a hunch.

DRx

My dealer told me that when a customer comes in for any service they enter your VIN into the computer and in turn, their program checks your current flash and will recommend an ECU upgrade if one is available (if they have updated software that is). If it's available, they just do it.

It probably varies from shop to shop, but that's how my dealer does it.

meladdin

I took my car in and told them about the AC not getting cold enough. I even brought in the TSB. Then they tell me my AC air temp is at 42 degrees and does notneed fixing at that temperature. Has anyone else run into this explanation? Since they have the means to actually measure the air coldness, I don't know what to do.

zoom44

some will do that others wont. But and let me make this very clear, ALL dealers are REQUIRED by MSP04 to update the pcm to the M calibration of ALL cars including DEALER INVENTORY and customer cars that fall within the specified VIn range or were built before MARCH 12th. even if the car has no symptoms as described in the bulletin. period. if they say no have them call the tech line in front of you. if they refuse get on the phone to Mazda customer service tell them what is going on and have them CALL THE DEALER. basically if it shows up when they input you VIN under warrenty work that needs to be done THEY HAVE TO DO IT! NO QUESTIONS ASKED!

sorry for the rant it just really annoys me that some dealers are not doing this because they are for some reason not informed and that some may still be be refusing to follow the instructions of the Bulletin.

on the ac thing they need to see that the AC cycles from cold air to "cool" or warm air for a few seconds. "not cold enough" is not really the complaint the ac amplifier TSB addresses. besides the amplifiers are still on backorder until late august i think it is now so they cant fix it even if they wanted to.

MrWigggles

melladin,

Does your car qualify for the TSB? It is only cars with certain build dates that qualify.

Nevermind, it appears that you bought in August 2003 and live in the Northwest.

Do you really need the amplifier fixed? When it was 80 degrees this spring I didn't really need it.

The new amplifier will run your car compressor harder. You might lose maybe one MPG or so. Nothing comes for free.

-Mr. Wigggles

RosenthalMazda

Updated this morning:

http://www.finishlineperformance.com...ocs/index.html

Or a direct link:

http://www.finishlineperformance.com...09-028-04.html

MPG > HP

[QUOTE=RosenthalMazda]Updated this morning:

http://www.finishlineperformance.com...ocs/index.html

QUOTE]
This is interesting. I wonder if it could be the cause of my right rear taillight popping out of it's socket and resting in the lens bottom. After paying $30 to the dealer to have the lens unit removed and the bulb shaken out and reinstalled, I noticed it pop out again with a sharp "bing!!!" when I closed the trunk just a few days later. I was thinking that the bulb socket was at fault and needed an entire wiring loom, but maybe this TSB will prevent it from reoccuring.

P.S. I only learned of the bulb being out the first time after being followed by a friend, some 9 months and 23k miles after purchase. For all I know, it could have popped out during my first month of owenership.

zoom44

a new TSB has been issued for a rattle in the driver's side airbag. anyone have this particular rattle?

rx8cited

Modified 08.26.2004 version Tire Pressure Monitoring System Service Tips TSB posted several days ago.

Differences that I picked out vs 12.01.2003 version:
1) Page 2, added Tire Pressure Adjustment section.
2) Page 6, WARNING added that aftermarket wheels must be designed to accept TPMS sensors. Also FWIW warning states that TPMS system should not be disabled and warns of potential lawsuits that my result due to tire failure if TPMS disabled (please don't shoot the messenger ).

rx8cited

RosenthalMazda

Two new ones over the weekend just posted.

http://www.finishlineperformance.com...ocs/index.html

Tony Orlando

I wasn't going to complain about my seat dings from the belt, figured they'd be considered "normal wear", but good for Mazda for stepping up on that one.

I wonder what the new part is.....Perhaps a soft material in that area to prevent further scratching?

loco4rx8

We have a similar problem with the seat belts causing some wear on the cloth seats, but I guess they don't consider that worth worrying about.

Smoker

Wow, a TSB for the scratches on the seat backcover as well !!

Kudos for Mazda for taking care of a rather minor issue.

Doctor Bob

Guys-do these scratches originate from the seatbelt buckle hitting the seatback or the belt itself? Seems if one fully and carefully unbuckles and rolls up belt should prevent scratches and chips or this happen while one is driving?

Thanks,

Bob

snap-on

Yes Doc,

The front seat belts swing out and hit the back of the front seat when the rear doors are closed too hard.. At this point the parts are not hard to get.. I just hope they don't run out.

On another note there was a bulletin released yesterday addressing the brake squeek. Dealers are directed to order modified pads for the front brakes.

The parts must be ordered per VIN at this time so be patient.

BTW in a note on the bulletin it says this will be covered for 36/50?

loco4rx8

Thanks, good news on the brake squealing. I need a printout of this to take to the dealer at my next service. Is there one available snap-on? They won't do anything without a printout.

snap-on

Brakes

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04-006/04 2004 RX-8 - SQUEAL NOISE FROM FRONT BRAKES DURING BRAKING
APPLICABLE MODEL(S)/VINS
2004 RX-8 - All models equipped with 18 inch wheels (12.7 inch diameter front discs)

DESCRIPTION
Some vehicles may experience a "squeal" noise from the front brakes when braking. This may be caused by the front brake pad material.

Customers having this concern should have their vehicle repaired using the following repair procedure.

REPAIR PROCEDURE
Verify customer concern.

Replace front brake pads with revised parts. See Workshop Manual section 04 - DISC PAD (FRONT) REPLACEMENT .

Verify repair.

PART(S) INFORMATION

Part Number

Description

Qty.

Notes


F1Y2-33-23Z

Front Pad & Shim Set

1




WARRANTY INFORMATION
NOTE:


This warranty information applies only to verified customer complaints on vehicles eligible for warranty repair. Refer to the SRT microfiche for warranty term information. Warranty terms for this repair have been extended to 36 months from vehicle in-service date or 50,000 accrued miles which ever occurs first.

Additional diagnostic time and rotor machining cannot be claimed for this repair.

Warranty Type

A


Symptom Code

35


Damage Code

9J


Process Number

E04001


Part Number Main Cause

F1Y2-33-23Z


Quantity

1


Operation Number / Labor Hours:

XX729XRX / 0.6 Hrs (Both Sides)




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zoom44

thanks for the post snap-on!
well i hope this solves the brake squeal many are experiencing.
now here's a pdf version for you guys that need to print it out.

snap-on

Yes I'm alive BTW

zoom44

Doctor Bob

Thank God! We that are not mechanically inclined need your sage advice.

Bob

loco4rx8

Great, thanks for the TSB, snap-on and Zoom44!